Wednesday, October 4, 2017

Michael Voris says Pope Paul VI asked Lefebvre to affirm Vatican Council II (Cushingite) in exchange for permission to consecrate bishops

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(17:58) Lefebvre petitioned Rome to allow the consecration of Bishops. Rome agreed and asked in exchange that he accept the Second Vatican Council II- Michael Voris ,FBI-Catholic Schism

Lionel:
Get that right.
Michael Voris says that Pope Paul VI  was asking Archbishop Lefebvre to rubber stamp Vatican Council II (Cushingite) in exchange for allowing him to consecrate new bishops.
We now know that  Vatican Council II(Cushingite) is a heretical interpretation of Vatican Council II. Every hypothetical case mentioned in the Council is re-interpreted as as being an objectively known case of someone saved outside the Church without the baptism of water.This is a new Tradition which has come to us from Pope Paul VI.In reality there are no such people.Yet Vatican Council II was projected by Pope Paul VI as a break with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It was interpreted as a break with the Syllabus of Errors and the old ecclesiology by faking it; assuming hypothetical cases were non hypothetical.Then when Lefebvre rejected this interpretation of the Council they did not allow him to consecrate the bishops. When he went ahead they excommunicated him.
Today Vatican Council II (Cushingite) is magisterial and the popes want the SSPX to accept the heresy, the magisterial heresy.
They are aware that there is a Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) which is traditional and rational. But Rome is l resisting it.
Meanwhile Michael Voris and Cardinal Raymond Burke have accepted Vatican Council II(Cushngite) in exchange for recognition and legitimacy from the new Rome today.Since the SSPX will not compromise they are accusing the SSPX in this video of being in schism for not affirming an irrational and heretical version of the Council which Pope Paul VI was pushing.-Lionel Andrades

https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/fbicatholi-schism


OCTOBER 4, 2017


SSPX must continue to reject Vatican Council II (Cushingite) : do not compromise like Card. Raymond Burke, Michael Voris and others

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/sspx-must-continue-to-reject-vatican.html


St.Francis of Assisi doctrinally and theologically was very far from the namesake pope


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St.Francis of Assisi.The man who went to the Muslim Sultan and converted him.He prophesied that before his death he would be baptized. Friars appeared from no where at the Sultan's death bed.He died a Catholic.
St. Francis knew that all Muslims were on the way to Hell. Out of love for them he went into the Sultan's camp and came away alive.Francis was a Crusader.
He knew, like Vatican Council II tells us, that all people need faith and baptism for salvation.But most people die without it and are lost forever.
He would tell some of his Friars that heresy would lead them to Hell.He predicted that certain Friars were lost.
He knew that the Catholic Church was the only path to salvation.He reached the highest levels of mystical experience;union with God - within the Catholic Church.
He had a unity with animals and a oneness at the level of consciousness with the planets and the universe.
And yet he knew that sin takes you to Hell.
He lived real poverty. Poverty-poverty.And he encouraged the Friars to do the same.St. Clare too.
He had freed himself from every attachment to the world.In this sense he was a liberated man.He could commune with God and there were no obstacles.
He did not say like the Franciscans do today that invisible  and unknown people are exceptions to St.Francis' understanding of outside the Church there is no salvation.He held the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He was a Feeneyite.He did not pretend that we could know of baptism of desire, baptism of blood and XYZ cases in real life, when such people did not exist.
The newspapers today will highlight St. Francis' love for peace, the environment and animals but not his firm Catholicism. His identity was that of a Catholic - and not a Christian as Pope Francis wants to project us.
Doctrinally and theologically he was very far from the name sake pope.
He is the paton saint of Europe which has lost its Catholic identity since they have had the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus taken away from them by the enemies of the Church.At Fatima Our Lady said the dogma of the faith will be lost.She could be referring to the dogma St. Francis defended and popes Benedict and Francis are ashamed of.
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When Catholics affirm the dogma according to St. Francis and not Archbishop Richard Cushing and the Jesuits they will once again find their identity and their Faith.
-Lionel Andrades

SSPX must continue to reject Vatican Council II (Cushingite) : do not compromise like Card. Raymond Burke, Michael Voris and others.

The SSPX must continue to reject Vatican Council II (Cushingite) and not accept it as does Cardinal Raymond Burke, Michael Voris and others.
They need to affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and ask Cardinal Burke to do the same.Tell him he is in heresy presently.
Do not compromise like them.

Cardinal Burke and Michael Voris  do not affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus without assuming invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are visible exceptions. So for them all do not need to be incorporated into the Church as members for salvation since invisible and unknown people are visible and known exceptions to the dogma EENS.They also do not interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). Since LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer to known and visible cases in 2017.Theoretical cases mentioned in Vatican Council II are considered examples of known salvation outside the Church.
So they have changed the meaning of the Nicene Creed to 'We believe in three known baptisms, desire, blood and invincible ignorance, and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
Here is the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus which they reject.They will not affirm it public.

“There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (

“We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (
Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)

“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)


Here are hypothetical references in the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II which they assume are non hypothetical and are examples of objective cases saved outside the Church.So these magisterial documents become a rupture with Tradition when they really are not.


EXAMPLES OF HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES IN THE CATECHISM

1. 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'(CCC 1257)
'2.all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body'(CC(CCC 846).
3. Those 'justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians'(CCC 818).
4. They are 'joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."(CCC 838).
5. 'the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims'(CCC 841).


EXAMPLES OF HYPOTHETICAL REFERENCES IN VATICAN COUNCIL II

1. 'elements of sanctification and truth'in other religions(LG 8),
2..'good and holy' things in other religions(NA 2),
3..'a ray of that Truth which enlightens' all men(NA 2),
4.'imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3),
5.' people of good will in other religions'(GS 22),
6.' seeds of the Word'(AG 11),
7.'invincible ignorance'(LG 16),
8.'a good conscience'(LG 16) etc.
-Lionel Andrades


Secret of SSPX General Chapter Statement unknown to bishops : there are no possibile exceptions to EENS in Vatican Council II

Top Secret, Segreto, File, Cartella

Image result for photos of secretThe secret for the solution of the SSPX Reconciliation lies in the SSPX General Chapter Statement 2012, which the Vatican rejected.
The SSPX bishops still do not realize that when the General Chapter Statement affirmed outside the Church there is no salvation with no possible exceptions the Statement was saying that there are no possibile exceptions to Feeneyite EENS in Vatican Council II.
Here it is:
we reaffirm our faith in the Roman Catholic Church, the unique Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ, outside of which there is no salvation nor possibility to find the means leading to salvation 1
Capitularies of the SSPX's 2012 General Chapter
 
Here lies the SSPX's strong point, nay,clinching point in any negotiations with the Vatican, for canonical status.But the SSPX bishops do not know about this.
Probably only the prayers of the faithful will bring the grace to allow this point to 'sink in'.
The General Chapter Statement affirmed Feeneyite EENS.Bishop Fellay does not!
He affirms EENS according to the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
When Bishop Fellay affirms EENS according to the General Chapter Statement 2012 he will not be affirming EENS according to the 1949 Holy Office or Cardinal Richard Cushing, the Archbishop of Boston at that time.
When Bishop Fellay affirms EENS according to the General Chapter Statement he will not be affirming Vatican Council II according to Cardinals Kasper and Koch and the two popes.
He will be obliging Cardinal Burke to affirm Vatican Council II without LG 16 etc referring to a visible and known exception to Feeneyite EENS. Presently for Cardinal Burke, LG 16,UR 3 etc are a rupture with EENS.
For him the Council is a rupture with Tradition.There is a break with EENS according to the missionaries and magisterium of the 16th century.There is a rupture with the past ecclesiology which had its foundation in EENS(Feeneyite/16th century).
Now when the SSPX agrees formally that they affirm EENS according to the General Chapter Statement which says there are no possibile exceptions to salvation outside the Church they would have changed their perspective.They would be saying the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), past or present, refer to theoretical speculation, possibilities known only to God.They are not actual people in the present times saved outside the Church.There is no rupture with Tradition.
So when the Catechism of Pope Pius X mentions invincible ignorance it is not a rupture with Feeneyite EENS.
When the Baltimore Catechism mentions the baptism of desire it is not a rupture with Feeneyite EENS. Even though for the CDF/Ecclesia Dei it is !
The Vatican(CDF/Ecclesia Dei) has rejected the SSPX General Chapter Statement and will continue to do so.But in that statement lies a secret.
The secret, I repeat, is : there are no exceptions to EENS mentioned in Vatican Council II, since probabilities cannot be practical exceptions to the dogma EENS which says there is exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
So the SSPX Statement 2012 affirms outside of which there is no salvation nor possibility to find the means leading to salvation.There are none men mentioned in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church(19949.For liberals who understand what I am saying, this could be frightening.Those who discern would understand the implications.
It's a complete somersault on Vatican Council II.
The game has changed.The rules have changed.-Lionel Andrades
 
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