Thursday, December 7, 2017

Pope Benedict in a subtle way with theology, has put an end to traditional mission.Pope Francis does the same bluntly and clearly

Through changing theology Pope Benedict did away with traditional mission.By directly speaking against proclamation and not affirming the dogma EENS,Pope Francis does the same.
Pope Benedict has been protecting this error in the Church since Vatican Council II.Possibilities, theoretical cases are objective exceptions to EENS for him.

Both the popes use the new theology based on known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church. So for them outside the Church there is salvation. Not for me!

Charles A. Coulombe
Charles Coulombe the video indicates does not notice how Pope Benedict in a subtle way with theology, has put an end to traditional mission.Meanwhile Pope Francis does the same by openly criticizing proselytism and calls to affirm a vague belief in Jesus only, without the necessity of membership in the Church for salvation.He calls for evangelizing but only with example.He does not believe in an absolute truth on Hell and the non salvation of non Catholics.Instead he relativises salvation by referring to the supremacy of conscience.
The popes have have approved Catholics and Protestants doing mission together. It is official and not opposed by the Jewish Left rabbis. Without proclamation,theology and doctrines there is no tension in Catholics and other Christians working together, with a vague belief in salvation through Jesus.
Both the popes use the new theology based on known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church. So for them outside the Church there is salvation. Not for me!
Today morning this was the message in the homily by a priest who like Pope Benedict assumes there is known salvation outside the Church.For him too invisible and unknown cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) refer to visible and known people saved outside the Church. With this irrationality they conclude that there is salvation outside the Church.
Now suppose he did not use this irrationality.I do not.Then he would have to say, like me, that Vatican Council II states all need faith and baptism for salvation. So it means, according to Vatican Council II(Ad Gentes 7)  all Jews and Muslims in Rome in 2017 are on the way to Hell at the time of death. Since they die without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.He will not say this.Neither does Pope Benedict and Pope Francis.
So Pope Benedict XVI in March 2016 told us that extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) is no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century since according to Vatican Council II ( with his interpretation) there is salvation outside the Church.As if he would know a particular person.So this spares him from saying all Jews and Muslims in Italy are on the way to Hell with no exceptions.
So he puts an end to the motive for mission. He is not really interested in Mission. It is the same with Pope Francis. He has to use the same invisible- people- are- visible premise to reject traditional EENS .Otherwise he would be saying all non Catholics, Christians included, are on the way to Hell unless they are incorporated into the Catholic Church as members.

By giving the up the Church's necessity for salvation, the Council sparked a "double crisis"









"Double crisis" of Church and Faith


Thus, with the fact that the Second Vatican Council has "definitely" abandoned the belief that there is no salvation for unbaptized, the Church and the faith had fallen into a "double crisis".
"On the one hand it seems to withdraw any motivation a future missionary commitment. Why convince people of accepting the Christian faith, even if they can be saved without it?
But for Christians, the question on the necessity of faith and manner of life was uncertain and problematic. If there are those who can be saved in other ways, it is ultimately not evident why the Christian should be linked to the need of the Christian faith and its morals. But if the faith and salvation are not dependent on each other, the faith is also groundless.
Recently, various attempts have been made ​​to bring to reconciliation the universal need of the Christian faith with the opportunity to save oneself without them."




By giving the up the Church's necessity for salvation, the Council sparked a "double crisis".
No .The Council has not given it up.
It is Pope Benedict who has given it up.
He could have chosen to interpret Vatican Council II with hypothetical cases just being hypothetical then there is no example of 'those who can be saved in other ways'.
'Those who can be saved in other ways' as Pope Benedict says, really refers to theoretical cases.He does not mention this.
Pope Benedict has been protecting this error in the Church since Vatican Council II.Possibilities, theoretical cases are objective exceptions to EENS for him.
Through changing theology Pope Benedict did away with traditional mission.By directly speaking against proclamation and not affirming the dogma EENS,Pope Francis does the same.
It does not change anything for me.Since I avoid the premise which they have to use to create a rupture with EENS and the rest of Tradition.
So for me there is no change in the ecclesiology and exclusivist salvation theology. I can proclaim the faith with doctrine when asked.This is part of 'the testimony of my life'.
I do not have to be like the two popes and the priest who gave the homily, who will keep silent on theology and doctrine since they have changed it with an irrational premise.
They do not want to tell Jews,Muslims,Protestants and Orthodox Christians that they all need to enter the Church as members for salvation(to avoid Hell) and there are no exceptions known to us human beings.This is the false church within the Catholic Church. 

So without the false inference Vatican Council II is in harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by the missionaries in the 16th century.Pope Benedict made a mistake.This is something that Charles Coulombe has not discovered. He does not mention it in the video.-Lionel Andrades


















Suspension and double excommunication these are medals of honour -Fr.Alessandro M.Minutella


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"I am dumbfounded that in Italy, I am still the only one."
Suspension and Double-Excommunication: "These are medals of honor"
"Resist, resist, resist!"
Father Alessandro Maria Minutella is an Italian priest of the Archdiocese of Palermo. Born in 1973 and ordained in 1999, he became known in the past month to English speakers around the world thanks to a Youtube video about resisting Pope Francis and Amoris laetitia. Catholic Family News is happy to present this exclusive interview with Don Minutella, (to our knowledge) the first such interview in English.
CFN: Father Minutella, thank you for your availability. Until a few weeks ago, you were essentially unknown outside of Italy. However on November 16, 2017, you were suddenly and universally introduced to the English-speaking world. A translation of your video, “The Courage of [the] Truth” - itself released on November 9, 2017 on Radio Domina Nostra’s Youtube channel - appeared with the title “Don Minutella and the Pope Francis Regime.” At the end of November, it has over 29,000 views. Can you please introduce yourself: tell us when and where you were born, your date and place of ordination, what were your priestly assignments like?
Don Minutella: Firstly, I would like to thank you for this opening to the English-speaking world (which I was not looking for, so it's decidedly Providential). Certainly the number of views have started to become considerable in your part of the world, but for some time already in Italy, television networks have labelled me a “web star,” specifically due to the number of hits. One sees how Our Lord always loves to reveal His plans using small instruments, in the manner of the Blessed Virgin.
I was born in 1973 in Palermo, the city of a thousand contrasts, known throughout the world only for the Mafia, a multifaceted and multiformed city of a thousand cultures, the masterpiece of the Mediterranean. In the Gospel of John we read how when Nathaniel [Bartholomew] was told by Phillip that the Messiah had come from Nazareth, he responded laconically: “Can anything of good come from Nazareth?” (John 1:46). My formation so far has been truly enriching. I have had as spiritual fathers the blessed martyr, Fr. Giuseppe (Pino) Puglisi [beatified May 2013] and Fr. Gabriele Amorth, SSP, the world-famous exorcist [died September 2016]. I entered the seminary in Palermo in October, 1992 and was ordained there on December 27, 1999, at the hands of Salvatore Cardinal De Giorgi.
I obtained my first doctorate in Systematic Theology in 2002, and a second doctorate in the History of Dogma and Spiritual Theology in 2007, from the Pontifical Gregorian University. I have published different works, one of which (on St. Gregory the Great) was reviewed in L'Osservatore Romano.
And yet, I never had the role of academic teacher (I have always thought this was due to my fierce fidelity to Tradition), while in these eighteen years I was a pastor three times, in three different working-class parishes on the peripheries. These were always full - even during the week - with many souls. When in the videos even speaking of theology, I am able to make myself understood by simple people, it's not without irony that I say one can smell like the sheep on the peripheries of the Church, even in a cassock and with the rosary in hand, without giving in to the excesses of what I call today the “false church.”
CFN: You did not study in a traditionalist seminary, you weren't ordained, for example, for the Society of Saint Pius X or even an Ecclesia Dei community like the Fraternity of Saint Peter or the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest. Would you call yourself a “traditionalist priest”? Do you reject the Second Vatican Council, or the Novus Ordo Mass?
Don Minutella: I have great respect and gratitude for the groups you mentioned. As a student in Rome I was able to visit one of these traditionalist groups, savoring their love for the ancient liturgy, decorum, the spirit of authentic fidelity to sound doctrine. In particular, I was able to keep in contact with the Institute of Christ the King, Sovereign Priest founded by Monsignor [Gilles] Wach, a priest who emits Catholic authenticity.
If today I find myself, let's say persecuted, it is because I have indeed proven to be a traditionalist priest. Not only because I celebrate the Old Rite daily, but I would say more deeply in the spirit of Tradition: Eucharistic worship, Marian devotion, priestly spirituality, and -on a wholly-theological level - firm opposition to pastoral and doctrinal novelties.
In truth, I know that I am considered a bit excessive in tone (Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schneider have asked me to use greater moderation!), yet I have found full solidarity and support from the traditionalist world, regarding [my message's] content. The question you asked me merits a deep reflection, however, briefly, I'll tell you what I think. Vatican II created not a few ambiguities, which in the current progressivist establishment are “straddled,” [in order to] to change the sound Catholic spirit. In my book which was just published (and which will be translated into English), called The false church and its destiny, I stress above all the liturgical and ecumenical question; I hold that in the future (when our prayers and sacrifices will obtain for us a Pope who will be Catholic again), a correction of the Council - which was pastoral and not dogmatic - will have to be made, and I believe the whole Church will return to the Old Rite.
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https://www.catholicfamilynews.org/blog/2017/12/5/resist-resist-resist-cfn-exclusive-interview-minutella

Charles Coulombe could not see that Pope Benedict was trying to protect his error.

Pope Benedict said (Video 2:35) 'If there is salvation outside the Church then there is no need to evangelize and there is no need to be a Catholic, that is the logical conclusion,the path speculative theology has taken into the Church...and this has become the view of everybody since Vatican Council II.'-Charles Coulombe 1
By giving the up the Church's necessity for salvation, the Council sparked a "double crisis"


"Double crisis" of Church and Faith

Thus, with the fact that the Second Vatican Council has "definitely" abandoned the belief that there is no salvation for unbaptized, the Church and the faith had fallen into a "double crisis".
"On the one hand it seems to withdraw any motivation a future missionary commitment. Why convince people of accepting the Christian faith, even if they can be saved without it?
But for Christians, the question on the necessity of faith and manner of life was uncertain and problematic. If there are those who can be saved in other ways, it is ultimately not evident why the Christian should be linked to the need of the Christian faith and its morals. But if the faith and salvation are not dependent on each other, the faith is also groundless.
Recently, various attempts have been made ​​to bring to reconciliation the universal need of the Christian faith with the opportunity to save oneself without them."
http://eponymousflower.blogspot.it/2016/03/pope-benedict-breaks-silence-and.html

The Secret is out.Pope Benedict had made a theological mistake at Vatican Council II and spent the rest of his life trying to protect it as the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and then as Pope Benedict XVI.This report above on March 16,2016 could have been his last attempt to prop his and Rahner's new theology.It was based upon visible for us baptism of desire.
Charles Coulombe has not caught on.Since Coulombe rejects the baptism of desire theologically but infers, when reading Vatican Council II, that the baptism of desire refers to physically visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is also the reasoning of Pope Benedict and the liberal theologians.
So Charles Coulombe could not see that Pope Benedict was trying to protect his error.
If Pope Benedict wanted, he could have interpreted Vatican Council II and EENS like me. He could have said that there are no physically known,objectively visible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance.These hypothetical cases are not objective. So they are not exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.
Similarly LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2,GS 22 etc are also not physically visible people, saved outside the Church. So being invisible cases, hypothetical and theoretical cases for us, they are not exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. Vatican Council II does not state that there is known salvation outside the Church.The inference has to be made. This inference is false.
So without this false inference Vatican Council II is in harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by the missionaries in the 16th century.Pope Benedict made a mistake.-Lionel Andrades

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The Truth about Fr. Feeney (SPECIAL UNCUT EDITION)

No difference between Charles Coulombe,Abp.Lefebvre,Fr.Karl Rahner and Card.Muller

Charles A. Coulombe
Charles Coulombe does not realize that physically there are no baptism of desire (BOD) cases and  so he misinterprets Vatican Council II.Only theologically he rejects BOD with reference to extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).But he interprets LG 16, LG 14, UR 3 etc as referring to physically visible cases. He infers that they are non Catholics saved outside the Church who are seen in the flesh.So he concludes Vatican Council II is a rupture with EENS and so rejects it.It is a rupture with Tradition( Syllabus of Errors etc) for him.

So there is no difference between him, Archbishop Lefebvre, Fr.Karl Rahner and Cardinal Muller they all use the invisible BOD are visible exceptions to EENS reasoning.
-Lionel Andrades

DECEMBER 6, 2017


Charles Coulombe, Brother Andre Marie MICM and Brother Thomas Augustine MICM have been discussing the baptism of desire with reference to justification and salvation when there are no physically visible cases

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/charles-coulumbe-brother-andre-marie.html


 DECEMBER 6, 2017


Charles Coulombe discusses the baptism of desire as if there are known cases in our reality

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/charles-coulombe-discusses-baptism-of.html

DECEMBER 6, 2017

Charles Coulombe could have said that there are no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/charles-coulombe-could-have-said-that.html


http://catholicism.org/author/coulombe