Wednesday, June 14, 2017

Polish Ambassadors to Vatican and Italy ask the Vatican to correct the errors on Wikipedia


In a previous appeal to the Polish Ambassadors in Italy and the Vatican I mentioned the following five points.
1.The Comitato dell' Immacolata and other organizations need to ask the Polish Ambassadors to the Vatican and Italy if they can in general see people in Heaven.They will answer 'No".
2.Then ask them if they know of people on earth who will be saved outside the Catholic Church, without 'faith and baptism'.They will say "No".
3.Ask them if they know of any one on earth in 2017 who will be saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire ? They will reply "No".
4.Then ask them if they know of any one in particular who will be ( or is) an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), which says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.The ambassadors will say there are no practical exceptions.
5.So it is irrational to assume that invisible people are in general visible on earth ?. The entire embassy staff would agree,"Yes, it would be irrational", they would answer.
Then the Ambassadors were asked an ethical question : why do Catholics in Poland or Italy have to assume invisible people are visible exceptions to the dogma EENS ? Let them believe like the Polish saints that there are no practical exceptions.
Why do they have to interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS, when there can be no practical exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II and none in real life?
Why are all the religious communities in Poland being forced to accept Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS?
Should not the Vatican allow all religious communities in Poland and Italy, and the rest of the world, to accept and proclaim that Vatican Council II is not a rupture with EENS as it was known to St.Maximillian Kolbe,St. Stanislaus Kotska, St. Faustina Kowalska and the missionaries in the 16th century.
Should they not announce that the Franciscans of the Immaculate do not have to accept Vatican Council II as a rupture with the dogma EENS and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX(1864).
Could they clarify that outside the Church there is no known salvation in 2017.This is something obvious. So Pope Benedict XVI was wrong in 2016 when in Avvenire he said EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century, since there was ' a development' with Vatican Council II.
So could the ambassadors please ask the Vatican to stop the deception and lies on Vatican Council II and EENS and to affirm magisterial documents without the irrationality of invisible people being visible in 2017.1
Janusz Kotanski.
Here in this blog post I want to call their attention to the Vatican not correcting errors on Wikipedia about the Catholic Faith.Wikipedia is misleading on 'Salvation outside the church'.Here are some examples.

Salvation outside the church-Catholic Theology- WIKIPEDIA

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation.-Wkipedia on Catholic Theology
Lionel: 'Those who through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel...'and who are saved are personally unknown and invisible people in 2017. So they do not contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). Wikipedia infers that these cases are exceptions to EENS and the Vatican does not issue a correction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_theology


FR.LEONARD FEENEY -WIKIPEDIA
Father Leonard Edward Feeney (February 18, 1897 – January 30, 1978)[1] was a U.S. Jesuit priest, poet, lyricist, and essayist.
He articulated and defended a strict interpretation of the Roman Catholic doctrine, extra Ecclesiam nulla salus ("outside the Church there is no salvation"). He took the position that baptism of blood and baptism of desire are unavailing and that therefore no non-Catholics will be saved.2
Lionel: The Vatican must clarify here that the baptism of blood and the baptism of desire without the baptism of water ' are unavailing' they are zero cases in our reality as the apologist John Martignoni says. So they are not exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS. All non Catholics in 2017 are oriented to the fires of Hell with no exceptions unless they enter the Church with faith and the baptism of water.The Vatican however allows Wikipedia to promote this confusion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Feeney

One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic: Catholic Theology-Wikipedia
In Lumen gentium, the Catholic Church acknowledges that the Holy Spirit is active among the ecclesiastical communities separated from itself, though the Holy Spirit's work among them is to "impel towards Catholic unity" and thus bring them to salvation. The document also calls for ecumenical dialogue amongst all Christians.
Lionel: Here Wikipedia has ignored the visible-invisible distinction.This passage can be interpreted with Feeneyism (invisible cases are invisible) or Cushingism(invisible people are physically visible on earth). Wikipedia has chosen irrational Cushingism and the Vatican has not corrected this.
EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS -WIKIPEDIA
The Catholic Church also teaches that the doctrine(EENS) does not mean that everyone who is not visibly within the Church is necessarily damned in case of inculpable ignorance.-Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus on Wikipedia 3
Lionel: This is Cushingism again.Inculpable ignorance refers to known cases for Wikipedia. So everyone who is not visibly within the Church is not necessarily damned.
For me a Feeneyite, inculpable ignorance refers to unknown cases and so the dogmatic teaching on extra ecclesiam nulla salus stands.According to Father Stefano Visintin sdb, the present Vice Rector and former Dean of Theology at the University of St. Anselm, Rome, inculpable ignorance and the baptism of desire are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is something obvious. Yet the Vatican does not issue a correction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_Ecclesiam_nulla_salus
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So I repeat what I mentioned in the previous blog post:why do Catholics in Poland or Italy have to assume invisible people are visible exceptions to the dogma EENS ? Why does the Vatican not correct Wikipedia?
Why do Catholics have to interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS, when there can be no practical exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II and none in real life and Wikipedia says the opposite ?
Why are all the religious communities in Poland being forced to accept Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS and Wikipedia allowed to contribute to this confusion?
Should not the Vatican allow all religious communities in Poland and Italy, and the rest of the world, to accept and proclaim that Vatican Council II is not a rupture with EENS as it was known to St.Maximillian Kolbe,St. Stanislaus Kotska, St. Faustina Kowalska and the missionaries in the 16th century.? Ask the Vatican to correct the errors on Wikipedia.
Should they not announce that the Franciscans of the Immaculate do not have to accept Vatican Council II as a rupture with the dogma EENS and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX(1864) since the interpretation of Wikipedia is false on the Internet?
Could they clarify that outside the Church there is no known salvation in 2017.This is something obvious. So Pope Benedict XVI was wrong in 2016 when in Avvenire he said EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century, since there was ' a development' with Vatican Council II.Cardinal Ratzinger was making the same mistake as Wikipedia and did not correct the error on the Internet when he was the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
-Lionel Andrades




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June 13, 2017
President Andrzej Duda and Archbishop Salvatore Pennacchio. Photo: PAP/Jacek Turczyk
Polish Ambassadors to Vatican and Italy need to be asked about Franciscans of the Immaculate and rules for religious communities
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/polish-ambassadors-to-vatican-and-italy.html


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Wikipedia is misleading on Catholic theology

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/wikipedia-is-misleading-on-catholic.html


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JUNE 13, 2017


Wikipedia, liberal theologians and Cardinal Ratzinger made the wrong inference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/wikipedia-liberal-theologians-and.html

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July 18, 2014
Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson contradicts USCCB : the baptism of desire is not visible to us and so is not an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salushttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/archbishop-thomas-egullickson.html



Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishop-thomas-egullickson-says.html#links

JULY 18, 2014

OCTOBER 16, 2013


DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/dean-of-theology-at-st-anselm-says.html

CATHOLIC PRIESTS IN ROME AGREE WITH FR.LEONARD FEENEY: THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF

How can zero cases of something be considered exceptions ?- John Martignoni http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/sspx-only-way-out-now.html#links 

IRRESPECTIVE IF THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE RESULTS IN JUSTIFICATION OR JUSTIFICATON AND SALVATION IT IS NOT AN EXPLICIT EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/irrespective-if-baptism-of-desie.html#links

JOHN MARTIGNONI SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II IS IN AGREEMENT WITH EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND THE SYLLABUS: WHEN WILL THE SSPX AND THE VATICAN CURIA ACKNOWLEDGE IT? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/john-martigioni-says-vatican-council-ii.html#links

Implicit intention, invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) in Vatican Council II do not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus –John Martignoni http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/implicit-intention-invincible-ignorance.html#links

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Medugorje seers see fire in Hell : so did Sr. Lucia at Fatima, St.Faustina Kowalska, St.John Bosco, St. Veronica Giulliani, St. Teresa of Avila, Dante...

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Question: “Marija, have you ever seen hell?

Marija: “Yes, it’s a large space with a big sea of fire in the middle. There are many people there. I particularly noticed a beautiful young girl. But when she came near the fire, she was no longer beautiful. She came out of the fire like an animal; she was no longer human. The Blessed Mother told me that God gives us all choices. Everyone responds to these choices. Everyone can choose if he wants to go to hell or not. Anyone who goes to hell chooses hell.
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“…Before they go into the fire, they look like normal people. The more they are against God’s will, the deeper they enter into…”
Only four of the six visionaries saw hell. Our Lady gave Mirjana and Ivanka the choice whether or not to see hell and they chose against it. Ivan and Marija both saw a vision of hell and all that Ivan will state is that he prefers not to discuss it. Vicka and Jakov were physically taken to hell by Our Lady. The following, through several interviews of the visionaries, is a detailed description of hell.
Vicka: “We saw many people in hell. Many are there already, and many more will go there when they die…The Blessed Mother says that those people who are in hell are there because they chose to go there. They wanted to go to hell…We all know that there are persons on this earth who simply don’t admit that God exists, even though He helps them, gives them life and sun and rain and food. He always tries to nudge them onto the path of holiness. They just say they don’t believe, and they deny Him. They deny Him, even when it is time to die. And they continue to deny Him, after they are dead. It is their choice. It is their will that they go to hell. They choose hell.

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Question: “Describe hell as you remember it.

Vicka: “In the center of this place is a great fire, like an ocean of raging flames. We could see people before they went into the fire, and then we could see them coming out of the fire. Before they go into the fire, they look like normal people. The more they are against God’s will, the deeper they enter into the fire, and the deeper they go, the more they rage against Him. When they come out of the fire, they don’t have human shape anymore; they are more like grotesque animals, but unlike anything on earth. It’s as if they were never human beings before…They were horrible. Ugly. Angry. And each was different; no two looked alike…When they came out, they were raging and smashing everything around and hissing and gnashing and screeching.
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Question: “Has seeing hell changed how you pray?

Vicka: “”Oh, yes! Now I pray for the conversion of sinners! I know what awaits them if they refuse to convert.”

Vicka: “People turn away from God by choices they make. In this way they choose to enter the fire of hell where they burn away all connection to God. That’s why they can never get back to God. It takes God’s mercy to get back to Him. In hell, they no longer have access to God’s mercy…They choose to destroy their beauty and goodness. They choose to be ugly and horrible. People do this all the time. Each choice that is against God, God’s Commandments, God’s Will, singes God’s image in us…They become one with hell even while they have their body. At death they go on as they were when they had a body.”
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The following is what Marija has shared about hell:
Question: “Marija, how and why does a soul choose hell for himself for all eternity?

Marija: “In the moment of death, God gives us the light to see ourselves as we really are. God gives freedom of choice to everybody during his life on earth. The one who lives in sin on earth can see what he has done and recognize himself as he really is. When he sees himself and his life, the only possible place for him is hell. He chooses hell, because that is what he is. That is where he fits. It is his own wish. God does not make the choice. God condemns no one. We condemn ourselves. Every individual has free choice. God gave us freedom.
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Question: “Marija, what about people who grow up spiritually deceived, people who have been told that God does not exist, that there is no God?Marija: “People, as they grow up, can think. Everyone knows and can recognize what is good and what is bad by the time they grow up. God gives us freedom of choice. We can choose good or bad. Everybody chooses here in this life whether he goes to Heaven or hell.
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Question: “How do we choose Heaven or hell or Purgatory for ourselves?

Marija: “At the moment of death, God gives everyone the grace to see his whole life, to see what he has done, to recognize the results of his choices on earth. And each person, when he sees himself in the divine light of reality, chooses for himself where he belongs. Every individual chooses for himself what he personally deserves for all eternity.


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Jakov:
Question: “Jakov, did you see hell?

Jakov: “Yes.

Question: “Can you tell us about it?

Jakov: “Very seldom do I talk about hell…I choose not to think about hell. The self-chosen suffering there is beyond your ability to comprehend.

Question: “Does it cause you pain?

Jakov: “More than you can understand…Because no one needs to go to hell. It is the ultimate waste.

Question: “What can people do to keep from going to hell?

Jakov: “Believe in God, no matter what happens in a lifetime.”


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Argentinian Bishop Organizes Special Mass to Give Communion to Adulterous Couples, Cites Pope Francis

BREAKING: Argentinian Bishop Organizes Special Mass to Give Communion to Adulterous Couples, Cites Pope Francis

by the Spanish-language partners of Rorate, Adelante la Fe:

This past Sunday at the Parish Church of San Roque, Reconquista, Santa Fe (Argentina), the local bishop, Msgr. Macín, appointed by Pope Francis in 2013, carried out a monumental and sacrilegious scandal that clearly shows what's behind Amoris laetitia.

In this church he organized a solemn Mass, in which he publicly announced that according to the norms sent in a letter more than 6 months ago by Pope Francis, and within the framework of the integration of Christians who are "marginalized" because of their irregular situation of being divorced and remarried or in an irregular situation (the divorced in a new union), after having completed a period of 6 months of meetings on Saturdays called the "path of discernment", it was determined in accordance with what was previously stated (by order of the Pope) TO INCLUDE THEM IN FULL AND SACRAMENTAL COMMUNION, which would happen in the ceremony. At no point was mention made that those people had taken some vow of chastity or of living "as brothers [and sisters]."

In the same way, communion was given to all those mentioned (some 30 couples) accompanied by their relatives who took photos in a festive atmosphere. At no point was reference ever made to the Scriptures which condemn adultery, and again and again the excerpts of Amoris laetitia are mentioned where it is said that the divorced and remarried ought to be included in full communion.

This bishop, and all those who follow this type of directives and actions, are simply apostates, wolves dressed in sheep's clothing, who not only send souls to hell, but also profane the Eucharist, for which they will have to give an account before God.

This news is confirmed by Adelante La Fe through eyewitnesses and, if there is any doubt, can be cross-checked in the local news.

[Translated by Andrew Guernsey]

Photos of the ceremony


Notizia dell’ultim’ora: un vescovo argentino "comunione piena" per i divorziati risposati

 

Notizia dell’ultim’ora: un vescovo argentino "comunione piena" per i divorziati risposati

Il vescovo Ángel José Macín (50) di Reconquista, Argentina, ha presieduto domenica scorsa una Messa solenne nella parrocchia San Roque, Reconquista (Santa Fe, Argentina), durante la quale ha riammesso circa trenta coppie di divorziati e risposati …

https://gloria.tv/article/AVsr6sZ2z36P3UdeuS9EzHRHu

Vescovo attaccato dalla lobby gay: “Non smetterò di insegnare la dottrina cattolica”

 

Vescovo attaccato dalla lobby gay: “Non smetterò di insegnare la dottrina cattolica”

Tolleranza? Il vescovo è stato costretto a uscire dalla chiesa scortato dalla polizia a causa dell'aggressività dei manifestanti. it.aleteia.org/…/vescovo-attacca…


https://it.aleteia.org/2017/06/09/vescovo-attaccato-lobby-gay/

Sostenitore dell’ aborto nominato membro della Pontifica Accademia per la Vita


Sostenitore dell’ aborto nominato membro della Pontifica Accademia per la Vita

Papa Francesco ha nominato Nigel Biggar, apologo dell’aborto legale, come membro della Pontificia Accademia per la Vita, scrive il Catholic Herald.

Oggi è stato pubblicato un elenco di 45 nuovi membri dell'Accademia.

Biggar è professore di teologia morale e pastorale dell'Università di Oxford.

Nel 2011 ha sostenuto in una discussione con il filosofo Peter Singerin di ritenere accettabile l'aborto volontario entro la diciottesima settimana dal concepimento.

Nel suo libro "In Defence of War" (2014) [In difesa della guerra] Biggar sostenne che l'assalto statunitense all'Iraq fu una "guerra giusta".

Gli statuti dell'Accademia sono stati cambiati nel novembre 2016.
Il suo presidente, l'arcivescovo Vincenzo Paglia, ha dichiarato al riguardo: "L’orizzonte umanistico che ha a cuore il primato della dignità dell’uomo e della donna resta saldamente il cardine attorno a cui ruota l’attività di ricerca, come anche il coinvolgimento degli scienziati delle diverse aree religiose e culturali. Sarà una delle preoccupazioni che abbiamo davanti: coinvolgere anche studiosi non cattolici, ad esempio ortodossi, anglicani, protestanti, ma anche ebrei o induisti, buddisti, musulmani, i quali, all’interno di questa prospettiva umanistica, collaborino assieme per percorrere quelle delicatissime frontiere che decidono il futuro stesso dell’umanità, come ad esempio la questione del genoma, delle biotecnologie, della robotica…".
Il presupposto è che si riconosca come fondamento l'inviolabilità della vita umana e "tale orizzonte resta la condizione sine qua non per un dialogo effettivo e ravvicinato. L’Accademia vuole offrire il suo contributo per sostenere la ricerca in quella visione umanistica, che già in passato ha visto la Chiesa nel cuore stesso del processo scientifico. Credo che la volontà del Papa sia quella di non restare chiusi nel chiuso del proprio perimetro, ma di entrare nel cuore della società umana con quel patrimonio di ispirazione che permette di offrire un contributo positivo."
https://gloria.tv/article/j8pPwpHZhktM3MpZL1NJLjKoN