Wednesday, June 14, 2017

Polish Ambassadors to Vatican and Italy ask the Vatican to correct the errors on Wikipedia


In a previous appeal to the Polish Ambassadors in Italy and the Vatican I mentioned the following five points.
1.The Comitato dell' Immacolata and other organizations need to ask the Polish Ambassadors to the Vatican and Italy if they can in general see people in Heaven.They will answer 'No".
2.Then ask them if they know of people on earth who will be saved outside the Catholic Church, without 'faith and baptism'.They will say "No".
3.Ask them if they know of any one on earth in 2017 who will be saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire ? They will reply "No".
4.Then ask them if they know of any one in particular who will be ( or is) an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), which says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.The ambassadors will say there are no practical exceptions.
5.So it is irrational to assume that invisible people are in general visible on earth ?. The entire embassy staff would agree,"Yes, it would be irrational", they would answer.
Then the Ambassadors were asked an ethical question : why do Catholics in Poland or Italy have to assume invisible people are visible exceptions to the dogma EENS ? Let them believe like the Polish saints that there are no practical exceptions.
Why do they have to interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS, when there can be no practical exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II and none in real life?
Why are all the religious communities in Poland being forced to accept Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS?
Should not the Vatican allow all religious communities in Poland and Italy, and the rest of the world, to accept and proclaim that Vatican Council II is not a rupture with EENS as it was known to St.Maximillian Kolbe,St. Stanislaus Kotska, St. Faustina Kowalska and the missionaries in the 16th century.
Should they not announce that the Franciscans of the Immaculate do not have to accept Vatican Council II as a rupture with the dogma EENS and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX(1864).
Could they clarify that outside the Church there is no known salvation in 2017.This is something obvious. So Pope Benedict XVI was wrong in 2016 when in Avvenire he said EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century, since there was ' a development' with Vatican Council II.
So could the ambassadors please ask the Vatican to stop the deception and lies on Vatican Council II and EENS and to affirm magisterial documents without the irrationality of invisible people being visible in 2017.1
Janusz Kotanski.
Here in this blog post I want to call their attention to the Vatican not correcting errors on Wikipedia about the Catholic Faith.Wikipedia is misleading on 'Salvation outside the church'.Here are some examples.

Salvation outside the church-Catholic Theology- WIKIPEDIA

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation.-Wkipedia on Catholic Theology
Lionel: 'Those who through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel...'and who are saved are personally unknown and invisible people in 2017. So they do not contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). Wikipedia infers that these cases are exceptions to EENS and the Vatican does not issue a correction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_theology


FR.LEONARD FEENEY -WIKIPEDIA
Father Leonard Edward Feeney (February 18, 1897 – January 30, 1978)[1] was a U.S. Jesuit priest, poet, lyricist, and essayist.
He articulated and defended a strict interpretation of the Roman Catholic doctrine, extra Ecclesiam nulla salus ("outside the Church there is no salvation"). He took the position that baptism of blood and baptism of desire are unavailing and that therefore no non-Catholics will be saved.2
Lionel: The Vatican must clarify here that the baptism of blood and the baptism of desire without the baptism of water ' are unavailing' they are zero cases in our reality as the apologist John Martignoni says. So they are not exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS. All non Catholics in 2017 are oriented to the fires of Hell with no exceptions unless they enter the Church with faith and the baptism of water.The Vatican however allows Wikipedia to promote this confusion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Feeney

One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic: Catholic Theology-Wikipedia
In Lumen gentium, the Catholic Church acknowledges that the Holy Spirit is active among the ecclesiastical communities separated from itself, though the Holy Spirit's work among them is to "impel towards Catholic unity" and thus bring them to salvation. The document also calls for ecumenical dialogue amongst all Christians.
Lionel: Here Wikipedia has ignored the visible-invisible distinction.This passage can be interpreted with Feeneyism (invisible cases are invisible) or Cushingism(invisible people are physically visible on earth). Wikipedia has chosen irrational Cushingism and the Vatican has not corrected this.
EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS -WIKIPEDIA
The Catholic Church also teaches that the doctrine(EENS) does not mean that everyone who is not visibly within the Church is necessarily damned in case of inculpable ignorance.-Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus on Wikipedia 3
Lionel: This is Cushingism again.Inculpable ignorance refers to known cases for Wikipedia. So everyone who is not visibly within the Church is not necessarily damned.
For me a Feeneyite, inculpable ignorance refers to unknown cases and so the dogmatic teaching on extra ecclesiam nulla salus stands.According to Father Stefano Visintin sdb, the present Vice Rector and former Dean of Theology at the University of St. Anselm, Rome, inculpable ignorance and the baptism of desire are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is something obvious. Yet the Vatican does not issue a correction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_Ecclesiam_nulla_salus
Image result for archbishop salvatore pennacchio in Poland
So I repeat what I mentioned in the previous blog post:why do Catholics in Poland or Italy have to assume invisible people are visible exceptions to the dogma EENS ? Why does the Vatican not correct Wikipedia?
Why do Catholics have to interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS, when there can be no practical exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II and none in real life and Wikipedia says the opposite ?
Why are all the religious communities in Poland being forced to accept Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS and Wikipedia allowed to contribute to this confusion?
Should not the Vatican allow all religious communities in Poland and Italy, and the rest of the world, to accept and proclaim that Vatican Council II is not a rupture with EENS as it was known to St.Maximillian Kolbe,St. Stanislaus Kotska, St. Faustina Kowalska and the missionaries in the 16th century.? Ask the Vatican to correct the errors on Wikipedia.
Should they not announce that the Franciscans of the Immaculate do not have to accept Vatican Council II as a rupture with the dogma EENS and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX(1864) since the interpretation of Wikipedia is false on the Internet?
Could they clarify that outside the Church there is no known salvation in 2017.This is something obvious. So Pope Benedict XVI was wrong in 2016 when in Avvenire he said EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century, since there was ' a development' with Vatican Council II.Cardinal Ratzinger was making the same mistake as Wikipedia and did not correct the error on the Internet when he was the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
-Lionel Andrades




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June 13, 2017
President Andrzej Duda and Archbishop Salvatore Pennacchio. Photo: PAP/Jacek Turczyk
Polish Ambassadors to Vatican and Italy need to be asked about Franciscans of the Immaculate and rules for religious communities
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/polish-ambassadors-to-vatican-and-italy.html


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Wikipedia is misleading on Catholic theology

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/wikipedia-is-misleading-on-catholic.html


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JUNE 13, 2017


Wikipedia, liberal theologians and Cardinal Ratzinger made the wrong inference http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/wikipedia-liberal-theologians-and.html

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July 18, 2014
Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson contradicts USCCB : the baptism of desire is not visible to us and so is not an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salushttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/archbishop-thomas-egullickson.html



Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishop-thomas-egullickson-says.html#links

JULY 18, 2014

OCTOBER 16, 2013


DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/dean-of-theology-at-st-anselm-says.html

CATHOLIC PRIESTS IN ROME AGREE WITH FR.LEONARD FEENEY: THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF

How can zero cases of something be considered exceptions ?- John Martignoni http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/sspx-only-way-out-now.html#links 

IRRESPECTIVE IF THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE RESULTS IN JUSTIFICATION OR JUSTIFICATON AND SALVATION IT IS NOT AN EXPLICIT EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/irrespective-if-baptism-of-desie.html#links

JOHN MARTIGNONI SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II IS IN AGREEMENT WITH EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND THE SYLLABUS: WHEN WILL THE SSPX AND THE VATICAN CURIA ACKNOWLEDGE IT? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/john-martigioni-says-vatican-council-ii.html#links

Implicit intention, invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) in Vatican Council II do not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus –John Martignoni http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/implicit-intention-invincible-ignorance.html#links

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