Wednesday, March 15, 2017

Yes so who can say that they are physically seen in Heaven with BOD and I.I and without the baptism of water?

  Baptism of Blood,  Baptism of  Desire and Invincible Ignorance have been approved by the Catholic Church since  the beginning of the first century.  That is all I have to say on this subject.
 O.k so we do not know any one as such and no could have physically seen or known such a case in real  life. We agree here.

 Baptism of Blood,  Baptism of  Desire and Invincible Ignorance have been approved by the Catholic Church since  the beginning of the first century.  That is all I have to say on this subject.

You mean it was approved by popes and saints as a hypothetical case. A possibility known only to God. It was speculation. It was accepted in faith.
However they knew that there were no physically known cases.None in their time or in the past?

IT IS WRONG WHEN YOU SAY:
You have said that there are no physically known cases of BOD and I.I in the present times and there could not be any such case as such in the past.
You have agreed to this.
This is common sense.
So it would also be common sense for the popes and saints.
 Of course ALL proclaimed Saints of Baptism of Blood and Baptism od Desire who are PROFESSED Saints are KNOWN to us. That is why the Catholic Church set up such a proclimation. They are all Catholic.

You have said that there are no physically known cases of BOD and I.I in the present times and there could not be any such case as such in the past.
You have agreed to this.
This is common sense.
So it would also be common sense for the popes and saints.

Of course ALL proclaimed Saints of Baptism of Blood and Baptism of Desire who are PROFESSED Saints are KNOWN to us.
All proclaimed saints are saints period. Who can say that they are saints without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church?
That is why the Catholic Church set up such a proclimation. They are all Catholic.
Yes so who can say that they are physically seen in Heaven with BOD and I.I and without the baptism of water? -Lionel Andrades




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