All proclaimed saints are saints period. Who can say that they are saints without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church?

You have said that there are no physically known cases of baptism of desire (BOD) and invincible ignorance (I.I) in the present times and there could not be any such case as such in the past.

You have agreed to this.

This is common sense.

So it would also be common sense for the popes and saints.

Of course ALL proclaimed Saints of Baptism of Blood and Baptism od Desire who are PROFESSED Saints are KNOWN to us.

All proclaimed saints are saints period. Who can say that they are saints without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church?

That is why the Catholic Church set up such a proclimation. They are all Catholic.

Yes so who can say that they are physically seen in Heaven with BOD and I.I and without the baptism of water?

-Lionel Andrades