Thursday, December 15, 2016
It's unprecedented.Philosophical mistakes have been discovered in Vatican Council II which was unknown or unreported over the last 50 years.It has completely changed the understanding of the Council which was always traditional.
For the liberals this will be a big blow. So media like CRUX is not reporting on it.
It means Vatican Council II had a continuity all along with the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), which the main steam media calls the 'rigorist interpretation'.
The liberal interpretation of Vatican Council II could only be made with the philosophical error.This intepretation was made by assuming what is hypothetical is not hypothetical.Invisible cases were considered visible.The liberals' famous case of the catechumen who allegedly was known is really unknown.With this false premise(visible cases of the baptism of desire etc) a non traditional conclusion (there is known salvation outside the Church so the dogma has exceptions)was created.
This non traditional and heretical conclusion in the interpretation of Vatican Council II was rejected by the traditionalists.However it was accepted by the magisterium, the liberals and the Left.
Now when religious are asked basic philosophical questions, they can see where it is leading to and they refuse to answer, or be quoted.Similarly at the pontifical universities and seminaries in Rome there are priest -professors who continue to teach a lie.Their interpretation of Vatican Council II, is based on the philosophical error.They maintain the error even after being informed.-Lionel Andrades
DECEMBER 15, 2016
Objective philosophical mistakes in Vatican Council II :bishops, do not respond to philosophical questions : Cardinal Pell will not answer two questions
There are objective philosophical mistakes in Vatican Council II and priests and bishops are not responding to the following philosophical questions.Even a cardinal refused to answer two questions.For priests and an auxiliary bishop of Rome it is ' a sensitive issue.'
Once this error is corrected the Catholic laity can interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Vatican Council II would be in agreement with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known in the 16th century.
Vatican Council II would be saying, without the mix up over invisible cases being visible, that there can only be an ecumenism of return.
Since there is no known salvation outside the Church there can be no Anonymous Christian theology of Fr.Karl Rahner, Cardinal Ratzinger, Cardinal Kasper and other liberals.
Since there is no known salvation outside the Church, we do not know of any one saved in another religion.Outside the Church there is no salvation. So it is important that all political legislation have as its centre the Social Reign of Christ the King.There cannot be a separation of Church and State.
1.From the philosophical point of view a catechumen desires to receive the baptism of water but he dies before he can receive it and is allegedly saved.Is this a hypothetical case for you?
My answer is YES.It is a hypothetical case.
It would be hypothetical for us and known only to God.
2.So is this case of a catechumen who is saved with the 'baptism of desire' known or unknown for you ?
He is always unknown for me. He can only be known to God if he existed.
3.So if someone says that this case of the catechumen is physically visible in 2016 and personally known to us then this would be false reasoning.? My answer is YES.
4.Would it violate the Principle of Non Contradiction if someone said this case was visible in the present times, and was personally known?
My answer is Yes since it is being assumed that someone invisible is visible.It is being inferred that someone who does not exist is there on earth and is known.Someone who is not concrete and tangible is assumed to be defacto and real in present time and space.
5.Similarly this case of an un-seen and known catechumen who is saved with the desire for the baptism of water,in the past too, would be hypothetical for the people of that time, since it cannot be physically visible and known in personal cases? Yes.It cannot be known. It is always an invisible case for us human beings.
A. Do we personally know people saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience (LG 16) etc,can we see them, are they physically visible to us in 2016 ?
My answer is that we cannot see them. They are not physically visible .They are not personally known to us in our time and space.
B. Since we do not know any of these cases, in real life, they are not visible to us, there cannot be any known exception to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, nor to Ad Gentes 7 which states 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation? My answer is that they are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. They were never exceptions.The Holy Office 1949 and the Archbishop of Boston made an objective error.
C.So when Vatican Council II mentions this catechumen (LG 14) and being saved in invincible ignorance(LG 16),along with orthodox passages, which support the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, was it a mistake?
It was a mistake for me. Since these are 'zero cases' in our reality, they are not 'practical exceptions' to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the old ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.I can read Vatican Council II while noting that these cases are hypothetical and theoretical only.
May 15, 2014
CARDINAL GEORGE PELL FINALLY SAYS HE CANNOT ANSWER IN ROME TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CATHOLIC FAITH
December 19, 2014
Mons.Lorenzo Leucci anniversary