Sunday, September 10, 2017

Catholic Identity Conference in October limited by a false theology and new salvation doctrines

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The annual Catholic Identity Conference next month is flawed as usual since it is based on irrational Cushingite theology( invisible people are visible exceptions to EENS) and rejects the Novus Ordo Mass , since Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre did not know that Vatican Council II could be interpreted  without the philosophy and theology of Cushingism and that Feeneyism was an alternative which was rational and traditional. So for him the theology of the New Mass was a rupture with that of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the past.Maintaining this ignorance,another conference is being held by those who have directly or indirectly had their religious formation under Lefebvre. They are Catholics who cannot affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in accord with Feeneyite Vatican Council II ( invisible people are not visible exceptions to EENS, LG 16 is not a rupture with Tradition).
Catholics are not obliged to follow Chris Ferrara and Michael Matt's new theology based on there being practical exceptions to the dogma EENS, which is part of the formation at SSPX and FSSP seminaries.This is also the objective mistakes of the popes since the pontificate of Pius XII.
Catholics are not obliged to say, like the organizers of this Conference, that invisible cases of the baptism of desire (BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are exceptions to the past ecclesiology and the Syllabus of Errors (on ecumenism and non Christians being outside the Church).
Yet this is the innovative position of those who claim they support Tradition and who will organise or attend this conference.
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Like the Focolares,Neo Catechumenale Way and the Catholic Charismatic Renewal Movement the organizers and speakers including Fr.Jonathan Loop, SSPX and Fr.Gregory Pendergraft FSSP, reject the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.For them there is 'a development' with the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII. So for them there are practical exceptions to EENS even though they cannot name any body in the present times saved outside the Church without faith and baptism.Also claiming that invisible for us BOD, BOB and I.I is a visible exception to EENS is rational for them.
The Masons and liberals who discern must be laughing down their sleeves.On the other hand if the organizers of this annual conference, funded by the pro-Archbishop Lefebvre traditionalists, would affirm Feeneyite EENS and Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) the Jewish Left would not let them enjoy this annual futile, social event.
There are no speakers from the traditionalists who affirm Feeneyite EENS and reject invisible for us BOD, BOB and I.I being visible exceptions to the dogma EENS.At the St. Benedict Centers at Richmond N.H and Still River M.A, USA they also attend only the Tridentine Rite Mass but are not among the speakers.They also wrongly interpret Vatican Council II, like the SSPX and the FSSPX, with invisible for us LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc being examples of salvation outside the Church and are visible exceptions to EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.

The Conference also does not represent Catholics like me for whom there could be a solemn  and Sacred Mass in Italian and English and for whom their is no change in the ecclesiology of the Mass because the irrational premise is not used by me in the interpretation of any magisterial document.
This has been my message in blog posts since 2013 whenever this annual pro-Lefebvre conference is held.There has been no denial or correction from any one. 
They know that I am correct but they have got the funds and so they keep holding this meeting.The Lefebvrists in the English speaking world need to be fed with the old stuff to keep believing in it even when new disturbing facts emerge.
-Lionel Andrades



SEPTEMBER 9, 2017



There can be no Catholic identity without Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Feeneyite Vatican Council II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/here-can-be-no-catholic-identity.html



SEPTEMBER 12, 2014


The Call to Holiness and Catholic Identity Conference speakers will use a false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, Redemptoris Missio, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Dominus Iesus...
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/the-call-to-holiness-and-catholic.html


SEPTEMBER 12, 2014

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Both Conferences being held this week end don't have a Catholic Identity http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/both-conferences-being-held-this-week.html


The Call to Holiness and Catholic Identity Conference speakers will use a false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, Redemptoris Missio, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Dominus Iesus... http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/the-call-to-holiness-and-catholic.html

Two Catholic Conferences this week end - how would they interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church ?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/two-catholic-conferences-this-week-end_54.html

Two Catholic Conferences this week end: how would they interpret Redemptoris Missio? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/two-catholic-conferences-this-week-end_11.html

Two Catholic Conferences this week end : how would they interpret Dominus Iesus ? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/two-catholic-conferences-this-week-end.html

Two Conferences and an irrational premise
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/two-conferences-and-irrational-premise.html

Two Catholic Conferences : Both interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational premise.One accepts the Council the other rejects it
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/two-catholic-conferences-both-interpret.html

SEPTEMBER 10, 2014
Two Conferences and an irrational premise
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/two-conferences-and-irrational-premise.html

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