Wednesday, March 7, 2018

It's official : the present Magisterium is in schism doctrinally and they admit it in public

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POPE BENEDICT CONFIRMS SCHISM
Pope Benedict confirmed this schism in March 2016 when he said in public that EENS for him, was  no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century. There was 'a development' with Vatican Council II for him.He questioned the need for Mission since for him there was known salvation outside the Church and this was mentioned in Vatican Council II for him.
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CARDINAL LADARIA CONFIRMS SCHISM
Then on March 1,2018, two years after the popes schismatic statement, Cardinal Luiz Ladaria at the Press Conference on Placuito Dei confirmed that the Catholic Church no more claims superiority and exclusiveness in salvation, as in the past.He cited Lumen Gentium 8  as an exception  to EENS.Since for him it refers not to a hypothetical case but known people saved outside the Church in the present times.This was his take on LG 8 and definitely not mine.

OFFICIAL SCHISM ON DOCTRINE MADE PUBLIC BY THEM
This is public schism with the popes and Church Councils of the past. Pope Benedict and Cardinal Ladaria could have interpreted Vatican Council II as I do. Then there would not be a rupture with Tradition.They chose not to do so even though there are so many reports on line explaining this error which can be avoided.
It is really the present Magisterium which is in schism and the doctrinal proof is there on line.

Here is the proof. It can be seen with the following three examples.Cardinal Ladaria , when he was Father Luiz Ladaria s.j, interpreted invisible and unknown cases as being known and visible exceptoins to the exclusivist e ecclesiocentrism of the past. This was approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger.This can be seen in the International Theological Commission' s papers, Christianity and the World Religions(1997),  and The Hope of Salvation for Infants Who Die Without Being Baptised,Internaional Theological Commission(2007).

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10. Exclusivist ecclesiocentrism—the fruit of a specific theological system or of a mistaken understanding of the phrase extra ecclesiam nulla salus—is no longer defended by Catholic theologians after the clear statements of Pius XII and Vatican Council II on the possibility of salvation for those who do not belong visibly to the Church (cf, e.g., LG 16; GS 22).-International Theological Commission, Christianity and the World Religions 1997. President : Father Luiz Ladaria s.j 
 http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_cti_1997_cristianesimo-religioni_en.html

MARCH 24, 2012

VATICAN'S INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION MAKES AN ERROR IN ITS POSITION PAPER CHRISTIANITY AND THE WORLD RELIGIONS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/vaticans-international-theological.html#links
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41. The semina verbi, "seeds of the word", can be found outside the limits of the visible Church and specifically in the different religions; this motif is frequently combined with that of the light which enlightens all men and with that of the preparation for the Gospel (AG 11, 15; LG 16, 17; NA 2; Redemptoris missio, 56).-Christianity and the World Religions, International Theological Commission.
MARCH 26, 2012
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION ASSUMES ‘SEEDS OF THE WORD’ (VATICAN COUNCIL II ) IN OTHER RELIGIONS ARE KNOWN TO US AND THIS IS AN EXPLICIT EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/international-theological-commission.html#links

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59. The Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston (1949) offers further specifications. “To gain eternal salvation, it is not always required that a person be incorporated in reality (reapse) as a member of the Church, but it is necessary that one belong to it at least in desire and longing (voto et desiderio). It is not always necessary that this desire be explicit as it is with catechumens.-The Hope of Salvation for Infants Who Die Without Being Baptised,Internaional Theological Commission(2007)
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070419_un-baptised-infants_en.html


This is public schism but it is not known to Catholics at large because of the following confusion.
1. It is assumed by most people that there are known people in the present times (1965-2018) who are saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and instead with the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance(I.I) etc.
2.They assume that the Magisterium was correct and Fr. Leonard Feeney was wrong since the BOD, BOB and I.I  are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).In other words they know particular people saved with BOD, BOB and I.I.This is irrational and not clear thinking but this is the common way of thinking on this subject.
3.They assume that when the popes referred to BOD,BOB and I.I (Mystici Corporis, Catechisms of Trent,Pius X etc) it was to known people at that time saved outside the Church.Someone saw St.Emerentiana and St.Victor in Heaven without the baptism of water.Again this is irrational No one could have physically seen St.Emerentiana for example in Heaven.This is important. Since for there to be an exception to all needing to be members of the Church for salvation there has to be someone alive, some one who is visible and is saved outside the Church.An invisible person obviously cannot be an exception to EENS.
So a probability or possibility in the past cannot be an exceptioin to EENS in 2018. Again this would be irrational reasoning.
4.They presume that the Magisterium cannot make a mistake on faith and morals.The Magisterium did make a mistake when it accepted the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office.This Letter to the Archbishop of Boston confused hypothetical cases as being objective exceptions to traditional EENS.
5.They assume that the Holy Spirit guides the Church to teach that there are known cases of BOD,BOB and I.I.This is not true.Since in the 16th century for example, the Magisterium and missionaries knew that there were no known exceptions EENS. We can also read this in the statements of the popes and the saints, like St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine who affirmed the 'stict intepretation' of outside the Church there is no salvation.
So it was sadly normal for everyone, when Cardinal Ladaria, made a mistake at the Press Conference on Placuit Deo(March 1,2018).He told the lady journalist from the Associated Press that Lumen Gentium 8(subsist it in/ elements of sanctification and truth in other religions) was an exception to the old teaching on the Catholic Church having the superiority and exclusiveness of salvation.

No one corrected Cardinal Ladaria.No one told him that this was schism.He had a choice.











 He could have re-interpreted Lumen Gentium 8 as just referring to a hypothetical case, an invisible person in the present times.Then there would be no rupture with the past.
-Lionel Andrades

MARCH 7, 2018


I am the only Catholic pointing out this general schism, which is a like a doctrinal epidemic in the Church.I do not use the false premise and so am schism-free.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/i-am-only-catholic-pointing-out-this.html


FEBRUARY 26, 2018
When you read the text of Vatican Council II do not read the text as being for and against extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). This would mean you are using the false premise

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/when-you-read-text-of-vatican-council.html


MARCH 4, 2018

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If Cardinal Luiz Ladaria s.j had used the For and Neutral to EENS approach Lumen Gentium 8 would not be a rupture with the old teaching on the superiority and exclusiveness of salvation in the Catholic Church

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/if-cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-had-used.html


MARCH 4, 2018


Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.j has duped Catholic traditionalist bloggers and all of them are still clueless.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-has-duped.html

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