Friday, March 10, 2017

University of Nottingham professor maintains invisible cases are visible : irrational inference not professional or ethical

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A University of Nottingham, U.K professor of theology still maintains that there are visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and so it never was absolutist.The professor is implying that we can physically see people in Heaven.They are a part of our visual reality and they are saved without being members of the Catholic Church. Or, he knows of  people on earth who will be saved outside the Church; without faith and the baptism of water.
Where are these exceptions ? I cannot see and meet any.
How could someone in the past see or meet someone in Heaven saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water and then come to tell us about it ? Does the Church recognise that there was some such a person on earth? No.
But invisible cases are visible for Prof.Tom O'Loughlin.
Without this inference ( invisible cases are visible) he could be out of his leftist university and without a job.
So the professor maintains invisible cases are visible, this is his philosophy.It is rational for him.He maintains the lie.
Continuing Professional Development
So based up on this new philosophy, his new theology says that there is known salvation outside the Church. The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is not absolutist. There is a new version of the dogma, with the new theology, with Cushingism.
IRRATIONAL PHILOSOPHY AND THEOLOGY
1.He uses an irrational philosophy and theology to create a non traditional conclusion and this is not ethical for him.It is not a problem.
IRRATIIONAL PHILOSOPHY AND THEOLOGY EXPRESSED IN VATICAN COUNCIL II
2.At Vatican Council II the Council Fathers also used this irrational philosophy and theology. He does not want to point it out. He simply repeats it.He supports the error. At Vatican Council II and the Holy Office 1949 they also like the British professor mistook hypothetical cases as not being hypothetical.So their inference and the conclusion was non traditional. It was a rupture with Tradition.The professor keeps this hidden.
HE WELCOMES THE ERROR IN VATICAN COUNCIL II
3.This is a mistake by human beings in Vatican Council II and cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit. He makes the same objective mistake and does not correct the human error in Vatican Council. In fact he welcomes it. This is unethical.He does not mention that there is a rational alternative interpretation of Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. 
WITHOUT THE IRRATIONAL PREMISE THERE IS ONLY THE OLD ECUMENISM
4.The new ecumenism is based on the irrational premise.Without it there is the old ecclesiocentrism.So there can only be the old ecumenism of return.The professor does not mention this. This would be deception.Since he has been informed.
OBJECTIVE MISTAKE IN THE FR.LEONARD FEENEY CASE
5.There was an objective mistake made in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and also in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case. Like the professor, the Letter from the Holy Office(CDF) in 1949 assumed that there were known exceptions to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is a factual mistake. It is a fact of life that we cannot see people in Heaven saved with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water.
BAPTISM OF DESIRE AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE ARE NOT RELEVANT TO EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
It is a fact of life that we cannot judge and say that someone on earth will be saved without the baptism of water and instead with the baptism of desire.
Similarly if there is any one saved in invincible ignorance it would only be known to God.So it can be only a speculative and hypothetical case, for us humans. It is not a concrete person.So it is not relevant to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus, as it was known to the 16th century missionaries.For Prof. Tom O'Loughlin it is relevant.This non existing person exists in reality.
VATICAN COUNCIL II IN HARMONY WITH THE STRICT INTERPRETATION OF EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS6. He does not say that extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( without the premise) and Vatican Council II ( without the premise) are in harmony. Both these magisterial documents support the 'strict interpretation', the 'rigorist interpretation' of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Both these Church documents  tell us that all Jews and Muslims, besides other non Catholics, need to convert into the Catholic Church as members, to avoid the fires of Hell and there are no known exceptions in 2017.
THIS IS NOT THE TEACHING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
So the professor on the video has calumniated Fr. Leonard Feeney and has not clarified that the reasoning in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and Vatican Council II (LG 14, AG 7 etc which mention the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance ) are wrong. This is human error. It is not the teaching of the Holy Spirit or the magisterium of the past. So an injustice was done to the American Jesuit,mentioned on the video.
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DECEPTION AND LIE 
The University of Nottingham professor maintains a deception and lie. This is dishonest, unethical and not Catholic.It is also not professional for a university professor in England.- Lionel Andrades





MARCH 10, 2017

For the English bishops and the Masons there is only EENS Cushingite.This is how they interpret EENS historically.They have created a new extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/for-english-bishops-and-masons-there-is.html



March 8, 2017
No denial from Archbishop Kevin Mcdonald, Tom O' Loughlin : there is an objective error in the text of Vatican Council II  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/no-denial-from-archbishop-kevin.html


MARCH 10, 2017


For the English bishops and the Masons there is only EENS Cushingite.This is how they interpret EENS historically.They have created a new extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/for-english-bishops-and-masons-there-is.html


March 9, 2017

The dogma is absolutist and we do not know any one who is saved or going to be saved in another religionhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/the-dogma-is-absolutist-and-we-do-not.html


MARCH 4, 2017
English universities present a lie on Catholic theology and doctrine - unethical for academics http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/english-universities-present-lie-on.html


MARCH 3, 2017
Adult Catholic tells lies on Internet


MARCH 9, 2017

The dogma is absolutist and we do not know any one who is saved or going to be saved in another religion.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/the-dogma-is-absolutist-and-we-do-not.html

MARCH 8, 2017

English universities tell a lie and no priest objects

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/english-universities-tell-lie-and-no.html

MARCH 4, 2017

English universities present a lie on Catholic theology and doctrine - unethical for academics

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/english-universities-present-lie-on.html



 MARCH 3, 2017


Gaudium et Specs 22 does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus : English bishop tells a lie

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/gaudium-et-specs-22-does-not-contradict.html

MARCH 2, 2017


English bishop indicates pope was wrong

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/english-bishop-indicates-pope-was-wrong.html

 MARCH 2, 2017


English liberal bishop uses straw man arguement

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/english-liberal-bishop-uses-straw-man.html


MARCH 1, 2017


English Bishop interprets Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus with irrational Cushingism

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/english-bishop-interprets-vatican.html




The Bible Teaches That Few Are Saved

The Bible Teaches That Few Are Saved

For the English bishops and the Masons there is only EENS Cushingite.This is how they interpret EENS historically.They have created a new extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

(1:16) "Extra ecclesiam nulla salus, black and white...it is not black and white.My understanding is that when the phrase was first used in the Patristic Period..."
Lionel:
He means that when the phrase was first used it was Cushingite and not Feeneyite.There were visible exceptions of non Catholics saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.This is irrational. It is not Patristic or traditional.
It is heresy.It is non traditional and organised deception.
So the liberals and Masons have created a new extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).It is EENS Cushingite.
EENS Cushingite is different from the traditional EENS Feeneyite, as it was known in the 16th century.
So now there is no more only one way to interpret EENS.
There is EENS in which there are visible cases of the baptism of desire (BOD) and being saved invincible ignorance(I.I) without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.So all do not need to be members of the Catholic Church.
Then there is also the traditional EENS (Feeneyite) with invisible cases of the BOD and I.I which are not exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church and all need  to be members.
For the English Archbishop and the Masons there is only EENS Cushingite.This is how they interpret EENS historically.
-Lionel Andrades

Theologians in Conversation; Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
https://youtu.be/HrEnMM6aAv0



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March 8, 2017
No denial from Archbishop Kevin Mcdonald, Tom O' Loughlin : there is an objective error in the text of Vatican Council II  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/no-denial-from-archbishop-kevin.html
Continuing Professional Development
March 9, 2017
The dogma is absolutist and we do not know any one who is saved or going to be saved in another religion. http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/the-dogma-is-absolutist-and-we-do-not.html


MARCH 4, 2017
English universities present a lie on Catholic theology and doctrine - unethical for academics http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/english-universities-present-lie-on.html


MARCH 3, 2017
Adult Catholic tells lies on Internet
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/adult-catholic-tells-lies-on-internet.html

March 7, 2017
There is no Christian theology of religious pluralism : Masons, Pope Benedict and Pope Francis are wrong  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/there-is-no-christian-theology-of.html

“The fast is the weapon of protection against demons,” taught St. Basil the Great. “Our Guardian Angels more really stay with those who have cleansed our souls through fasting.”

What's the point of fasting, anyway?

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God commanded it, Jesus practiced it, Church Fathers have preached the importance of it – fasting is a powerful and fundamental part of the Christian life.

But for many Catholics today, it's more of an afterthought: something we grudgingly do on Good Friday, perhaps on Ash Wednesday if remember it. Would we fast more, especially during Lent, if we understood how helpful it is for our lives?

The answer to this, say both saints of the past and experts today, is a resounding “yes.”

“Let us take for our standard and for our example those that have run the race, and have won,” said Deacon Sabatino Carnazzo, founding executive director of the Institute of Catholic Culture and a deacon at Holy Transfiguration Melkite Greek Catholic Church in Mclean, Va., of the saints.

“And...those that have run the race and won have been men and women of prayer and fasting.”

So what, in essence, is fasting?

It's “the deprivation of the good, in order to make a decision for a greater good,” explained Deacon Carnazzo. It is most commonly associated with abstention from food, although it can also take the form of giving up other goods like comforts and entertainment.

The current fasting obligation for Latin Catholics in the United States is this: all over the age of 14 must abstain from meat on Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, and all Fridays in Lent. On Ash Wednesday and Good Friday, adults age 18 to 59 must fast – eating no more than one full meal and two smaller meals that together do not add up in quantity to the full meal.

Catholics, “if possible,” can continue the Good Friday fast through Holy Saturday until the Easter Vigil, the U.S. Catholic Bishops Conference adds.

Other Fridays throughout the year (aside from Friday within the Octave of Easter) “are penitential days and times throughout the entire Church,” according to Canon Law 1250. Catholics once abstained from meat on all Fridays, but the U.S. bishops received permission from the Holy See for Catholics to substitute another sacrifice or perform an act of charity instead.

Eastern Rite Catholics, meanwhile, follow the fasting laws of their own particular church.

In their 1966 “Pastoral Statement on Penance and Abstinence,” the National Conference of Catholic Bishops exhorted the faithful, on other days of Lent where fasting is not required, to “participation in daily Mass and a self-imposed observance of fasting.”

Aside from the stipulations, though, what's the point of fasting?

“The whole purpose of fasting is to put the created order and our spiritual life in a proper balance,” Deacon Carnazzo said.

As “bodily creatures in a post-fallen state,” it's easy to let our “lower passions” for physical goods supersede our higher intellect, he explained. We take good things for granted and reach for them whenever we feel like it, “without thinking, without reference to the One Who gives us the food, and without reference to the question of whether it’s good for us or not,” he added.
Thus, fasting helps “make more room for God in our life,” Monsignor Charles Pope, pastor of Holy Comforter/St. Cyprian Catholic Church in Washington, D.C. said.
“And the Lord said at the well, with the (Samaritan) woman, He said that 'everyone that drinks from this well is going to be thirsty again. Why don't you let me go to work in your life and I’ll give you a fountain welling up to Eternal Life.'”

While fasting can take many forms, is abstaining from food especially important?

“The reason why 2000 years of Christianity has said food (for fasting), because food's like air. It's like water, it's the most fundamental,” Deacon Carnazzo said. “And that's where the Church says 'stop right here, this fundamental level, and gain control there.' It's like the first step in the spiritual life.”

What the Bible says about it


Yet why is fasting so important in the life of the Church? And what are the roots of the practice in Scripture?

The very first fast was ordered by God to Adam in the Garden of Eden, Deacon Carnazzo noted, when God instructed Adam and Eve not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil (Genesis 2:16-17).

This divine prohibition was not because the tree was bad, the deacon clarified. It was “made good” like all creation, but its fruit was meant to be eaten “in the right time and the right way.” In the same way, we abstain from created goods so we may enjoy them “in the right time and the right way.”

Fasting is also good because it is submission to God, he said. By fasting from the fruit of the tree, Adam and Eve would have become partakers in the Divine Nature through their obedience to God. Instead, they tried to take this knowledge of good and evil for themselves and ate the fruit, disobeying God and bringing Original Sin, death, and illness upon mankind.

At the beginning of His ministry, Jesus abstained from food and water for 40 days and nights in the desert and thus “reversed what happened in the Garden of Eden,” Deacon Carnazzo explained. Like Adam and Eve, Christ was tempted by the devil but instead remained obedient to God the Father, reversing the disobedience of Adam and Eve and restoring our humanity.

Following the example of Jesus, Catholics are called to fast, said Fr. Lew. And the Church Fathers preached the importance of fasting.

Why fasting is so powerful

“The fast is the weapon of protection against demons,” taught St. Basil the Great. “Our Guardian Angels more really stay with those who have cleansed our souls through fasting.”
Why is fasting so powerful? “By setting aside this (created) realm where the devil works, we put ourselves into communion with another realm where the devil does not work, he cannot touch us,” Deacon Carnazzo explained.

It better disposes us for prayer, noted Monsignor Pope. Because we feel greater hunger or thirst when we fast from food and water, “it reminds us of our frailty and helps us be more humble,” he said. “Without humility, prayer and then our experience of God really can't be unlocked.”

Thus, the practice is “clearly linked by St. Thomas Aquinas, writing within the Tradition, to chastity, to purity, and to clarity of mind,” noted Fr. Lew.

“You can kind of postulate from that that our modern-day struggles with the virtue of chastity, and perhaps a lack of clarity in theological knowledge, might be linked to an abandonment of fasting as well.”

A brief history of fasting


The current fasting obligations were set in the 1983 Code of Canon Law, but in previous centuries, the common fasts among Catholics were stricter and more regularly observed.

Catholics abstained from meat on all Fridays of the year, Easter Friday excluded. During Lent, they had to fast – one meatless meal and two smaller meatless meals – on all days excluding Sunday, the day of the Resurrection. They abstained from meat on Fridays and Saturdays in Lent – the days of Christ's death and lying in the tomb – but were allowed meat during the main meal on the other Lenten weekdays.

The obligations extended to other days of the liturgical year. Catholics fasted and abstained on the vigils of Christmas and Pentecost Sunday, and on Ember Days – the Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday after the Feast of St. Lucy on Dec. 13, after Ash Wednesday, after Pentecost Sunday, and after the Feast of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross in September – corresponding with the four seasons.

In centuries past, the Lenten abstention was more austere. Catholics gave up not only meat but also animal products like milk and butter, as well as oil and even fish at times.

Why are today's obligations in the Latin Rite so minimal? The Church is setting clear boundaries outside of which one cannot be considered to be practicing the Christian life, Deacon Carnazzo explained. That is why intentionally violating the Lenten obligations is a mortal sin.

But should Catholics perform more than the minimum penance that is demanded? Yes, said Fr. Lawrence Lew, O.P., who is currently studying for a Pontifical License in Sacred Theology at the Dominican House of Studies in Washington, D.C.

The minimum may be “what is due to God out of justice,” he explained, but we are “called not only to be just to God,” but also “to love God and to love our neighbor.” Charity, he added, “would call us to do more than just the minimum that is applied to us by the Code of Canon Law today, I think.”

In Jeremiah 31: 31-33, God promises to write His law upon our hearts, Deacon Carnazzo noted. We must go beyond following a set of rules and love God with our hearts, and this involves doing more than what we are obliged to do, he added.

Be wary of your motivation


However, Fr. Lew noted, fasting “must be stirred up by charity.” A Catholic should not fast out of dieting or pride, but out of love of God.

“It’s always dangerous in the spiritual life to compare yourself to other people,” he said, citing the Gospel of John where Jesus instructed St. Peter not to be concerned about the mission of St. John the Apostle but rather to “follow Me.” (John 21: 20-23).

In like manner, we should be focused on God during Lent and not on the sacrifices of others, he said.

“We will often fail, I think. And that’s not a bad thing. Because if we do fail, this is the opportunity to realize our utter dependence on God and His grace, to seek His mercy and forgiveness, and to seek His strength so that we can grow in virtue and do better,” he added.

And by realizing our weakness and dependence on God, we can “discover anew the depths of God’s mercy for us” and can be more merciful to others, he added.

Giving up good things may seem onerous and burdensome, but can – and should – a Catholic fast with joy?

“It’s referred to in the preface of Lent as a joyful season,” Fr. Lew said. “And it’s the joy of deepening our relationship with Christ, and therefore coming closer to Him. It’s the joy of loving Him more, and the more we love God the closer we draw to Him.”

“Lent is all about the Cross, and eventually the resurrection,” said Deacon Carnazzo. If we “make an authentic, real sacrifice for Christ” during Lent, “we can come to that day of the crucifixion and say 'Yes Lord, I willingly with you accept the cross. And when we do that, then we will behold the third day of resurrection.'”

This article was originally published on EWTN News Feb. 20, 2016.
 
 

Medugorje : Our Lady's call to fast

October 31, 2016

Medugorje : Our Lady's call to fast


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"I would like the people to pray along with me these days. And to pray as much as possible! And to fast strictly on Wednesdays and Fridays, and every day to pray at least one Rosary: the joyful, sorrowful and glorious mysteries." August 14, 1984


"Dear children! Today I call you especially now to advance against Satan by means of prayer. Satan wants to work still more now that you know he is at work. Dear children, put on the armor for battle and with the Rosary in your hand defeat him! Thank you for having responded to my call." August 8, 1985


"Dear children! Today I call you to begin to pray the Rosary with a living faith. That way I will be able to help you. You, dear children, wish to obtain graces, but you are not praying. I am not able to help you because you do not want to get started. Dear children, I am calling you to pray the Rosary and that your Rosary be an obligation which you shall fulfill with joy. That way you shall understand the reason I am with you this long. I desire to teach you to pray. Thank you for having responded to my call." June 12, 1986
 
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"You know that I love you and am coming here out of love, so I could show you the path of peace and salvation for your souls. I want you to listen to me and not permit Satan to seduce you. Dear children, Satan is strong enough! Therefore, I ask you to dedicate your prayers so that those who are under his influence may be saved. Give witness by your life, sacrifice your lives for the salvation of the world. Therefore, little children, do not be afraid. If you pray, Satan cannot injure you, not even a little, because you are God's children and He is watching over you. Pray, and let the Rosary always be in your hands as a sign to Satan that you belong to me." (February 25, 1989)


Lenten fasting bread from MedjugorieMedjugorje Lenten Bread. Fridays are a traditional day to fast with bread and water.


http://www.medjugorjelive.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11870
http://www.medjugorjeusa.org/fastingmessage.htm
http://www.medjugorje.org/livingmessages.htm#fasting
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'When someone virtuous turns away from virtue to commit iniquity, and dies'- Ez 18:21-28 (Friday of the First Week of Lent)

March 10, 2017


Friday of the First Week of Lent
Lectionary: 228


Reading 1 Ez 18:21-28

Thus says the Lord GOD:
If the wicked man turns away from all the sins he committed,
if he keeps all my statutes and does what is right and just,
he shall surely live, he shall not die.
None of the crimes he committed shall be remembered against him;
he shall live because of the virtue he has practiced.
Do I indeed derive any pleasure from the death of the wicked?
says the Lord GOD.
Do I not rather rejoice when he turns from his evil way
that he may live?

And if the virtuous man turns from the path of virtue to do evil,
the same kind of abominable things that the wicked man does,
can he do this and still live?
None of his virtuous deeds shall be remembered,
because he has broken faith and committed sin;
because of this, he shall die
.
You say, "The LORD's way is not fair!"
Hear now, house of Israel:
Is it my way that is unfair, or rather, are not your ways unfair?
When someone virtuous turns away from virtue to commit iniquity, and dies,
it is because of the iniquity he committed that he must die.
But if the wicked, turning from the wickedness he has committed,
does what is right and just,
he shall preserve his life;
since he has turned away from all the sins that he committed,
he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Responsorial Psalm Ps 130:1-2, 3-4, 5-7a, 7bc-8

R. (3) If you, O Lord, mark iniquities, who can stand?
Out of the depths I cry to you, O LORD;
LORD, hear my voice!
Let your ears be attentive
to my voice in supplication.
R. If you, O Lord, mark iniquities, who can stand?
If you, O LORD, mark iniquities,
LORD, who can stand?
But with you is forgiveness,
that you may be revered.
R. If you, O Lord, mark iniquities, who can stand?
I trust in the LORD;
my soul trusts in his word.
My soul waits for the LORD
more than sentinels wait for the dawn.
Let Israel wait for the LORD.
R. If you, O Lord, mark iniquities, who can stand?
For with the LORD is kindness
and with him is plenteous redemption;
And he will redeem Israel
from all their iniquities.
R. If you, O Lord, mark iniquities, who can stand?

Verse Before the Gospel Ez 18:31

Cast away from you all the crimes you have committed, says the LORD,
and make for yourselves a new heart and a new spirit.

Gospel Mt 5:20-26

Jesus said to his disciples:
"I tell you,
unless your righteousness surpasses that
of the scribes and Pharisees,
you will not enter into the Kingdom of heaven.

"You have heard that it was said to your ancestors,
You shall not kill; and whoever kills will be liable to judgment.
But I say to you, whoever is angry with his brother
will be liable to judgment,
and whoever says to his brother, Raqa,
will be answerable to the Sanhedrin,
and whoever says, 'You fool,' will be liable to fiery Gehenna.
Therefore, if you bring your gift to the altar,
and there recall that your brother
has anything against you,
leave your gift there at the altar,
go first and be reconciled with your brother,
and then come and offer your gift.
Settle with your opponent quickly while on the way to court.
Otherwise your opponent will hand you over to the judge,
and the judge will hand you over to the guard,
and you will be thrown into prison.
Amen, I say to you,
you will not be released until you have paid the last penny."

 
 
1874 To choose deliberately - that is, both knowing it and willing it - something gravely contrary to the divine law and to the ultimate end of man is to commit a mortal sin. This destroys in us the charity without which eternal beatitude is impossible. Unrepented, it brings eternal death. -Catechism of the Catholic Church
 
 
There was a fellow named Bill who was a drug user and heavy alcoholic, drinking morning till night — while somehow holding a job in construction. He had a wife and kids. But he grew so desperate — so deranged — he decided to kill himself.The night before his planned suicide, after saying prayers with his children — acting as if all was normal — he fell asleep and lapsed into an incredible “dream.” Was it really a dream, or a preview? (You can watch his testimony below.)
“All of a sudden, I’m in hell,” said Bill. “When I say ‘hell,’ I mean this cave. The cave is humongus — I can’t even describe it. Over to my left there’s like this two-mile-wide crater, with orange, yellowish, reddish flames coming up and the screams are millions at a time, and the thought that hit my head was, that’s where Hitler is, that’s where a lot of people leading people to death are.
“Where I was was on this, like, ledge. There were two cave entrances there. I didn’t go into them but I could see them. There were demons and people screaming all over. A demon would grab my arm and pull and rip my arm off where I’d see the veins hanging and the skin and the blood. He’d pull it off and a couple second later it would be back on again and he would do the same thing all over again, looking at me, laughing, because he just wants to see the fear and fright on my face.
“In front of me stood — the only thing I can describe it as is a monster: like four feet wide, huge shoulders, with huge claws and he would just go like this and wham, hit me and rip my stomach, and my whole insides would fall out. [The demons] were content to do this forever. You absolutely knew that in your heart. The chaos for me was the separation from God. I could pray all I want but I couldn’t get my prayers up to him. It’s over.”
http://spiritdaily.org/blog/afterlife/catholic-beyond-death-experience

TORTURED IN HELL, LIVED TO TELL (FULL) [SUICIDE, NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE, JESUS]
https://youtu.be/wT2YlZORFFI


"It's All True" Dave's Visit to Heaven - FULL TALK
https://youtu.be/GDTnxCOHiWs


 
If you, O Lord, mark iniquities, who can stand?
https://youtu.be/NnqCNTbX2Oc

If you, O Lord, mark iniquities, who can stand?
https://youtu.be/9msmnzeKXUA