Tuesday, September 19, 2017

Ann Barnhardt, Chris Ferrara's reasoning seem rational but their premises and so inferences are wrong

Ann Barnhardt writes that a person could die at the last moment and be saved.Sorry Feeneyite. Move over Fr. Leonard Feeney you are wrong, she said sometime back.
Otherwise she mentions thinking clearly and keeping the premises correct on her blog.
She does not know any one on earth who was on the way to Hell but this person, during the last
breath comes back to God and so is saved .Yet she mentions this with reference to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS.
The dogma EENS (Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 etc) says all need to be members of the Catholic Church to avoid the fires of Hell.There were no exceptions for the Church Councils.How can Ann's theoretical case be an exception to the dogma EENS?
Her premise is that this person who came back to Christ at the last breathe and asked for forgiveness was a visible and known person.Then her conclusion is that this invisible case which was visible for her was an exception to Feeneyite EENS.

This is the reasoning of her pope, Benedict XVI. He said last year that EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century. There was a development with Vatican Council II. For him LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to visible cases, like the example given by Ann. These invisible- for- us people are visible exceptions to EENS. Vatican Council II, of course, contradicts EENS for Pope Benedict and Ann Barnhardt. Their premises and inferences are the same.The Council is a development for both of them.
It is not a development for me since LG 16, like the unknown case of the man or woman who converts on his or her death bed and is saved, is unknown for us. It can only be known to God. We can only know about it when we are in Heaven.
The ordinary means of salvation is 'faith and baptism', membership in the Catholic Church.Speculation with good will is not an exception to the dogma EENS.Probabilities and hypothetical cases are not concrete exceptions to EENS in 2017.
This is the irrational reasoning of those who follow Archbishop Lefebvre.Hilary White could never understand how invisible for us BOD, BOB and I.I could not be a visible exception to EENS. This was how she reasoned and interpreted the Council.
Michal Matt announces that if any one says there is an easy interpretation to Vatican Council II and it is different from the one we know reject him.So he does not permit me to discuss this issue. For him it is rational to assume theoretical cases, like the one cited by Ann, are concrete cases.
Based on this irrationality Chris Ferrara wrote his book ,The Great Facade and no one complained.His reasoning seems rational, but like Ann Barnhardt his premises were wrong
.-Lionel Andrades

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