Thursday, January 26, 2017

There is a mistake in Nostra Aetate,Vatican Council II and it still is not on the radar of Catholics. No one has reported it yet.

There is a mistake in Vatican Council II and it still is not on the radar of Catholics. No one has reported on it yet.
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Cardinal Cushing and the Jesuits made the mistake when they drafted Nostra Aetate.
To reject the old ecclesiocentrism of the past they needed an exception.So Cardinal Cushing, as Archbishop of Boston approved this exception in an extraordinary Letter from the Holy Office 1949 addressed to him, relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney.The exception came with the Letter.
Nostra Aetate -Aug. 8, 2016
The mistake in the Letter was to infer that there were exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were known cases of people saved without the baptism of water in 1949.
There would have to be a known case in 1949 of someone who went to Heaven without the baptism of water, for there to be an exception to the dogma EENS.There was no one  of course.However the Letter inferred there was.This was the excuse needed to discard the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
Someone in the past could not be an exception to the dogma EENS in 1949. Not that there was such a known case before 1949.
Someone in the future could  not be an exception to the dogma EENS in 1949.It would have to be a known case in the present times(1949) for there to be an exception.
So there was no exception to the dogma EENS and the magisterium in Rome and Cardinal Cushing in Boston assumed that there was such a case.
This was official.
The Holy Office and the Archdiocese of Boston had rejected the traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS. This was reported in the Boston media. The Church had changed its teaching on salvation the newspapers said.There was no contradiction from the Archbdiocese of Boston.There was no contradiction from Rome.
Pope Francis stands between Jewish and Muslim religious leaders during a prayer service at the ground zero 9/11 Memorial Museum in New York, Sept. 25 (CNS Photo / Paul Haring)..
So the magisterium had rejected the ecclesiocentrism of the past.
This was expressed in Nostra Aetate.It refers to salvation in Jesus without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church.
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Jesus without the Church.
This would be the ecclesiology accepted by Cardinal Ratzinger as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.It is there in Redemptoris Missio and other Church documents.
But now we know that there are no exceptions to the dogma EENS.
There is no known case of the baptism of desire or being saved in invincible ignorance without the baptism of water in 2017.None.
So there is a mistake in Nostra Aetate.
Nostra Aetate has rejected the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) since it was wrongly assumed by Cardinal Cushing and the Jesuits that there were known exceptions to EENS.They made a mistake and changed the ecclesiology of the Church.Or someone chose a mistake and changed the ecclesiology of the Church.
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This is not just something of the past.Today there can be two interpretations of Vatican Council II. One is on assuming hypothetical cases are hypothetical. The other is like Cardinal Cushing, assuming hypothetical cases are objectively and personally known.They are not hypothetical.
So for me LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc would refer to hypothetical cases only. So they would not be exceptions or relevant to the dogma EENS.
Nostra Aetate: Celebrating Fifty Years of the Catholic Church's
For the two popes, the CDF and the traditionalists they would be exceptions to EENs,they would be visible for us cases  in 2017. Only because they are assumed to be visible they are exceptions.They can only be exceptions if they are visible and known, I repeat,in the present times.Someone in the future or the past cannot be an exception in the present time. 
There was also a mix up between what is invisible and visible, subjective and objective, implicit and explicit for Cardinal Cushing and the Jesuits when they were drafting a document based on a philosophical error to create a new fantasy theology in the Catholic Church.
Since there was known salvation outside the Church for them, Nostra Aetate suggests that a Muslim or Jew could be saved in his religion. The same mistake is made with reference to Christians in Unitatis Redintigratio 3. 
This is human error.It cannot be the teaching of the Holy Spirit.It is an objective error. We cannot objectively see people in Heaven saved  without the baptism of water and instead with the baptism of desire. We cannot know of any one on earth who will be saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. Yet Cardinal Cushing assumed there were such known cases in Heaven who were explicit exceptions to the dogma EENS on earth.
There are many mistakes in Vatican Council II.
-Lionel Andrades


Too many mistakes in Vatican Council II

DECEMBER 26, 2016

The Council Fathers at Vatican Council II, according to the text of the Council, wrongly assumed hypothetical cases were not hypothetical

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/the-council-fathers-at-vatican-council.html

DECEMBER 26, 2016

The difference between Cardinal Ratzinger and me : one of us is in heresy

DECEMBER 24, 2016

In Dominus Iesus Cardinal Ratzinger repeats mistakes of Redemptoris Missio :irrational philosophy creates non traditional theology (Gloria tv)

DECEMBER 23, 2016

Catholics cannot believe that Cardinal Ratzinger made a major mistake

DECEMBER 23, 2016

Cardinal Ratzinger made an objective mistake in Redemptoris Missio

DECEMBER 22, 2016

Card.Ratzinger's error in the ITC papers is also there in Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus

DECEMBER 22, 2016

Cardinal Ratzinger 's work : a rupture between faith and reason

DECEMBER 21, 2016

Magisterium in rebellion

DECEMBER 18, 2016

It's un- precedented in over 50 years. All the reports on Vatican Council II have not reported on this.Philosophical error runs through the Council text

 DECEMBER 18, 2016

When I meet a non Catholic on the streets I know he is on the way to Hell since he could not be in the subsist it or know or did not know about Jesus and the Church category

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/when-i-meet-non-catholic-on-streets-i.html

DECEMBER 17, 2016

When I meet a non Catholic on the streets I know he is on the way to Hell since the Catholic Church teaches this : this would be news for many Catholics

DECEMBER 17, 2016

Unprecedented!

DECEMBER 15, 2016

Objective philosophical mistakes in Vatican Council II :bishops, do not respond to philosophical questions : Cardinal Pell will not answer two questions

DECEMBER 13, 2016

PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTIONS FOR A PROFESSOR OF PHILOSOPHY : ASK HIM ABOUT MISTAKES IN VATICAN COUNCIL II

DECEMBER 13, 2016

Traditionalists too unaware of major philosophical mistake : many errors in Vatican Council II

DECEMBER 13, 2016

Too many mistakes in Vatican Council II

DECEMBER 12, 2016

Vatican Council II riddled with philosphical error : two popes in principle support objective error in text

HTTP://EUCHARISTANDMISSION.BLOGSPOT.IT/2016/12/VATICAN-COUNCIL-II-RIDDLED-WITH.HTML

DECEMBER 11, 2016

Priest confirms philosophical error : Lefebvre excommunication a mistake.

The source of the present Arian-like heresy throughout the Church is a philosophy which interprets invisible persons as being visible and so a non traditional conclusion is created

DECEMBER 10, 2016

The present magisterium has made a major philosophical mistake

DECEMBER 7, 2016

Ecclesia Dei has approved the Tridentine Rite Mass but only with the new ecclesiology in 2017 : Summorum Pontificum pilgrimage

 DECEMBER 1, 2016

There is a mistake in Vatican Council II and once the error is identified and avoided, the interpretation of the Council radically changes.There is no 'spirit of Vatican Council II ' excuse anymore

NOVEMBER 29, 2016

So it is only by using an irrationality that the present magisterium can re-interpret magisterial documents and say Vatican Council II indicates all Jews and Muslims in Italy do not need to convert into the Catholic Church in 2016

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/so-it-only-by-using-irrationality-that.html

JUNE 23, 2016
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/with-these-factual-and-object-mistakes.html

DECEMBER 13, 2016
Vatican to house two Popes for first time as Benedict returns
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/troppi-errori-nel-concilio-vaticano-ii.html


You are still sending me links which say BOD is an exception to EENS.BOD was never an exception to EENS. It was never relevant to EENS.The liberal theologians made it relevant. They have interpreted BOD as being explicit instead of implicit
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/you-are-still-sending-me-another-link.html

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