Friday, May 5, 2017

My interpretation of the Nicene Creed differs from that of Bishop Bernard Fellay and Bishop Alain Planet : they are irrational, non traditional and heretical

Image result for Photo of Bishop FellayImage result for Photo of Bishop Alain PlanetMy interpretation of the Nicene Creed differs from that of Bishop Bernard Fellay and the bishop in France who has opened his diocese for the SSPX, Alain Planet. For me,' I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins',refers to one known baptism the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. This baptism is physically visible and repeatable.There are no three or more known baptisms for me.I cannot see someone saved with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water.I do not know and cannot know, any one saved in 2017 without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. So I cannot know of any salvation outside the Church.There is no salvation outside the Church for me.
I cannot administer the baptism of blood ( martyrdom) to any one as I can administer the baptism of water.I do not know of any one who was saved or will be saved without the baptism of water and because ' God is not limited to the Sacraments'(CCC 1257).So there is only one known baptism for me it is the baptism of water. The Council of Trent calls it the laver of regeneration.
God from God, light from light, true God from true God, begotten not made :: South Texas Catholic (Corpus Christi, TX)
For Bishop Fellay and Bishop Alain Planet, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' means, 'I believe in three or more known baptisms and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.This is an American innovation in the Church, copyrighted in Boston and Baltimore.
For bishops Fellay and Planet there are personally known cases of the baptism of desire and blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, all without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.So there are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) which states all need to be members of the Church for salvation.It can be seen here why I lay stress on known and unknown baptisms of desire and blood and being saved in invincible ignorance.
1.They both accept the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the  Archbishop of Boston 1949 which brazenly inferred that the desire of an unknown catechumen and the theoretical and unknown person saved in invincible ignorance, were defacto, known exceptions to the dogma EENS as it was interpreted by Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St. Benedict Center.This was a rupture with St.Benedict or Norcia, St. Ignatius of Loyola, St. Francis Xavier, St.Theresa of Avila...and many popes.
2.They both assume Lumen Gentium 16 (invincible ignorance/ good conscience), Lumen Gentium 8(subsist it/ elements of sanctification and truth),Unitatitis Redintigratio 3 ( imperfect communion with the Church) etc refer to visible and known cases in the present times, people personally known. So they become explicit exceptions to the dogma EENS ( Feeneyite).
FOR THE TWO BISHOPS THERE ARE MANY KNOWN BAPTISMS
So for the two bishops there is not one known baptism,the baptism of water but many known baptisms.This is a common understanding of the Nicene Creed today.This is how they interpret, ' I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins'.For them this is the teaching of the Holy Spirit.It is, 'I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church...which teaches that there is not one known baptism for the forgiveness of sins but there are three or many more'.
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Obviously, this is not my interpretation of the Nicene Creed  or the Athanasius Creed , which says (unlike Fr.John Zuhlsdorf's version) outside the church there is no salvation.So every one needs the baptism of water in the Catholic Church for salvation and there is no known salvation outside the Church.There is only one way to Heaven, not two or more.
I call Bishop Bernard Fellay and Alain Planet's interpretation of the Creeds( Nicene, Athanasius etc), Cushingism.I call mine, Feeneyism.They are Cushingite Catholics and I am a Feeneyite Catholic.Our understanding of the Faith is different.For me they are heretics.Their theology and doctrines are new.The present innovative magisterium supports their heresy.
PLANET WELCOMES THE CHANGE FELLAY REJECTS IT
My theology is rational and doctrines traditional.They are inspired by the Holy Spirit.It is in harmony with the magisterium of the 16th century( unlike theirs) and neither is there a rupture between pre and post Vatican Council II salvation theology.In the present times we still have the ecclesiology of the past.For the two bishops it has changed.Planet welcomes the change and Fellay rejects it.Both use the same theology. It's foundation is invisible people are visible in the present times and in the past.So there can be visible cases of the baptism of desire,for them, which are explicit exceptions to the dogmatic teaching on all needing to be members of the Church for salvation.So for them there are known exceptions to even Jesus' teachings in the Bible.There are known exceptions to Mark 16:16(He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned ) and John 3:5( Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God ).
LAITY CAN FILE CANONICAL PETITIONS AGAINST THE TWO BISHOPS
The laity can file canonical petitions against the two bishops after the SSPX has canonical status.Since according to Canon Law a bishop must be able to affirm the Nicene Creed with rationality and in harmony with Sacred Tradition over the centuries.
Image result for pHOTO OF Cardinal RanjitCANONICAL PETITION ALSO AGAINST CARDINAL RANJIT
The same petition can be filed in the archdiocese of Cardinal Malcolm Ranjit in Sri Lanka, who has welcomed the SSPX to teach at his seminary.Cardinal Ranjit, a Cushingite like Cardinal Ratzinger, once told me some 15 years back at his Propaganda Fide office, Pizza Spagna,that the Syllabus of Errors was no more applicable for today.He said it with great confidence over the table.I kept quiet.This was also the view of Pope Benedict and the officials of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.They ignored the 150th anniversary of the Syllabus of Errors since Vatican Council II and the Letter of the Holy Office contradicted the dogma EENS ( Feeneyite) and so also the Syllabus of Errors.
-Lionel Andrades

May 4, 2017
Canon Law would also apply in future to the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) in the diocese of Bishop Alain Planet, bishop of Carcassonne,France
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/05/canon-law-would-also-apply-in-future-to.html

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Vatican Council II would contradict the Syllabus of Errors for the Vatican Curia, SSPX, SBC and sedevacantists.Since for them LG 16 refers to objective cases

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/07/vatican-council-ii-would-contradict.html 

Vatican Council II (UR ,DH) would contradict Mortalium Animos, Quanta Cura, Syllabus of Errors only if B is an exception to A

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/07/vatican-council-ii-ur-dh-would.html


If Pope Francis approves of it. He will issue a Syllabus of Errors in which we continue to intepret Vatican Council II with LG 16 an exception to EENS ? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/07/pope-francis-approves-of-it-he-will.html

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Without the Marchetti inference Vatican Council II does not contradict the Syllabus of Errors
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/without-marchetti-inference-vatican.html

The 150th anniversary of the Syllabus of Errors is not being celebrated in the Catholic Church since the CDF assumes there are known exceptions to Pope Pius IX in Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/01/the-150-anniversary-of-syllabus-of.html

ARCHBISHOP,CATHOLIC PRIESTS AND LAY APOLOGIST SAY VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS : "We don't know any case of the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance.Only Jesus can judge"


WIKIPEDIA SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II CONTRADICTS EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND THE SSPX AND THE VATICAN DO NOT PROTEST


Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson has said that the Society of St.Pius X must know that adherence to Vatican Council II and the Catechism does not put them at odds with Tradition.
 

Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors

 

Here are Catholic priests with the same message,contrary to Wikipedia.
WE DO NOT KNOW ANYONE SAVED WITH THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE OR INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO ENTER THE CHURCH AS DON BOSCO TAUGHT- Salesian Rector and Parish priest in Rome

VATICAN COUNCIL II AFFIRMS CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS- Fr. Davide Carbonaro
Its a mortal sin to deny the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It is a sacrilege to receive the Eucharist in this condition- Fr. Gabrielle, priest of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate
 

THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF- Fr.George Puthoor
 

THERE IS NO DE FACTO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE KNOW OF-Fr. Masimilliano dei Gaspari F. I
 

MONS.IGNACIO BARREIRO CARAMBULA, INTERIM PRESIDENT,HUMAN LIFE INTERNATIONAL,USA SAYS "We don't know any case of the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance.Only Jesus can judge"
 

 
FR.TULLIO ROTONDO AFFIRMS CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS