We agree that Salvation outside the Catholic Church is not a position
that can be engaged upon any Catholic. We only know of any
circumstances whereby a person has been saved by BOB OR BOD
when it is professed by the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church
has taught for numerous centuries without doubt that there have
been Saints of BOB and BOD.. We do not know where and when
God has admitted a person to Purgatory/Heaven by the will of God
whether it be by BOB, BOD or II other than all Saints that have
been professed by the Catholic Church for 20 plus centuries.. It is
the Catholic Church teaching which was disagreed with by yourself
and Father Feeney that ANYONE could be saved by BOB< BOD< or
II. Although you openly disagree with Father Feeney on BOB. This
is nonsense and a direct attack on God for all times and
circumstances that we could not even perceive or know about during
the history of he Catholic Church and God Himself. The letter of
1949 did great damage in mentioning both in the same letter which
was interpreted by most to mean that WE could project those that
could be saved by BOB< BOD or II which is nonsense. II belongs
solely to God for salvation whereas there are known cases of BOB
and BOD as professed as Saints by the Catholic Church as
CATHOLICS. A catechist who died before they received Baptism
by water are certainily in Heaven/Purgatory/Hell UNKNOWN to
us but certanilly a teaching of the Catholic Church.
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Lionel:
I am coming to this issue from a completely different angle.
I am saying like you that there are no known cases of a non
Catholic saved in invincible ignorance and without the
baptism of water.That's all.
You have agreed that there are no such cases in the past
or present which can be seen or known personally.
So you can speculate as much as you want and affirm
being saved in invincible ignorance. I will not object.
But do not mention it with reference to EENS.
Since for I.I to be relevant to EENS it must exist. It must
exist in our reality.There is no such case you have said.
You are still mentioning BOD and I.I with reference to EENS?
-Lionel Andrades
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