FOR THE SSPX PRIESTS IN ITALY THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO 'THE ORDINARY MEANS OF SALVATION' AND 'FAITH AND BAPTISM' FOR ALL

SSPX priests in Italy contradict USCCB and Conference of Catholic Bishops of England and Wales.

If there were known cases of persons saved in invincible ignorance etc then there could be exceptions to the traditional teaching on other religions and ecumenism.

There are no physically visible exceptions in Heaven or on earth,of those saved.So for the SSPX priests in Italy there are no physically visible exceptions to 'the ordinary means of salvation' (Redemptoris Missio 55). Neither are there such exceptions to Vatican Council II.(Ad Gentes 7).

So when a Catholic religious says that the Church is the ordinary means of salvation' except for those in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire -it is not rational.It usually means he considers the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance as explicitly known in the present times i.e people in Heaven who are visible to us on earth.

This is  mixing up what is accepted hypothetically in faith, in theory for something which is seen in reality, as a fact, real and concrete.

Since the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are only possibilities for us, they being known only to God,unknown to us in fact, in reality, they cannot be exceptions to 'the ordinary means of salvation' or to all needing 'faith and baptism'(AG 7) for salvation.

For the SSPX priests in Albano,Italy the dead are not visible to us on earth.So there are no exceptions mentioned in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. We cannot see the dead men walking in invincible ignorance etc who could be visible exceptions.

SSPX PRIESTS CONTRADICT USCCB

The SSPX priests are contradicting the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) decision on Fr.Peter Phan . The USCCB Doctrinal Committee said that the Church was necessary for salvation and every one needs to be a member of the Church for salvation except for those in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire. Why say except? Can the USCCB Doctrinal Committee members see these cases  physically on earth ?

CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS OF ENGLAND AND WALES

Similarly the website of the Conference of Catholic Bishops of England and Wales says there could be non Catholics saved with the 'seeds of the Word'.They are implying that these are exceptions to the ordinary means of salvation, which are visible to us physically, in 2013.-Lionel Andrades

Canonical status for SSPX priests in Italy: They can interpret the Council without the dead-saved being visible premise
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/02/canonical-status-for-sspx-priests-in.html#links


Bishop Charles Morerod indicates the magisterium made a mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office: the dead can be physically seen
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/02/bishop-charles-morerod-indicates.html#links


Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith cannot fault the Society of St.Pius X for 'rejecting Vatican Council II'
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/02/congregation-for-doctrine-of-faith.html#links