Friday, September 8, 2017

Jacob Rees-Mogg MP could follow the Catholic Church's post Vatican Council II teachings on there being exclusive salvation in the Church just as he opposes abortion

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Jacob Rees-Mogg MP, a Catholic Member of Parliament in England and Brexiteer, says  he follows the teachings of the Catholic Church on abortion.However he does not know like most Catholics in Britain that the  Catholic Church teaches that all non Catholics are oriented to Hell, with no known exceptions, unless they become members of the Church.

It is the Catholic Church today which teaches that all non Catholics are oriented to Hell unless they become members of the Church.I mentioned in a previous blog post that the Church teaches this in Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.
'All' need 'faith and baptism' for ' salvation' states Ad Gentes 7.
So if someone says there are exceptions, then this is a personal view.For traditionalists and leftists in England there are exceptions and this could have been Jacob Rees-Mogg's formation as a Catholic,from the liberal English Catholic bishops.
In general every one needs 'faith and baptism' for salvation and there are no known exceptions, there are no practical exceptions, for example in 2017.
The text of Vatican Council II also does not state that there are exceptions.This has to be inferred by the reader. This is wrongly inferred by most Catholics.
The text of Vatican Council II does not state that we must infer that LG 16, LG 8, LG 14, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22, AG 11, AG 7 etc refer to known and visible in the present times saved outside the Church.Common sense tells us that there cannot be known people who are saved outside the Church. Since they would be in Heaven and this would only be known to God.
So when the two popes and all the cardinals suggest that Lumen Gentium 16 etc are exceptions to Feeneyite EENS it is a mistake. It is their personal wrong inference.This is the common wrong inference in England too.
So it is the Catholic Church in its magisterial documents ,interpreted without the false premise and conclusion, which states all need faith and baptism to avoid the fires of Hell(CCC 1257, 845,846, Vatican Council II, AG 7, LG 16, John 3:5, Mark 16:16, Mat.7:13 etc, Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 etc)
So when I say that all non Catholics in 2017 need to formally enter the Church, with faith and baptism, I am affirming the traditional and post Vatican Council II teachings of the Catholic Church; according to magisterial documents interpreted without the false premise and conclusion.Jacob Rees-Mogg could do the same.This is the Catholic teaching of the Church.
So it is important for Catholics to proclaim the faith, to do mission, knowing that all non Catholics (Protestants, Orthodox Christians, Pentecostals,Evangelicals, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, atheists and pagans) need to enter the Church for salvation.Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation.This was taught by Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston and the magisterium of the16th century.This was taught by the Jesuit missionaries in the Middle Ages.
However it is not accepted by the two popes and all the cardinals of the Church today.They reject or do not know of magisterial documents interpreted without their irrational inference.
So it is only with the false inference that 'the Church', popes and cardinals, no more teach that all non Catholics need to enter the Church to avoid Hell.This is not binding on Jacob Rees-Mogg just as it is not binding me.
So for me the Church teaches that all non Catholics are on the way to Hell unless they become members of the Church.This is magisterial for me.This is the teaching of the Holy Spirit.The false inference is not the teaching of the Holy Spirit but is human errror. -Lionel Andrades



SEPTEMBER 8, 2017



England's Trump : Could Jacob Rees-Mogg MP proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King based on Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Feeneyite) ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/englands-trump-could-jacob-rees-mogg-mp.html

England's Trump : Could Jacob Rees-Mogg MP proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King based on Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Feeneyite) ?

Jacob Rees-Mogg MP,is a Catholic Member of Parliament in England.A Ready for Rees-Mogg, an online petition was set up urging Jacob Rees-Mogg to run for leader of the Conservative Party. He opposes Same Sex Marriage (SSM) and abortion in all circumstances.He attends the Tridentine Rite Mass.His marriage though was an ecumenical one and his wife is not a Catholic.As an Anglican she is outside the Church and on the way to Hell.
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As a traditionalist and conservative, which he is, if he held the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) he could proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King based on Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Feeneyite).Offering religious liberty for all he would be supporting the non separation of Church and State and all political laws having as their centre,Jesus as understood in the Catholic Church.
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As A Catholic he would be affirming all the magisterial documents of the Catholic Church.However he would not be affirming them with irrational Cushingite theology, with the irrational premise and conclusion, as do the two liberals popes.
He would also need to get re-married in a Catholic Church.Since presently he is living in adultery according to the traditional teachings of the Catholic Church. The dogma EENS, which is the basis for the teaching on the Social Reign of Christ the King and the non separation of Church and State is not contradicted by Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).
-Lionel Andrades

AUGUST 17, 2017


Bishops Fellay, Schneider are not proclaiming the Social Reign of Christ the King supported by Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite)http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/bishops-fellay-schneider-are-not.html


JULY 17, 2017

Catholic political parties must teach Catholics the faith which is not being taught by religious due to political pressure
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/catholic-political-parties-must-teach.html



 MAY 3, 2017

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Andrzej Duda President of Poland does not note the split between Church doctrine and State in Poland because of Cushingism
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/05/andrzej-dudathe-president-of-poland.html



DECEMBER 19, 2016


Catholics will not vote for the Catholic political parties :The four cardinals are using an irrational philosophy to reject the traditional ecclesiology and interpret Vatican Council II with the same irrationality
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/catholics-will-not-vote-for-catholic.html

NOVEMBER 18, 2016

The two Catholic political organisations are Forza Nuova and Militia Christi. These two lay organisations should be supported in some way this feast of Christ the King

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/the-two-catholic-political.html





NOVEMBER 18, 2016


On Sunday is the feast of Christ the King. We need to only vote for a political party which upholds the separation of secularism and state

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/on-sunday-is-feast-of-christ-king-we.html

Even the liberals and Masons say there is no salvation outside the Church and mean something else : Michael Voris is theologically saying the same



And what are the basics? This simple starting point is the Catholic Church is the One True Faith, and there is no salvation outside this Church because it was established by the Son of God. This single starting point renders all other religions false and incapable of saving you.-Michael Voris 
Lionel: 
Even the liberals and Masons say that there is no salvation outside the Church and everyone must be a member of the Church for salvation except for those in invincible ignorance(I.I), the baptism of desire(BOD) and baptism of blood(BOB).Michael Voris is theologically saying the same thing.This is really heresy. It does not seem so since it is magisterial and is a view held by most Catholics. 
Michael Voris also says that 'God is not bound to the Sacraments'(CCC 1257) in this Vortex. So there are exceptions.Every one in 2017 does not need to enter the Church, there is known salvation outside the Church.
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Michael Voris does not hold the Feeneyite position which says every one needs to be a member of the Catholic Church for salvation and there are no known exceptions, BOD, BOB and I.I are not known cases in our reality.
Michael Voris wants to be faithful to the magisterium of the two popes and also that of the magisterium of the past.He comes across irrational and confused.
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If he held the Feeneyite position on no salvation outside the Church then he could interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the dogma on no salvation outside the Church(Council of Florence 1441). It would also be in harmony with Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II(All need faith and baptism for salvation). Presently his magisterial interpretation is a rupture with the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church.Since for him hypothetical cases mentioned in Vatican Council II, like the Catechism's 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'(1257) refer to known cases saved outside the Church for him.Otherwise why mention it?
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So the Nicene Creed for him is not 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' but 'I believe in three or more baptisms,they are  desire, blood, ignorance etc , all without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.This is heresy but it is also magisterial.
He cannot help the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) ask for canonical status by affirming Vatican Council II with hypothetical cases just being hypothetical. He himself does not interpret Vatican Council II with hypothetical cases being hypothetical.
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He has accepted the two popes' false and irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.Now he is selling it to others.
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He knows that the Rector and professors of theology and philosophy at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary, Detroit, are making a philosophical error in the interpretation of magisterial documents. He cannot correct them. Since he makes the same error and it is magisterial. The Catholic professors there also know that it is a mistake but it is magisterial and they need their teaching jobs and other responsibilities.
So now when the Masons and liberals say outside the Church there is no salvation it is no big deal.They mean the same thing as Michael Voris.
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The professors at the Major Seminary in Detroit would quickly clarify that they are not Feeneyites, the political Left would do the same,so would Michael.

This single starting point renders all other religions false and incapable of saving you

Other religions are false and incapable of saving it's followers but there could be exceptions of salvation outside the Church among them for Michael Voris.So also for the liberals. So they state that every one does not need to be a card carrying member of the Church for salvation. In another program a few years back Michael Voris has said the same thing.
There could be people saved with BOD, BOB and I.I or since God is not limited to the Sacraments is the understanding for all of them, as it was for Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger.-Lionel Andrades

SEPTEMBER 8, 2017

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Practically, in real life God is bound to the Sacraments for salvation.Without the Sacraments there is no salvation

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/practically-in-real-life-god-is-bound.html


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 SEPTEMBER 8, 2017

The Catholic Church teaches that all non Catholics are oriented to Hell, with no known exceptions, unless they become members of the Church, this is not a personal opinion only
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/the-catholic-church-teaches-that-all.html






Practically, in real life God is bound to the Sacraments for salvation.Without the Sacraments there is no salvation

Not that God is bound by His sacraments as a means to impart grace but the sacraments are guarantees of grace — the only limit of His infinite grace being what we ourselves place on it through our improper disposition or attachment to sin.-Michael Voris 


Yes practically, in real life God is bound to the Sacraments for salvation.Without the Sacraments there is no salvation. The baptism of water is needed for all with no exception in 2017 for salvation.There is no known salvation outside the Church.
When the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1257) says God is not bound to the Sacraments  we have to remember that we do not know of any exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) because ' God is not bound to the Sacraments.'
One can speculative and hope that God is not bound to the Sacraments in a personal case, for example of a friend or relative, but this is only speculation and a private opinion.
Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger made a mistake here in CCC 1257. He assumed that the baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood (BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) referred to known cases saved outside the Church. So they were exceptions for him to the dogma EENS. This was the mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII.
So the references to BOD, BOB and I.I in Vatican Council II are superflous and based on the objective error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.When Ad Gentes 7 says all need faith and baptism for salvation then BOD, BOB and I.I mentioned in LG 16, AG 7 ,LG 14 etc are not exceptions since they cannot be objective cases known to be saved outside the Church.
Now the error is being repeated by Michael Voris with no clarification and a lot of theological confusion.
Similarly on the Mic'd Up program hosted by Christine Niles she accepted the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which assumes invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I are known exceptions to the dogma EENS ( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441).She could not say that the magisterium made a mistake in the Letter which was repeated in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
In principle God is bound by the Sacraments to grant grace and salvation.The Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the (Sacrament) baptism of water says the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1257).Defacto, in real life every one is bound to receive the Sacraments for salvation.
-Lionel Andrades