Tuesday, March 14, 2017

How can there be Muslim-Catholic dialogue when the Catholic side does not proclaim the truths of the Catholic faith : According to Vatican Council II all Muslims are on the way to Hell (AG 7, LG 14).No one says this in dialogue

Sayyid Syeed ,represents the Islamic Society of North America.On the USCCB  video refers to Vatican Council II and Nostra Aetate in Muslim-Catholic dialogue and does not mention that Vatican Council II ( without the irrational premise) would be saying that he and all Muslims need to enter the Catholic Church to avoid the fires of the Hell.He interprets Vatican Council II like the political Left. In the video he has said that Catholics have preserved their identity when instead  Catholics are forced by 'the Jewish Left magisterium' to interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational premise to create a non traditional conclusion which they approve.

Catholic priests and professors all over the world do not have the freedom to interpret Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus , without an irrational premise. Approved by the Masons, they have to claim that invisible for us baptism of desire is visible and exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. No one has seen any such case. Yet Catholics have to given up their identity and proclaim this lie in public.

He does not mention that according to Muslim theology there is exclusive salvation in Islam .According to the Al Azhar University and the main Islamic centres including that of Pakistan where he has been to, as mentioned in the video, the popes and all Catholics are oriented to Hell.
The Islamic Societies in Pakistan and those in the USA interpret the interpret the Quran  with Tradition( Hadith) as saying all non Muslims are on the way to Hell.This would be his belief too and the Islamic seminaries and imams in the USA.They do not open their mosques and institutions where Catholics can preach or talk freely about the Islamic religion.He mentions that Catholics have opened their church for Muslims to come and pray. 
According to Vatican Council II ( without the irrational premise) all Muslims need faith and baptism for salvation ( AG 7, LG 14). This is a teaching that Catholics do not have the freedom to proclaim any more. 
No where in Nostra Aetate, Vatican Council II is it said that Muslims do not need to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation and neither is it said that Muslims are not going to Hell. Before Nostra Aetate Catholics were helping and serving all people because this is what Jesus asks of us. He asks us to love everyone.There was inter-faith dialogue in the dialogue of life among people, before Vatican Council II, which has factual errors in it, it is now discovered and the USCCB is not talking about it.
Sayyid Syeed perhaps out of ignorance presents only one version of Vatican Council II, the irrational one which makes the Council a break with the past.
He says Catholics themselves were going through a transformation. He means that an irrational premise was being used by the liberal religious leaders of the Catholic Church, to project the Council as a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
How can there be Muslim-Catholic dialogue when the Catholic side does not proclaim the truths of the Catholic faith. According to Vatican Council II all Muslims are on the way to Hell (AG 7, LG 14).No one is saying this in 'dialogue'.-Lionel Andrades


MARCH 13, 2017

Muslims and Protestants could help bring sincerity in inter religous dialogue for Catholics http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/muslims-and-protestants-could-help.html


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