Sunday, July 16, 2017

Catholics need to work for the separation of State and secularism and the non separation of Church and State even if opposed by Fr.Spadero s.j and the Vatican


Fr.Antonio Spadero in La Civilita Cattolica does not support the Social Reign of Jesus Christ the King  over all political legislation.Catholic laity need to do the opposite.Even if they are opposed by the Vatican.Support the Social Reign of Christ the King leading to a theocracy hated and feared by the leftsists, socialists, communists, liberals, satanists and Satan himself.
Catholics need to work for a separation of secularism and state.There should be a separation of leftist ideology and the State.It is clear that the Left is of Satan and is being supported by La Civita Cattolica and the present magisterium of Pope Franics.Perhaps they are being threathen and lied to by the enemies of the Church.
The leftist ideology seeks freedom only for the things of Satan or what Satan would approve directly or indirectly.Fr.Spadero has to obey 
to stay at La Civilita Cattolica.He supports the non separation of the State and  the leftist ' religion'.Instead he should oppose their immorality, support for  abortion, contraception, restrictions on Judeo Christian values etc.Immorality must be  separated from the Government.
Why vote for the leftists or the right wing when both are the creation of secularism.Secularism is sectarian and discriminatory.It represents one particular lobby.
Instead with Feeneyite Vatican Council II the Catholic Church affirms the Social Reign of Christ the King.
Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) is a foundational dogma. Upon it is also based the traditional teaching on the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation and the non separation of Church and state.
Since there is no known salvation outside the Church, all political and social legislation must be focused on Jesus as he is known in the Catholic Church.This is a priority for salvation.
When Catholics  accept the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by Fr. Leonard Feeney then Vatican Council II would pastorally be in harmony with Tradition.This was observed by a Polish Catholic, on Gloria TV.He made the connection between Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) and the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.Catholics do not know about it.Since Fr.Antonio Spadero and the leftist media will not tell them about it.
For Fr. Leonard Feeney there were no exceptions to the dogma EENS. The baptism of desire etc were not relevant or exceptions.This is the reasoning we  need to adopt with Vatican Council II.It is a fact of life that there are no known exceptions.There cannot be any exception in 2017.
With the Feeneyite approach, the centuries-old approach, Vatican Council II has a continuity with the dogma EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, the Catechism of Pope Pius X (Feeneyite),the Catechism of the Catholic Church(Feeneyite) and the rest of Tradition.All these magisterial documents are interpreted with hypothetical cases not being explicit in the present times.So we are back to the old ecclesiology which supported a Catholic theocracy.

The Vatican, which is continously  threathened by the Left
does not support in any way the few Catholic political organisations which affirm the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation.In  Italy they are Militia Christi and Forza Nuova.Instead the Vatican supports the ideology of the leftist Partito Democratico, whose leaders are reportedly Masons and Communists.They interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational premise to create a non traditional conclusion which is a rupture with Tradition.1
 Vatican Council II actually says all need faith and baptism for salvation(AG 7).All. So it is a priority that all people enter the Catholic Church, to avoid the fires of Hell.This aspect of Vatican Council II would be scary for Fr.Spadero.Extra ecclesiam nulla salus is the foundation for a theocracy. The Masons know it.
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The Catholic Church officially teaches extra ecclesiam nulla salus (Ad Gentes 7, Lumen Gentium 14 Vatican Council II) and so all legislation needs to be centered on Jesus, and the Social Kingship of Jesus,there being no separation of Church and State. 
We have the present Magisterium of popes, ecclesiastics at the Vatican,in rebellion against the Magisterium of the ecclesiastics  of, for example, the 16th century.
Pope Benedict confirmed this in March 2016 when he announced through daily Avvenire, that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.
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He was not going to announce that he personally interpreted EENS and Vatican Council II without the false premise and so there was no development of the dogma with Vatican Council II (Feeneyite).Instead he was using his office to enforce the interpretation of Vatican Council II with the false premise. He was not going to announce this since he had to follow the instructions of the Left, as does Fr.Antonio Spadero s.j.
-Lionel Andrades

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JULY 16, 2017


Ralph Martin and Robert Fastiggi do not deny that Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and non traditional conclusion

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/ralph-martin-and-robert-fastiggi-do-not.html



Repost : Vatican Council II (Cushingite) has erred but it can be re-intepreted with Feeneyism: Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) is not heretical

Vatican Council II (Cushingite) has erred but it can be re-intepreted with Feeneyism: Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) is not heretical

CONCLUSION:

Vatican Council II (Cushingite) has erred but it can be re-interpreted with Feeneyism.Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) is not heretical.
So in conclusion I agree with Bishop Robert Sanborn  since Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) would be heretical.I also agree with Dr.Robert Fastiggi, since Vatican Council II ( Feneyite) is not heretical.
Bishop Sanborn assumed hypothetical cases were explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus( EENS-Feeneyite).Dr.Fastiggi was trying to interpret hypothetical cases as being only hypothetical and so for him they were not exceptions to EENS.So Vatican Council II would be in agreement with St. Robert Bellarmine for him.
I would choose to interpret Vatican Council II like Dr.Fastiggi since it would come across as rational and traditional.Dr.Fastiggi wanted to reconcile Vatican Council II with the past.This desire was strong in him.It was good.
I would also avoid the errors in Vatican Council II (Cushingite) which Bishop Sanborn correctly pointed out.
Vatican Council Ii supports St. Robert Bellamine on outside the Church there is no salvation.It does not contradict the Syllabus of Errors.
I think the two speakers were a good example of dialogue and they helped me to understand, how they think about Vatican Council II and the Church at large.
-Lionel Andrades


MONDAY, JUNE 27, 2016

ECCLESIOLOGY DEBATE: BP. DONALD SANBORN VS. DR. ROBERT FASTIGGI (2004) : IRRATIONAL NON TRADITIONAL CUSHINGITE THEOLOGY ADOPTED

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/ecclesiology-debate-bp-donald-sanborn.html

JUNE 27, 2016
Bishop Robert Sanborn and Dr.Robert Fastiggi are unaware of Cushing theology and irrational reasoning : at the centre of their debate is really the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/bishop-robert-sanborn-and-drrobert.html

Both of them would at times refer to an EENS or a Vatican Council II which is Cushingite or Feeneyite, I could just watch the mix up,sadly.I could see through the mistake they are both making innocently http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/both-of-them-would-at-times-refer-to.html


St.Robert Bellarmine and St. Augustine were Feeneyite in their ecclesiology as were the popes of their times.The popes since Pius XII to Pope Francis have accepted the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/strobert-bellarmine-and-st-augustine.html


TUESDAY, JUNE 28, 2016

Bp. Donald Sanborn and Dr. Robert Fastiggi are mixing up Cushingism and Feeneyism as a theology  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/bp-donald-sanborn-and-dr-robert.html


The 23,000 bishops and the Vicar of Christ assumed hypothetical cases were explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS-Feeneyite) : Cushingism is a break with St. Robert Bellarmine

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/the-23000-bishops-and-vicar-of-christ.html

So compared to the time of St. Robert Bellarmine we have a new ecclesiology and soteriology with heretical consequences: the Feeneyite theology of St. Robert Bellarmine is replaced with Cushingism

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/so-compared-to-time-of-st-robert.html

Lumen Gentium 8 reflects the new theology, Cushingism: it has to be re-interpreted with rational Feeneyism

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/lumen-gentium-8-reflects-new-theology.html


There is continuity with the past if Feeneyism is the theology used to interpret Vatican Council II. There is no continuity with the past if Cushingism is the theology.The theology of Pope John Paul II like that of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was Cushingite
 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/there-is-continuity-with-past-if.html

The Council Fathers erred http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/the-council-fathers-erred.html

This is un-precedented. We are faced with magisterial heresy.We have a Council which has approved heresy
 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/10640-this-is-unprecedented-situation.html

The inferences of Bishop Sanborn and Dr. Fastiggi are mistaken.They have used the irrational premise of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and have accepted the non traditional inference

 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/the-inferences-of-bishop-sanborn-and-dr.html


I don't think we need to eliminate Vatican Council II.We only need to re-interpret it with Feeneyism http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/i-dont-think-we-need-to-eliminate.html

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JULY 16, 2017


Ralph Martin and Robert Fastiggi do not deny that Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and non traditional conclusion

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/ralph-martin-and-robert-fastiggi-do-not.html

Jews Are Not Israel Or The Chosen People

Ralph Martin and Robert Fastiggi do not deny that Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and non traditional conclusion

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Ralph Martin in my personal communication with him does not deny 1) that the baptism of desire is not physically visible in 2017 and that 2)  invisible baptism of desire is not an explicit exception to the dogma EENS?
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He does not deny that when he wrote his books on Evangelisation and 'Will Many Be Saved'(Amazon) he made the above two errors.

POPE BENEDICT AND CARDINAL LADARIA MADE THE SAME ERROR
He does not deny that the above two errors were made by Pope Benedict and Cardinal Ladaria s.j in two theological papers of the International Theological Commission, Vatican. They are Christianity and the World Religions (1997) and The Hope of Salvation for Infants who Die Without being Baptised(2007).1

POPE FRANCIS HAS MADE PHILOSOPHICAL ERRORS
He does not deny that Pope Francis has made the same two philosophical errors in his interpretation of Vatican Council II. He has violated the Principle of Non Contradiction.

OBJECTIVE MISTAKE MADE BY POPE FRANCIS
In other words the pope made an objective mistake in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.Ralph Martin himself has been teaching this error at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary, Detroit.

RALPH MARTIN TOO HAS BEEN USING THE FALSE PREMISE
Ralph Martin has been using a false premise like everbody else to create a New Theology which is a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) as it was interpreted by the missionaries in the 16th century.Vatican Council II is wrongly made a rupture with Tradition.
It is being done with Cushingite theology an innovation in the Church which replaced the traditional Feeneyite theology based upon invisible people just being invisible.

RALPH MARTINS BOOKS DO NOT SAY ALL NON CATHOLICS ORIENTED TO HELL ACCORDING TO VATICAN COUNCIL II
In his books Ralph Martin could not say that all Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, Muslims, Protestants, Pentecostals and Evangelicals were on the way to Hell since they were outside the Church,without Catholic faith(AG 7). They needed 'faith and baptism'(AG 7,LG 14 Vatican Council II) to avoid the fires of Hell.Cushingite theology with its alleged known exceptions to the traditional exclusivist ecclesiology, based on the dogma EENS, prevented him from saying this.
Martin could not say that Vatican Council II indicates that most people are oriented to Hell since they die without 'faith and baptism' in the Catholic Church, the only Church Jesus founded outside of which there is no salvation.
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HYPOTHETICAL CASES ARE EXPLICIT IN THE PRESENT TIMES ALSO FOR DR.ROBERT FASTIGGI
Instead he has assumed, like his colleague Prof. Robert Fastiggi, at the seminary in Detroit, that LG 16(invincible ignorance/good conscience, LG 8(elements of sanctification and truth/subsists it) , LG 14(catechumens with the desire to be in the Church), AG 7(incuplably ignorant of the Gospel) , UR 3 (the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation, NA 2(The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions/they often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men), GS 22(all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way),AG 11( seeds of the Word) etc,refer to personally known cases saved outside the Church.For me they are hypothetical and theoretical cases only and so would not be relevant to the dogma EENS.For Ralph Martin they are people known, visible, saved outside the Church and so there is salvation outside the Church for him.This is the new theology which he teaches.
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BISHOP SANBORN AND ROBERT FASTIGGI WERE UNAWARE OF CUSHINGITE THEOLOGY
This has also been the false theology of his colleague Dr.Robert Fastiggi, who expressed it indirectly in his debate with the sedevacantist Bishop Donald Sanborn, who is also a Cushingite.Fastigggi wanted Sanborn to accept Vatican Council II with this irrational premise and new theology.This was magisterial for him.Sanborn was using the same irrational premise with the non traditional conclusion and so was rejecting Vatican Council II. It is with this insight into their problem I had to helplessly watch the Youtube video on line hoping I could help in some way.

RALPH MARTIN AND ROBERT FASTIGGI TACITLY AGREE POPES VIOLATED PRINCIPLE OF NON CONTRADICTION
They both tacitly agree now that they are aware that Pope Benedict and Pope Francis, like them at Detroit, violated the Principle of Non Contradiction in their interpretation of Vatican Council II.2
Since 1)) the baptism of desire is not physically visible in 2017 and 2)  invisible baptism of desire cannot be a visible exception to the dogma EENS?

POSSIBILITIES IN VATICAN COUNCIL II CANNOT BE EXCEPTIONS TO EENS IN 2017
A possibility cannot be an exception to EENS in the present times.To infer that a possibility is an exception to the dogma EENS is Cushingism.LG 16, LG 8, LG 14, AG 7, UR 3 , NA 2, GS 22 and AG 11 are only possibilities.Speculation with good will.Theoretical hypothesis.

RUPTURE WITH MAGISTERIUM OF THE PAST
The conclusion, created with the false premise, for Martin and Fastiggi, like the two popes, is a rupture with the Magisterium of the past.
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We have the present Magisterium of popes, ecclesiastics at the Vatican,in rebellion against the Magisterium of the ecclesiastics  of, for example, the 16th century.
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Pope Benedict confirmed this in March 2016 when he announced through daily Avvenire, that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.

POPE BENEDICT REFUSED TO AFFIRM VATICAN COUNCIL II WITHOUT THE FALSE PREMISE
He was not going to announce that he personally interpreted EENS and Vatican Council II without the false premise and so there was no development of the dogma with Vatican Council II (Feeneyite).Instead he was using his office to enforce the interpretation of Vatican Council II with the false premise.

NO DENIAL FROM MARTIN AND FASTIGGI : POPES MADE AN ERROR IN THEOLOGY AND DOCTRINE
Now Ralph Martin and Robert Fastiggi are not denying that the two popes made a factual and objective error in their interpretation of Vatican Council II, with the use of a false premise.How can they defend the popes? They cannot say  that invisible cases are objectivly visible and so the popes were correct.

NO DENIAL THAT THE SAME ERROR IS THERE IN RALPH MARTINS BOOOKS
They are not denying that the same error was made by Ralph Martin in his writings.His books are not Feeneyite but Cushingite.Like Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus he accepted the objective error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston.
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OFFICIAL THEOLOGY FLAWED IN THE ARCHDIOCESE OF DETROIT
The same error is the official theology in the Archdiocese of Detroit and at the Major Seminary where they teach.-Lionel Andrades  

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THE HOPE OF SALVATION FOR INFANTS WHO DIE WITHOUT BEING BAPTISED
The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without  being baptized', International Theological Commission, 2007
59. The Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston (1949) offers further specifications. “To gain eternal salvation, it is not always required that a person be incorporated in reality (reapse) as a member of the Church, but it is necessary that one belong to it at least in desire and longing (voto et desiderio). It is not always necessary that this desire be explicit as it is with catechumens.

When one is invincibly ignorant, God also accepts an implicit desire, so called because it is contained in the good disposition of soul by which a person wants his or her will to be conformed to God’s will”. - The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without  being baptized', International Theological Commission, 2007
'it is not always required that a person be incorporated in reality(reapse) as a member of the Church.'
Why is it not necessary?
Since there are exceptions for the popes.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/pope-benedict-approved-mistake-of.html



 CHRISTIANITY AND THE WORLD RELIGIONSInternational Theological Commission, Vol I
'10. Exclusivist ecclesiocentrism—the fruit of a specific theological system or of a mistaken understanding of the phrase extra ecclesiam nulla salus—is no longer defended by Catholic theologians after the clear statements of Pius XII and Vatican Council II on the possibility of salvation for those who do not belong visibly to the Church (cf, e.g., LG 16; GS 22)...'-International Theological Commission, Christianity and the World Religions
'on the possibility of salvation for those who do not belong visibly to the Church'
A possibility is not a visible case.This is a mistake in the inference.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/international-theological-commission.html



67. Vatican Council II makes its own the expression extra ecclesiam nulla salus. But in using it the council explicitly directs itself to Catholics and limits its validity to those who know the necessity of the Church for salvation. The council holds that the affirmation is based on the necessity of faith and of baptism affirmed by Christ (LG 14). In this way the council aligned itself in continuity with the teaching of Pius XII, but emphasized more clearly the original parenthentical character of this expression.- Christianity and the World Religions 1997,International Theological Commission
'and limits its validity to those who know the necessity of the Church for salvation.'
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Those 'who do not know', who are in invincible ignorance, and are allegedly saved would be known only to God. They are invisible cases for us on earth. So they are not relevant to the dogmaextra ecclesiam nulla salus.Here the ITC has made a mistake.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/international-theological-commission.html

SEPTEMBER 16, 2016



Archbishop Guido Pozzo talks about doctrine with reference to the SSPX but does not mention the error of Pope Benedict and the International Theological Commission in which he collaboratedhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/archbishop-guido-pozzo-talks-about.html

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JULY 15, 2017


Experts agree.No denial from Vatican.Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise.Violates Principle of Non Contradiction

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/experts-agreeno-denial-from-vaticanpope.html