Tuesday, February 20, 2018

Michael Voris is not saying that all Muslims and Jews in Detroit,Michigan are on the way to Hell unless they convert into the Catholic Church according to Vatican Council II(AG 7) and other magisterial documents interpreted with Feeneyite theology.

Michael Voris is not saying that all Muslims and Jews in Detroit,Michigan are on the way to Hell unless they convert into the Catholic Church  according to Vatican Council II(AG 7) and other magisterial documents interpreted with Feeneyite theology.He is not magisterial on this issue and is a good moderate Catholic for me.For him every one does not need to be a card carrying member of the Church.So he rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and is not a Feeneyite. He is a rupture with the magisterium in the 16th century.
For him possibly there could be someone who repents at the lost moment, as the liberals say, and so enters the Church and this would be known to Michael  and so would be an explicit exception to EENS. Sounds rational for you? Not for me. I cannot know any such person.
He does not affirm the dogma EENS since the Jewish Left could repeat the familiar line, which all Catholics are expected to repeat, to escape intimidation, that is, 'Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for holding the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS'.
So now Church Militant TV is generally approved  since they interpret Vatican Council II without Feeneyite EENS and they do not reject the Council like the SSPX which also interprets Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS.
So for the discerning Left Michael Voris is a liberal on EENS his theology is Cushingism which is approved by the Left.
Since invisible baptism of desire is  a visible exception to EENS, he affirms the New Theology.At Holy Mass all CMTV Staff Members understand and accept only the new ecclesiology.The new ecclesiology is created by assuming invisible people are visible and they have been saved without the baptism of water, as if some one saw them in Heaven and even knows their names.
I affirm the baptism of desire but it is hypothetical for me and so I can also affirm the strict interpretation of EENS.It is not either-or for me.
So I can say all Jews and Muslims, and other non Catholics. in Detroit ,where CMTV is situated, need to enter the Church as members for salvation and there are no exceptions.Outside the Church there is no salvation(Vatican Council II,AG 7).Since I am using Feeneyite theology LG 16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are not visible or known in personal cases.So they are not relevant or exceptions to EENS for me. Since I am affirming Vatican Council II and also not rejecting EENS I am following the magisterial documents of the Church in harmony with the past Magisterium of the Church which was also Feeneyite.
CMTV and the two popes and the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith accept these same documents but use Cushingism as a theology. So there has to be a rupture with the past Magisterium of the Church. This is schism.
They have created a doctrinal mess with their innovation ( invisible people who are now in Heaven are visible on earth).
So I say based on the teachings of the Church, after Vatican Council II, that all non Catholics in Detroit  are on the way to Hell. I say this based upon Magisterial teachings interpreted with Feeneyite theology.I am not a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II(Cushingite) and who does not know about Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) e.g Bishop Bernard Fellay, Bishop Donald Sanborn etc.
I am not a conservative Catholic who accepts Vatican Council II and EENS but interprets them with Cushingite theology.This creates a break with Tradition for Michael Voris, Karl Keating, Cardinal Raymond Burke, Bishop Athanasius Schneider etc.
Neither am I a liberal who affirms Vatican Council II and EENS Cushingite and criticizes the SSPX for not affirming Vatican Council II Cushingite like them e.g Archbishop Guido Pozzo, Archbishop Augustine Di Noia,cardinals Koch and Kasper etc.-Lionel Andrades



FEBRUARY 20, 2018


Mic’d Up—Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus with Christine Niles was finally based on Cushingite theology

Image result for Photos Christine Niles Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/micd-upextra-ecclesiam-nulla-salus-with.html

FEBRUARY 20, 2018


For me CMTV is in heresy. They are in schism with the past Magisterium of the Church as are our present two popes.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/for-me-cmtv-is-in-heresy-they-are-in.html




Mic’d Up—Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus with Christine Niles was finally based on Cushingite theology

Image result for Photos Christine Niles Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
Mic’d Up—Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus with Christine Niles

https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/micd-up-extra-ecclesiam-nulla-salus

Mic’d Up—Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus with Christine Niles was finally based on  Cushingite theology since the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 was accepted and quoted.
So it was outside the Church there is no salvation but with the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance being visible exceptions to traaditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
This was also the irrational theology of Charles Coulombe.
This must have been pleasing to the Left and the Archbishop of Detroit.
It was a good program in the sense that Christine quoted the dogma EENS and mentioned that it was not being affirmed today.But she too accepted BOD, BOB and I.I as being exceptions to EENS. This contradicts Vatican Council II interpreted with Feeneyism.This would not be the teaching of the Church today interpreted with rational Feeneyism as a theology.
-Lionel Andrades

February 20, 2018
For me CMTV is in heresy. They are in schism with the past Magisterium of the Church as are our present two popes. http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/for-me-cmtv-is-in-heresy-they-are-in.html



SEPTEMBER 4, 2017

Christine Niles program on Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus needs a follow up : irrational Wikipedia reports, SSPX canonical status , ecclesiology of Tridentine Rite Mass needs to be discussed

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/christine-niles-program-on-extra.html




OCTOBER 21, 2017



With one small false premise which Christine Niles accepts in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 Vatican Council II has the hermeneutic of rupture for her http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/with-one-small-false-premise-which.html


Image result for Photos Christine Niles Mic'e Up

Christine Niles uses the false premise to interpret magisterial documents

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/christine-niles-uses-false-premise-to.html




JUNE 15, 2015



Christine Niles interviews Brother Andre Marie MICM : is Vatican Council II Feeneyite ? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/06/christine-niles-interviews-brother.html




For me CMTV is in heresy. They are in schism with the past Magisterium of the Church as are our present two popes.

Church Militant TV(CMTV) and I, we both accept the baptism of desire(BOD). For me BOD is only theoretical and hypothetical.
So I affirm the BOD along with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
Can CMTV say the same thing? No.
Since for CMTV, BOD refers to a known person saved outside the Church without the baptism of water.So visible-for-them BOD is an exception to Feeneyite EENS.It is BOD or Feeneyite EENS.Either-or.
But not for me.
I affirm BOD and I know that it cannot be a practical exception to EENS.
We cannot see or meet any one saved with BOD.
So this is the difference between CMTV and me when we both say outside the Church there is no salvation and there are only Catholics in Heaven.
Their understanding of EENS and BOD is different.
Baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) along with Vatican Council II(UR 3, NA 2, LG 8,GS 22 etc),all, refer to hypothetical cases in 2018.
Hypothetical cases do not contradict EENS for me. They are not a rupture with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.
For CMTV,BOD, BOB and I.I  and Vatican Council II's UR 3, NA 3, LG 8, GS 22 etc  are non hypothetical.Concrete cases. Real people in the present times.They refer to  known people saved outside the Church.So this is how they become exceptions to EENS. Vatican Council II becomes a rupture with Tradition.There are exceptions to the past ecclesiology of the Church.
This is the irrational reasoning of the Cushingites.The dogma EENS says all need to enter the Church for salvation and CMTV with their Cushingite theology indicate that  there are exceptions.
So they will not outright say that all non Catholics with no known exceptions in 2018 are oriented to the fires of Hell unless they enter the Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).In other words all non Catholics in 2018 need to be members of the Church and live the traditional teachings of the Catholic Church, for salvation.
It is not possible for them to say this since they interpret EENS, Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the Nicene Creed with Cushingite theology. BOD is an exception to EENS.Invisible people now in Heaven are visible on earth.Non Catholics saved are in two places at the same time, in Heaven and on earth where they are visible to Cushingites.With this false premise they create a hermeneutic of rupture.They violate the Principle of Non Contradiction.
I avoid this premise when I read Magisterial documents.So I also affirm these Church documents but my conclusions are Feeneyite.
For me it is Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) in harmony with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.For them it is Vatican Council II(Cushingite) in a rupture with the past ecclesiology of the Church.
CMTV interprets Vatican Council II like the liberals, the two popes and the SSPX bishops.They affirm this interpretation of Vatican Council II with the SSPX.CMTV accepts the conclusion and the SSPX rejects it.Both use the same reasoning, Cushingite reasoning with the false premise.
For me CMTV is in heresy. They are in schism with the past Magisterium of the Church as are our present two popes.
-Lionel Andrades


 FEBRUARY 19, 2018


I am referring to Feeneyism and Cushingism as explained on my blog.The fault does not lie with Vatican Council II in itself. It depends upon how you interpret the Council, whether you use Cushingism or Feeneyism. Cushingism results in the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-am-referring-to-feeneyism-and.html



FEBRUARY 19, 2018







Catholics maintain the schism of the two popes

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/catholics-maintain-schism-of-two-popes.html








FEBRUARY 19, 2018








As a Catholic I affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite-without the premise) in harmony with EENS(Feeneyite), for me the Nicene Creed simply says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' and not three known baptisms which exclude the baptism of water in the Church

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/then-i-come-to-my-beliefs-as-cathollic.html




FEBRUARY 19, 2018



Bradley Eli at CMTV interprets EENS and Vatican Council II with Cushingism like the present Magisterium : Cushingism is irrational, non traditional, heretical and creates the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/bradley-eli-at-cmtv-interprets-eens-and.html



FEBRUARY 18, 2018






Who is going to challenge Cardinal Cupich and say there is no doctrinal change with Vatican Council ? Not Church Militant TV
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/who-is-going-to-challenge-cardinal.html



 FEBRUARY 18, 2018

There will not be mission for Michael Voris based on the traditional teaching of the Church supported by Vatican Council II and the Catechism(1994) since he chooses Cushingism
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/there-will-not-be-mission-for-michael.html



FEBRUARY 18, 2018

In the old Vortex on Do Non Catholics Go To Hell?, prudent Michael Voris does not want to be called a Feeneyite: uses Cushingite theology
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/in-vortex-on-do-non-catholics-go-to.html



 FEBRUARY 8, 2018



Church Militant TV is interpreting the Nicene Creed, Vatican Council II and EENS with Cushingism and so are a rupture with the past Magisterium of the Church.This is doctrinal chaos.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/church-militant-tv-is-interpreting.html


FEBRUARY 8, 2018


Michael Voris and Church Militant TV are Cushingites like the rest of the Archdiocese of Detroit : they use the New Theology

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/michael-voris-and-church-militant-tv.html





FEBRUARY 18, 2018

You may hope that a particular person outside the Church is finally saved but this is not the same as knowing this in personal cases.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/you-may-hope-that-particular-person.html



FEBRUARY 18, 2018


Now please tell me are you saying that all non Catholics in the world in 2018 are on the way to Hell, with no known exception, unless they enter the Catholic Church with faith and the baptism of water? I say YES.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/now-please-tell-me-are-you-saying-that.html



EBRUARY 18, 2018



Blessed Pope Paul VI who is to be canonized approved a factual error in Vatican Council II and this cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/blessed-pope-paul-vi-who-is-to-be.html



FEBRUARY 16, 2018

The liberal theologians suggest that all do not need to enter the Church since there could be exceptions of BOD, BOB and I.I( as if we could know of any) or someone could be saved at the last moment( as if we could know of someone) http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/the-liberal-theologians-suggest-that.html



FEBRUARY 15, 2018


The baptism of blood could never be an exception to EENS. Since it is known only to God and is a hypothetical case for us. It cannot be seen in the present times to be an exception

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/comment-catholic-dictionary-term.html

FEBRUARY 17, 2018

Would the German bishops go into schism?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/would-german-bishops-go-into-schism.html



FEBRUARY 17, 2018

The two popes and Cardinal Ladaria must be asked to affirm EENS (Feeneyite) and BOD(Feeneyite) and reject EENS(Cushingite) and BOD(Cushingite)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/the-two-popes-and-cardinal-ladaria-must.html




 FEBRUARY 15, 2018

Reinterpret Vatican Council II with these four links
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/reinterpret-vatican-council-ii-with_15.html




FEBRUARY 17, 2018

6- To reinterpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/to-reinterpret-vatican-council-ii-and_17.html



FEBRUARY 16, 2018


The liberal theologians suggest that all do not need to enter the Church since there could be exceptions of BOD, BOB and I.I( as if we could know of any) or someone could be saved at the last moment( as if we could know of someone)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/the-liberal-theologians-suggest-that.html


FEBRUARY 17, 2018







I affirm baptism of desire(BOD) Feeneyite and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) Feeneyite.I do not reject BOD,baptism of blood (BOB)and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) which are always Feeneyite for me.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-affirm-baptism-of-desirebod-feeneyite.html




FEBRUARY 15, 2018



1-5 : To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office (1949) 1-5

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/to-re-interpret-vatican-council-ii-and_82.html



FEBRUARY 13, 2018



When choosing to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism observe the philosophical mistakes in the Council text

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/when-choosing-to-interpret-vatican.html

FEBRUARY 13, 2018

Feeneyism (according to L.A) is also important for the Schools of Evangelisation of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal Movement and for the catechesis done by the Neo Cathechumanal Way of Kiko Arguello
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/feeneyism-according-to-la-is-also.html



FEBRUARY 13, 2018

Bishop Bernard Fellay is a Cushingite like Archbishop Guido Pozzo and Augustine Di Noia. They need to switich to Feeneyism for the reconciliation
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/bishop-bernard-fellay-is-cushingite.html



FEBRUARY 13, 2018

I am a Feeneyite so the Catechisms are Feeneyite for me.Pope Benedict and Card.Ladaria are Cushingites. So the Catechisms are interpreted with Cushingism. Our conclusions are different.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-am-feeneyite-so-catechisms-are.html




FEBRUARY 12, 2018

Similarly for me Vatican Council II is Feeneyite.Now please do not cite LG 16 as an exception. It would be an exception for you since you are a Cushingite.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/similarly-for-me-vatican-council-ii-is.html


FEBRUARY 12, 2018


I am a Feeneyite in my theology and philosophy.So is the Catechisn of Pope Pius X, the Catechism of the Council of Trent and the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994).They are all Feeneyite for me.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-am-feeneyite-in-my-theology-and.html



FEBRUARY 12, 2018




So now there is no doctrinal unity. Why should I say that invisible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I are visible exceptions to EENS and Card.Cushing, Abp. Lefebvre and Pope Pius XII were not in heresy? Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for his orthodoxy.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/so-now-there-is-no-doctrinal-unity-why.html



FEBRUARY 12, 2018



Pope Pius XII, Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria were wrong and Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct : apology from CDF long over due

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/pope-pius-xii-pope-benedict-and.html



 FEBRUARY 12, 2018

Image result for Photo Fr.Leonard Feeney


Vatican(CDF) and Jesuits review the Fr.Leonard Feeney case : How could invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance be visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS?: The Magisterium made a mistake

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/vatican-and-jesuits-review-frleonard.html


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JANuARY 17, 2018

I am a Feeneyite who does not reject Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-am-feeneyite-who-does-not-reject.html

FEBRUARY 17, 2018


I am a Feeneyite who does not reject BOD, BOB and I.I
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-am-feeneyite-who-does-not-reject-bod.html


FEBRUARY 17, 2018
I affirm baptism of desire(BOD) Feeneyite and extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) Feeneyite.I do not reject BOD,baptism of blood (BOB)and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) which are always Feeneyite for me.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/i-affirm-baptism-of-desirebod-feeneyite.html

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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/what-is-feeneyism.html

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