Wednesday, March 15, 2017

A possibility is not a known exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.We see this confusion in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and Vatican Council II.

Pope Pius IX Singulari Quadam:
“For, it must be held by faith that outside the Apostolic Roman Church, no one can be saved; that this is the only ark of salvation; that he who shall not have entered therein will perish in the flood; but, on the other hand, it is necessary to hold for certain that they who labor in ignorance of the true religion, if this ignorance is invincible, are not stained by any guilt in this matter in the eyes of God.”
Persons who receive an implicit baptism of desire are non-formal members of the Church; they can be saved by the same Ark of Salvation as all Christians can be saved.
The Pope is responding to a question here. He affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and also mentions the possibility of someone being saved in invincible ignorance. A possibility is not a known exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.We see this confusion in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and Vatican Council II.1
When the Cushingites read this passage they assume that a possibility is a known exception. 
___________________________
The Catechism of Pope Saint Pius X:
The Creed, Ninth Article, The Church in Particular: 29
“Q. But if a man through no fault of his own is outside the Church, can he be saved? A. If he is outside the Church through no fault of his, that is, if he is in good faith, and if he has received Baptism, or at least has the implicit desire of Baptism; and if, moreover, he sincerely seeks the truth and does God’s will as best he can such a man is indeed separated from the body of the Church, but is united to the soul of the Church and consequently is on the way of salvation”
Yes.It is a reference to a hypothetical case. It is said in faith.It is speculation. Since it cannot be a concrete case it cannot be a practical exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
_________________________________

Baptism, Necessity of Baptism and Obligations of the Baptized: 17
“Q. Can the absence of Baptism be supplied in any other way? A. The absence of Baptism can be supplied by martyrdom, which is called Baptism of Blood, or by an act of perfect love of God, or of contrition, along with the desire, at least implicit, of Baptism, and this is called Baptism of Desire.”
Hypothetically. Speculatively.So it is not relevant or an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This would be looking at this passage with the theology of Feeneyism, without the irrational premise. I do not assume invisible and imaginary cases are visible in the present times.
-Lionel Andrades 

 1

FEBRUARY 13, 2017


For Bishop Bernard Fellay and the SSPX priests subsist it is a break with Tradition. The fault lies with their interpretation .It is Vatican Council II (Cushingite).

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/02/for-bishop-bernard-fellay-and-sspx.html

No comments: