Thursday, May 9, 2013

Robert Sungenis can help the SSPX with the canonical status issue

Robert Sungenis can play an important role in helping the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) receive canonical status. Since he knows Dignitatis Humanae (DH),Vatican Council II does not contradict the Church's teachings on religious liberty(1).The only problematic issue is other religions and ecumenism , in which just about every one, is using the false premise of the 'visible dead on earth'.


Similarly he could make the liberals accept a Vatican Council II which is traditional.If they did not accept a traditional Vatican Council II, with rational invisible to us baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, they would be in heresy.

Sungenis is a Scripture scholar, intelligent and considered a lay authority. Once he identifies the problem he could bring the Church back on track, from where it theologically left off, in the 1940's with the Boston Heresy, of the Archbishop, Cardinal Richard Cushing.

Presently the SSPX and the traditionalists are on the defensive. He can change all this.-Lionel Andrades

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Bob Sungenis defends a position on religious liberty which was authoritatively condemned by the Catholic Magisterium.

R. Sungenis: “No error here [in Vatican II]. The State is not in control of religion. The Church is. Therefore, the State has no right to say who has the right to perform religious acts. The error is from the Dimond brothers, since they don’t understand the Catholic religion.”

“… the State has no right to say who has the right to perform religious acts”! This is a pure expression of heresy solemnly condemned by the Catholic Church in the Syllabus of Errors, that the State cannot prevent the public expression of false religions. He is too blinded by his pride to see that he lacks a basic understanding of Catholic teaching on the issue. Since he is obstinate, there is no doubt that he has fallen under the condemnations which apply to those who embrace errors condemned in the Syllabus.

Pope Pius IX, Syllabus of Errors, Dec. 8, 1864, # 77: “In this age of ours it is no longer expedient that the Catholic religion should be the only religion of the state, to the exclusion of all other cults whatsoever.” – Condemned. (Denz. 1777)

Here we see that the idea that the State cannot exclude other religions and their right to perform religious acts is condemned. Bob Sungenis obstinately promotes the very thing denounced here in the Syllabus of Errors. He is a heretic against Catholic teaching.

And even though he is an obstinate rejecter of Catholic teaching and doesn’t know what he’s talking about, since he speaks with confidence about what he says (even though it’s completely wrong), a few actually regard this dangerously ignorant heretic as a reputable Catholic apologist. It’s fascinating that, at the end of the debate I’ve been discussing in this article, the moderator, Thomas Droleskey, stated:

“We owe both Mr. [x] and Dr. Sungenis a hearty round of applause for participating in this debate… both are sons of the Catholic Church.”

He used the phrase “sons of the Catholic Church” to describe Sungenis and his opponent. Well, it was Pope Pius IX who infallibly commanded that all the “sons of the Catholic Church” hold the heresy of religious liberty as reprobated and condemned.

Pope Pius IX, Quanta Cura (#’s 3-6), Dec. 8, 1864, ex cathedra: “From which totally false idea of social government they do not fear to foster that erroneous opinion, most fatal in its effects on the Catholic Church and the salvation of souls, called by Our predecessor, Gregory XVI, an insanity, NAMELY, THAT ‘LIBERTY OF CONSCIENCE AND WORSHIP IS EACH MAN’S PERSONAL RIGHT, WHICH OUGHT TO BE LEGALLY PROCLAIMED AND ASSERTED IN EVERY RIGHTLY CONSTITUTED SOCIETY… But while they rashly affirm this, they do not understand and note that they are preaching liberty of perdition… Therefore, BY OUR APOSTOLIC AUTHORITY, WE REPROBATE, PROSCRIBE, AND CONDEMN ALL THE SINGULAR AND EVIL OPINIONS AND DOCTRINES SPECIALLY MENTIONED IN THIS LETTER, AND WILL AND COMMAND THAT THEY BE THOROUGHLY HELD BY ALL THE SONS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AS REPROBATED, PROSCRIBED AND CONDEMNED.” (Denz. 1690;1699)

Sungenis holds the very heresy of religious liberty which Pius IX condemned. Thus, he is definitely NOT A SON OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH! To say that he is, in light of these facts, is to contradict the teaching of Pope Pius IX.(emphasis added)

Robert Sungenis violates Aristotles Principle of Non Contradiction

We do not know of any remnant saved with invincible ignorance. We do not know if there is a single person this year or the last year saved in invincible ignorance.

 The only four clerics in the entire world are schismatic because they assume Vatican Council II is non traditional and interpret it with the false premise
                                    
Robert Sungenis' talks on salvation have become obsolete
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/05/robert-sungenis-talks-on-salvation-have.html

Richard Cushing Error runs through Sungenis' talks

Robert Sungenis has an irrational, non traditional, liberal position position on other religions and ecumenism in Vatican Council II with reference to salvation
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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/04/frjohn-zuhlsdorf-does-not-respond-once.html#links

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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/04/is-lumen-gentium-14-and-lumen-gentium.html#links
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