We do not know of any remnant saved with invincible ignorance. We do not know if there is a single person this year or the last year saved in invincible ignorance.

The only way of salvation, defacto, is the baptism of water. There is no defacto extraordinary or other means

 

We do not know of any remnant saved with invincible ignorance. We do not know if there is a single person this year or the last year saved in invincible ignorance.Being saved in invincible ignorance is only a hypothesis, something we accept in principle, in faith. In reality we do not know if a single such person is saved in 2013 insuch a manner.

Robert Sungenis in one of his video talks on salvation says that there will always be a remnant, persons in invincible ignorance who will be saved and who will be 'an exception' to the dogma.

Yes it is a possibility that a person can be saved in this manner. This can be explained with the terms the Church uses. In the Introduction to Dominus Iesus the words de jure(in principle) and defacto are used. In principle (de jure) it is possible to be saved in invincible ignorance etc but defacto ( in reality) we do not know any such case. So these cases saved in invincible ignorance are not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.These cases are irrelevant to the dogma.For them to be an exception they must be visible. We would personally have to know them.

We know that the ordinary way of salvation is Catholic Faith and the baptism of water (AG 7). We cannot say that the extraordinary way of salvation is invincible ignorance etc without qualifiying the statement. It is common knowledge that a person cannot be given salvatiion without the baptism of water and Catholic Faith.We cannot do it.  This is a possibility only for God. The baptism of water is repeatable.It is visible. Saving in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire is not repeatable or possible for us.

So the only way of salvation, defacto, is the baptism of water. There is no defacto extraordinary means.

Vatican Council II in Ad Gentes 7 is saying  de facto every one needs Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation. AG 7 is placed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the title Outside the Church No Salvation (CCC 846).-Lionel Andrades

 

 

Archbishop Augustine Di Noia, Christopher Ferrara and Jeff Mirus assume there is a type of salvation

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/05/archbishop-augustine-di-noia.html#links

 

Robert Sungenis' talks on salvation have become obsolete

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/05/robert-sungenis-talks-on-salvation-have.html#links