Every one in 2014 needs the baptism of water for salvation. Do you personally know any exception this year?

Fr.R :Your lecture, inference and interpretation of all these documents is wrong… that’s all!

Lionel:

It is not me making inferences.

I have quoted you the exact text. This is the text you have used to teach Catholic students and seminarians.Don't you imply that the dead are visible and and are exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma by Fr.Leonard Feeney ?

For example this is the text:

Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of
Christ on earth.-Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Lionel:

We do not know any case of someone 'knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff,...'. In 2014 this is irrelevant. Every one in 2014 needs the baptism of water for salvation. Do you personally know any exception this year?

In His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects, necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's final end, not by intrinsic necessity, but only by divine institution, can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing. -Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Lionel:

Again the Letter of the Holy Office assumes that those saved with 'only desire and longing' are physically visible on earth to be exceptions to the traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney. Where are these cases in 2014?.

However, this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God. -Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Lionel:

If a person is saved in invincible ignorance it will be known only to God. This is something theoretical for us, hypothetical. Does not the Letter of the Holy Office assume that a hypothetical case is a de facto exception?.A theoretical case is a subsititute for all needing the baptism of water for salvation in 1949?. Is this not being taught at the...(university and seminary where you teach)?-Lionel Andrades

 

 

This is an intellectual, philosophical observation with which you have to agree with me, being a good Catholic

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/this-is-intellectual-philosophical.html

 

September 13, 2014

What a mess !

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/what-mess.html