Sunday, October 29, 2017

Dr.Robert Fastiggi cannot respond with the usual accusations

It's interesting.Dr.Robert Fastiggi cannot accuse me of being in schism or in sedevacantism and I am saying that he is in heresy.
He cannot accuse me of denying any of the magisterial documents of the Church and yet I say that I do not interpret magisterial documents like he does.
He cannot of course accuse me of rejecting Vatican Council II instead it is I who make the accusation against him.
He cannot accuse me of rejecting the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the Council of Florence.Instead it is I who make the accusation against me.
He can accuse me of not theologically following the present two popes.This would be true since the two popes  are not following the popes of the past and are in schism.
To not follow a theology is  a sin? Then it would be a sin for him.Since it is he who teaches a new theology based on a nonsenical premise which violates the Principle of Non Contradiction and which never was part of the deposit of the faith. The two popes do the same.
He has not responded to these blog posts which I have e-mailed him.
Even if he responds what is he going to say? Will he say that the Holy Spirit guides this magisterium to teach that there are known people saved outside the Church in the past and they are objective exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in the present times? So every one does not need to enter the Church in 2017.
Would this be a teaching inspired by the Holy Spirit?
Image result for Photos Archbishop of Detroit with Rector of the seminary
But the reality is that as a professor of theology in the Archdiocese of Detroit he cannot state that all non Catholics with no exception need to be formal members of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell? 
So he is stuck.
He cannot honestly accuse me of being in schism as he did with Bishop Sanborn who affirmed EENS and was saying every non Catholic in Detroit are hell-bound unless they convert formally into the Church to save their soul.
At the same time he cannot rationally say that he knows someone in Detroit who is a practical exception to the dogma EENS as it is held by Bishop Donald Sanborn.
Bishop Sanborn accused him of being in heresy,like the rest of the Church, for discarding the ecumenism of return with the new ecumenism of non return.There was no denial from Dr.Fastiggi.I think this point went above his head.
He could only fall back on saying the bishop was in schism and this was a mortal sin. Now I am saying the same thing as the good bishop.But he cannot shrug me off so easily.I am not a sede.
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I accept the two popes. Pope Francis is my pope in manifest mortal sin and is automatically excommunicated. Like Fastiggi he does not affirm the Nicene Creed, EENS , Vatican Council II and the Catechisms without the irrational premise and so his conclusions are not traditional and Catholic.It is the same with Pope Benedict.They need to go for Confession and affirm de fide teachings of the Church which are obligatory for all of us.
Of course all this is not permanent and fixed. Both the popes can issue a clarification and affirm Catholic doctrine without the irrational premise which creates heresy, and all will be well again.Theologically they are back on an even keel.
I write all this not just to criticize any one but so that they acknowledge their error and make the correction.
Image result for Photos Ralph Martin Sacred Heart
But I ask myself how is Ralph Martin and Robert Fastiggi going to make the correction at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary Detroit? 
Is it possible in the future that they will be allowed to interpret all magisterial documents without the invisible people are visible premise and so affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus like Bishop Donald Sanborn?
For now, here I am a Catholic, a good Catholic who is not a traditionalist like the SSPX priests who correctly reject Vatican Council II (with the premise) but do not affirm the Council interpreted without the irrational premise,as I do.
Then I do not say that I reject the pope since the pope is in heresy.Since for me most Catholics are in innocent heresy due to ignorantly following these two popes.
For now while I affirm Vatican Council II with hypothetical cases just being hypothetical, which makes the Council traditional and exclusive on salvation Dr. Robert Fastiggi is unable to correct me or even reply.It is the same with the Rector at Sacred Heart, Detroit.
-Lionel Andrades




OCTOBER 29, 2017


The New Evangelisation of the two popes is based on the Letter of the Holy Office, lay movements must observe. It is flawed.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/the-new-evangelisation-of-two-popes-is.html


OCTOBER 28, 2017


Faculty at Sacred Heart Major Seminary agree there are no known cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance in 2017

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/faculty-at-sacred-heart-major-seminary.html


OCTOBER 28, 2017

There is an in principle error in the text of Vatican Council II and Dr.Robert Fastiggi is not aware of it

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/there-is-in-principle-error-in-text-of.html


OCTOBER 25, 2017


Heresy before Vatican II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/heresy-before-vatican-ii.html

OCTOBER 25, 2017


Protocol 122/49 was written in specific contradistinction to Fr. Feeney’s statement that all who die as non-Catholics are lost

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/protocol-12249-was-written-in-specific.html


OCTOBER 25, 2017


If Pope Pius XII had come to the defense of Father Feeney in the early 1950’s, and reasserted that all who die as non-Catholics are lost (and therefore must be converted), there would never have been a Vatican II.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/if-pope-pius-xii-had-come-to-defense-of.html




The New Evangelisation of the two popes is based on the Letter of the Holy Office, lay movements must observe. It is flawed.

Dr.Robert Fastiggi overlooks the objective error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and the injustice done to the St.Benedict Center and Fr. Leonard Feeney and he calls it 'a development of doctrine'.The same players at Boston in 1949 were there at Vatican Council II.They repeated the irrational reasoning  and  he has only praise.He  cannot say that the popes and cardinals at Vatican Council II mistook imaginary people as being real.They then used this opportunity to  change doctrine and theology in the Church.The present two popes, have accepted the factual mistake.But Fastiggi will not say it.Even the faculty at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary,Detroit, where he teaches, all agree.There are no known cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance in 2017. None.But he will not say it.
There were none last year.So when Pope Benedict said EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century, there were none.So there could be no 'development of doctrine 'for me with Vatican Council II ( premise-free)
The professors and Rector in Detroit know that there  were no known cases of the baptism of desire, blood and being saved in invincible ignorance in 2015,2014,2013,2011 and the years earlier.None.
So how can there be  practical exceptions to Feeneyite EENS in Vatican Council II and how can there be a development of doctrine? Fastiggi is mixing up LG 16, UR 3 etc as referring to known people.He infers that these known people are saved outside the Church.But these are really hypothetical and theoretical references?!
In my e-mail correspondence with the faculty at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary over the last few months,from what they say and do not, it is clear that they all agree on the obvious.None of them personally knows of any exception to the dogma EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.
So Vatican Council II supports Feeneyite EENS with Ad Gentes saying all need faith and baptism for salvation.It does not contradict the 16th century missionaries, with invisible cases of LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, GS 22 etc allegedly being visible.Invisible people cannot be practical exceptions to EENS in 2017.
If one interprets Vatican Council II with Feeneyite EENS( no visible exceptions) then there is no development of doctrine.But if one interprets EENS according to the Holy Office(CDF) in 1949 then there is a new theology and new doctrines.Fastiggi is supporting this innovation in the video.
I avoid the magisterial mistake. Like Dr. Fastiggi I can attend Holy Mass in English but unlike him I can affirm 'the rigorist interpretation' of the dogma EENS.This is what they did at the 16th century Latin Mass.So for me there can be no change in ecclesiology.I do not have to attend the Tridentine Rite Mass to say all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews and Muslims in Detroit, and the rest of the world in 2017, are on the way to Hell, with no known exceptions.I attend Mass in Italian and know(because the Church teaches it through Vatican Council II) that all non Catholics need to  enter the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism' for salvation(Ad Gentes 7).So this year most people are oriented to the fires of Hell since they have died without faith and baptism.
I do not have to go into sedevacantism or reject Vatican Council II like the SSPX. I remain in the Church and affirm the old exclusivist ecclesiology on salvation.Neither do I have to be a liberal like Fastiggi who has to interpret Vatican Council II with fantasy theology and philosophical gymnastics like imaginary people being non imaginary and we can see people in Heaven and on earth at the same time, contradicting the Principle of Non Contradiction.I do not have to reject Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition(EENS,Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return etc) as Fastiggi does and doesn't know when he is in heresy.
I am also free, not being encumbered with the premise, to say that Pope  Benedict was in heresy last March 2016,as is Pope Francis and Dr. Fastiggi today, when they reject the dogma EENS( premise free) and Vatican Council II ( premise free), which I affirm as a good Catholic. I will not create new doctrines with a false premise and then pretend it is the deposit of the faith.
It is interesting- Catholic students and seminarians at Detroit are taught that there are visible and known exceptions, past and present, to the dogma EENS, while the faculty believe and know that  there are no such cases.The students are not told the truth.If they knew they would agree with the obvious.Church Militant TV in Detroit could ask them about it.Michael Voris once asked Fr. Jonathan Morris, former Legion of Christ priest, to let us know who today does not need to enter the Church for salvation ? Fr. Morris of course was using the Holy Office 1949, visible-exceptions theology.
For the Catholic students to get an academic degree at Detroit they too chant the socialist, communist, Masonic slogans approved by the Jewish Left rabbis, for the Catholic Church.They must allow the heresy to spread and remain like at the time of Arius.
I think it is important now, for members of the Focolares, Neo Catehumenale Way, Catholic Charismatic Renewals and other lay movements, to understand all this.They are  free to evangelize and do mission like the missionaries in the 16th century.Vatican Council II is Feeneyite.It means all the pagans in the Americas before Columbus, were on the way to Hell before the missionaries went there.All the natives in the Portughese colony of Goa were lost before St. Francis Xavier went there. Invincible ignorance is not the norm but needing faith and baptism is.This point went pass Fastiggi it can be seen on the video.The Jesuits in the 16th century had it right.
Even the Jews in the Old Testament times, like Abraham and Moses had to wait for the Resurrection before they could go to Heaven.
Today all non Catholic-Christians, according to Vatican Council II (AG 7),need Catholic faith to avoid the fires of Hell.They need the Sacraments and the faith and moral teachings of the Catholic Church.All Protestants, Pentecostals and Orthodox Christians are oriented to Hell unless they enter the Catholic Church as members.If there are exceptions it would be known only to God.For Fastiggi, the exceptions are the rule and they are known to God alone.So like Bishop Barron he could wrongly say that we have a reasonable hope that most men are saved.
Being a Christian, like a Catholic in mortal, does not necessarily mean one is saved.All non Catholic Christians need to convert into the only Church founded by Jesus, outside of which there is no salvation. Catholics are the new people of God, the Chosen People (Nostra Aetate 4).There are only Catholics in Heaven.
The New Evangelisation of the two popes is based on the Letter of the Holy Office, lay movements must observe with caution. It is flawed.It is heretical.It is not the work of the Holy Spirit.
We now have the option to evangelise with the same doctrines and theology of the Jesuits in the middle ages, in harmony with Vatican Council II, interpreted without the false premise.-Lionel Andrades


OCTOBER 28, 2017


Faculty at Sacred Heart Major Seminary agree there are no known cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance in 2017

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/faculty-at-sacred-heart-major-seminary.html