Sunday, July 9, 2017

It is a week and no FSSP priest denies what I have written : TLM with manifest mortal sin for politically correct reasons

SATURDAY, JULY 1, 2017


Solemn Tridentine Rite Mass tomorrow with manifest sacrilege


Last Saturday I wrote on this blog that on Sunday morning(July 2, 2017) there will be a solemn Tridentine Rite Mass at 11 a.m at the church Santissima Trinita dei Pelligrini, Rome which an FSSP priest will offer.The FSSP do not deny , that they will offer the Mass as follows. 
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1.For the priest, the Mass will be offered in which they will change the understanding of the Nicene Creed. For the three FSSP priests  it will mean, 'I believe in three known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins,they are the baptisms of desire, blood and invincible ignorance, all without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.So I do not believe in one known baptism for the forgiveness of sins, the baptism of water'.
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There is no denial here from the FSSP on this point.They agree with me.This is public heresy.
They will not tell me that they disagree with me and that I am wrong, since they want to be politically correct with the leftist magisterium of the Church.They will continue to proclaim and teach error.
It is week since I wrote that piece and e-mailed it to the FSSP priests in Rome and elsewhere.1
No comment. No denial.Since what I have said is the truth.For personal reasons they have to change the Nicene Creed and also teach the error to young people in Catechism classes. This is being politically correct with the Left and the two popes.
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For the last 10 years or more Fr.Joseph Kramer, the Australian Parish Priest at Santissima dei Pellegrini has been denying the Catholic Faith and considers it a virtue.This is how they offer the Tridentine Rite Mass.
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2.They will change the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) to mean outside the Church there is salvation, there is known salvation.This includes invisible cases of the baptism of desire and blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, all being not invisible but visible.Since they are physically visible there is salvation outside the Church. So the dogma EENS according to the 16th century magisterium has been changed.
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There is no denial here from Fr.Joseph Kramer the Parish Priest.He agrees with me.He will change the meaning of the Nicene Creed and the dogma EENS and offer Mass. This will be public mortal sin. Even after being informed over the years he will go ahead with no repentance.This would be sacrilege.The Eucharist would be valid but the priest will be offering it sacrilegiously.The congregation will be in ignorance.
See. Here too there is no denial. The FSSP priests agree with me. They are in manifest mortal sin. But to be able to offer the Tridentine Rite Mass or Mass in Italian they have to continue with this first class heresy.
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3.At this church tomorrow the priests will interpret Vatican Council II with all references to hypothetical cases being explicitly known in 2017.How can theoretical cases be objectively known in 2017? Who can see someone saved with the 'seeds of the Word' and without the baptism of water? So LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc will all refer to not theoretical cases but practical exceptions to EENS.Then the FSSP priests will say that in Vatican Council II these are references to personally known cases, and so they are examples of salvation outside the Church.Vatican Council II will be a rupture with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).For the FSSP there are known cases of non Catholics saved ,without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7), as if they would know.
Again as over the years there has been no denial from them on this point.
This is first class heresy and an impediment to offering Holy Mass. This a mortal sin of faith.A lay member of the congregation must challenge it canonically.Since the priests are not going to do anything about this.They are concerned about their careers.In obedience they will also accept and follow heresy.
Their heresy in this case, is based on an irrational premise( invisible baptism of desire is visible) and non traditional conclusion ( invisible baptism of desire is a visible exception to EENS, so Vatican Council II is a rupture with Tradition).
This is an objective error.It is a fact of life that we cannot know of any exception to EENS in real life.There cannot br any practical exception.Who among us can say that someone on earth will be saved with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water, or someone is in Heaven without the baptism of water? No one.
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The FSSP priests  may say that their position is magisterial but it still is an objective error even if it is supported by the two living popes. The popes are violating the Principle of Non Contradiction.
These are mortal sins of faith I repeat and those who attend Mass at this FSSP church should be informed about the exact reason, why the FSSP priests in Rome:
1. Have a non traditional understanding of the Nicene Creed.
2. Interpret the dogma EENS as a rupture with the understanding of the dogma in the past, example, in the 16th century.They use an irrational premise to interpret  Vatican Council II and the baptism of desire and blood and being saved in invincible ignorance and then infer that there is a rupture with EENS. 
3.They do not interpret Vatican Council II and the dogma EENS without the irrational premise; without assuming invisible cases are visible.Nor do they demand that the magisterium does the same.
The congregation should be told that the magisterium has violated the Principle of Non Contradiction and has made an objective mistake and the FSSP priests are following it so that they are not suspended or transferred, even though they know it is a mortal sin.
In their catechism and other religious programs they do not educate the congregation with the truth instead they promote the official, politically correct with the Left theology that creates new doctrines,which they accept, while they offer the old Mass.
There is no comment, as expected, from anyone, to defend the FSSP priests.
None of the FSSP priests are going to say,"Lionel, you are correct.Vatican Council II and EENS, Cushingite is irrational.So it is a rupture with Tradition because of the false premise.From today we will interpret Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and EENS with Feeneyite theology.It is rational and traditional. It is not a rupture with Tradition.'
No.one.is.willing.to.affirm.tradtional.Catholic.teaching.
Not a single priest.
Some ten years back the FSSP priests in Rome were not even willing to give their contact address to explain Dominus Iesus and the CDF Notification of Fr. Jacques Dupuis s.j in harmony with the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II(AG 7, LG 14).
-Lionel Andrades

1.http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/solemn-tridentine-rite-mass-tomorrow.html

JUNE 30, 2017

Tridentine Rite Mass in Rome is a sacrilege : needs to be challenged canonically
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/tridentine-rite-mass-in-rome-is.html

Marriage in Extraordinary or Ordinary form of the Mass in Italy or Germany is being solemnised in mortal sin otherwise no permission would be given by the local bishop

If you choose to get married at the FSSP church in Rome,Santissima dei Pelligrini with the  Tridentine Rite Mass.Since it will be with a priest who interprets the Nicene Creed with Cushingism. There  understanding is ' I believe in three or more baptisms for the forgiveness of sins, they include the baptism of desire and blood and being saved in invincible ignorance all without the baptism of water. These are known baptisms without the baptism of water.So it is not I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. It is not only the baptism of water.
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This was not the understanding of the Nicene Creed in the 16th century when a young couple asked to be a married.This is heresy which the FSSP ar allowed to proclaim in Exchange for offereing the Traditinal Latin Mass which is livit for the sacrileguous magisterium at the Vatican  today.
There is no denial from Fr.Joseph Kramer FSSP the Praish Priest at the Santissima dei Trinita Rome.The Australian priest is not going to announce that he will interpret all magisterial documents without an irrational premise and so there will be a traditional conclusion.So with all this  confusion and irrationality  couples go to be married.
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Why would a young couple choose to be married in a Catholic church when the priests change the meaning of the Nicene Creed, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church?-
Where are the Catholic Lawyers associations and the married couples associations in the Church ? Why don't they ask the priest  to affirm magisterial documents rationally and traditionally even if the present magisterium and the two popes do not?
 
Where is the Catholic priest available to officiate at a wedding with traditional theology and doctrine? Where is the priest who will say in public that 'all Jews, Muslims and other non Catholics, with no exceptions in 2017, are oriented to the fires of Hell and this is a magisterial teaching according to Vatican Council II(AG 7, LG 14)'. 1
 
So when you get married in Italy or Germany and if you are a young Catholic who tries to live the Catholic Faith know that with mortal sin a marriage is being solemnised, in the Extraordinary and Ordinary form of the Mass.Otherwise no permission would be given by the liberal and leftist Vatican and the local Bishop.
 
The laity can find out first hand. The could ask the Bishop to provide them with FSSP priests who do not make irrational inferences and change the meaning of the Nicene Creed.2 They wil not find any such priest.Even today Sunday a sacrilegeous Mass was offered at the FSSP Church in Rome and there is no denial from the FSSP priests.3 Since if they want to offer the Latin Mass they have to do with heresy and mortal sin. This is the political condition for all priests, not only those who offer the Tridentine Rite Mass.
Lionel Andrades
 
 
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JULY 8, 2017
All Catholics should proclaim that all Jews, Muslims and other non Catholics, with no exceptions in 2017, are oriented to the fires of Hell and this is a magisterial teaching according to Vatican Council II(AG 7, LG 14)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/all-catholics-should-proclaim-that-all.html


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July 3, 2017

The bottom line is that we are all reciting the Nicene Creed but there are two different interpretations

 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 


 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 

 
 

 
 
The bottom line is that we are all reciting the Nicene Creed but there are two different interpretations
 
 JULY 3, 2017

FSSP church Santissima Trinita dei Pelligrini : new understanding of Nicene Creed


 

JULY 2, 2017

Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.j made factual errors in two ITC theological papers which were politically correct

Engaged- to- be- maried couples should canonically challenge the German bishops and priests to accept Vatican Council ( Feeneyite) in harmony with EENS (Feeneyite)

from the blog The Eponymous Flower
Katholisches] We document here a letter from Reinhard Cardinal Max, expressly forbidding the marriages conducted by priests belonging to the Priestly Society of St. Pius X.

It expresses in its reply an understanding of our concern about the "still ongoing ecclesiastical illegality of the Society of St. Pius and the situation which has not yet been clarified"...

  He explained that the decisions taken by Pope Francis in favor of the pastoral needs of believers are determined by the consideration that the Priestly Fraternity is on its way to full communion.- Cardinal Müller and Cardinal Marx Join Forces Against the SSPX in Germany 1
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Lay Catholics in Germany must canonically challenge the German bishops or call up Press Conferences saying that the German bishops like the two popes and the Vatican Curia interpret Vatican Council II with irrational Cushingite theology and reject the traditional and rational Feeneyite theology. This is 'ecclesiastical illegality'. The 'magisterium of ecclesiastics at the Vatican' opposes 'the magisterium of Vatican Council II and magisterial documents' when they interpret the Council with Cushingism.Their irrational premise makes Vatican Council II a rupture with Tradition, when the Council is really traditionalist.
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The German bishops are not in full communion with the Holy Spirit, who cannot teach irrationality,falsehood and objective mistakes to  change traditional Catholic teachings.Their deception is now public. The German Cardinal Ratzinger used a false premise to create a non traditional conlusion  which he called Catholic 'doctrine' and 'the deposit of the faith'.Then he demanded that the SSPX accept this non traditional teaching to be in full  communion with the Catholic Church under his magisterium.
For Pope Benedict, the German bishops were in full communion with the Church since they accepted the Rahner-Ratzinger New Theology.It was based on visible for us baptism of desire cases in 2017 supposedly being objective exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Pope Benedict confirmed all this subterfuge,in March 2017.It is  approved for the Church by liberal rabbis who sit along side cardinals and call Press Conferences.The pope said in the 2016 interview in Avvenire  that there was 'a development' of the dogma EENS with Vatican Council II.He meant Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) interpreted  with all hypothetical cases mixed up as explicit and known cases.This is his understanding of Catholic philosophy.
Now the German bishops are trying to twist the arms of lay Catholics who want to be married by SSPX priests in Germany.Future spouses should challenge the German bishops canonically. Demand that they be married by priests, who affirm Vatican Council II with rational Feeneyite theology and who do not assume that we can see people in Heaven or on earth,saved, and  who are there without faith and baptism in the Church.Instead they are saved with 'visible for us baptism of desire', as if the German bishops could know them.
Ask for German priests to marry you who interpret the Nicene Creed rationally.All of them presently interpret the Nicene Creed with irrational Cushingism which is approved by the Left and Satan.
Couples engaged to be married affirm in public Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) in harmony with EENS( Feeneyite) and the Catechism( Feeneyite).Then ask the German priests ready to marry you, to also do the same.
Lay Catholics should refuse to allow the German bishops to force them to accept heresy and mortal sins of faith and then be recognised as being 'ecclesiastically legal'.
Ask the German bishops to state formally that 'all Jews, Muslims and other non Catholics, with no exceptions in 2017, are oriented to the fires of Hell and this is a magisterial teaching according to Vatican Council II(AG 7, LG 14)'  2
Lay Catholics instead should affirm this teaching of Vatican Council II in public and challenge the German bishops to do so,I repeat.If they will not do so,for ideological or whatever reasons,  accuse them of rejecting the Council ( interpreted with Feeneyism) and being  'ecclesiastically illegal'.
-Lionel Andrades

1.
http://eponymousflower.blogspot.it/2017/07/cardinal-muller-and-cardinal-marx-join.html


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 JULY 8, 2017

All Catholics should proclaim that all Jews, Muslims and other non Catholics, with no exceptions in 2017, are oriented to the fires of Hell and this is a magisterial teaching according to Vatican Council II(AG 7, LG 14)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/all-catholics-should-proclaim-that-all.html

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JULY 6, 2017


Everything hinges on visible baptism of desire : correct the premise and change the Council  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/everything-hinges-on-visible-baptism-of.html


JULY 6, 2017


Church Militant TV repeats the magisterium's false propaganda on Vatican Council II which they have compromised with


http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/church-militant-tv-repeats-magisteriums.html


JULY 6, 2017


Everything hangs on invisible for us baptism of desire : Vatican Council II changes  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/everything-hangs-on-invisible-for-us.html

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 JULY 5, 2017


That the baptism of desire is invisible and not physically visible is a great secret of Cardinal Ladaria and others at the Vatican.For them this is very important information to hide

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/that-baptism-of-desire-is-invisible-and.html




To accomodate the error of visible baptism of desire Cardinal Ratzinger changed the Profession of Faith, Oath of Fidelity and Canon Law

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/to-accomodate-error-of-visible-baptism.html
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JULY 5, 2017


When will the SSPX and the St.Benedict Centers simply say that there are no baptism of desire cases in our reality ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/when-will-sspx-and-stbenedict-centers.html


JULY 5, 2017


We can renew our consecration to the Immaculate Heart and also affirm Feeneyite theology and reject the Cushingite one : then see the dramatic difference in Vatican Council II  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/we-can-renew-our-consecration-to.html


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 JULY 5, 2017


SSPX must ask Bishops Conferences in the USA, UK, Italy, etc to affirm Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) or not make the Council an issue for reconciliation

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/sspx-must-ask-bishops-conferences-in_5.html

JULY 4, 2017


CDF asks SSPX to interpret Vatican Council II with irrational Cushingism and reject traditional Feeneyism

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/cdf-wants-sspx-to-interpret-vatican.html


JULY 4, 2017

FSSP priests need to interpret the Nicene Creed with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism.Bishops must be informed about the error

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/fssp-priests-need-to-interpret-nicene.html 

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The bottom line is that we are all reciting the Nicene Creed but there are two different interpretations

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/the-bottom-line-is-that-we-are-all.html


JULY 3, 2017


Laity could ask the bishop to provide them with FSSP priests who do not make irrational inferences and change the meaning of the Nicene Creed

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/laity-could-ask-bishop-to-provide-them.html


 JULY 3, 2017


FSSP church Santissima Trinita dei Pelligrini : new understanding of Nicene Creed

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/fssp-church-santissima-trinita-dei.html

JULY 2, 2017


Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.j made factual errors in two ITC theological papers which were politically correct

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-made-factual.html


JULY 1, 2017


Solemn Tridentine Rite Mass tomorrow with manifest sacrilege

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/solemn-tridentine-rite-mass-tomorrow.html

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JUNE 30, 2017


Tridentine Rite Mass in Rome is a sacrilege : needs to be challenged canonically

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/tridentine-rite-mass-in-rome-is.html

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JUNE 30, 2017


No priest in Rome will give his telephone number

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/no-priest-in-rome-will-give-his_30.html









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