Saturday, September 13, 2014

There are no exisiting cases and you are discussing principles and theology as if they existed in real life.

Fr.R :
No, they don’t imply anything like this. In these texts there are declarations as principles, not as cases. The interpretation of the dogma by Fr. Leonard Feeney is irrelevant. Again and again, the question is not whether there is any exception in “this” year or not…


Lionel:
'In these texts there are declarations as principles, not as cases'
Yes .
However the principles and declarations are based on an irrationality.
When there is no case how can you make principles. If I cannot see any one in 2014 being saved in invinicible ignorance or the baptism of desire what is the purpose of issuing statements and discussing its theology.
There are not exisiting cases and you are discussing principles and theology as if they existed in real life.


Fr.R:
The interpretation of the dogma by Fr. Leonard Feeney is irrelevant

Lionel:
It is generaly believed including at the university at which you teach that the baptism of desire etc are exceptions to the traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney. There is no known case and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 is discussing principles and theology.
 


 Fr.R:
Again and again, the question is not whether there is any exception in “this” year or not…
Lionel:

If the Letter of the Holy Office says in the text that the baptism of desire is an exception to the traditional interpretation of the Church Councils and popes, then it is the Letter which is referring to the exceptions, not just me.
-Lionel Andrades
Every one in 2014 needs the baptism of water for salvation. Do you personally know any exception this year?

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