Saturday, October 15, 2016

PADRE PIO SAID THAT MARTIN LUTHER IS IN HELL AND CHRISTIANS WHO FOLLOW HIM WILL MEET THE SAME END- Fr.Stefano Manelli F.I, founder of the Franciscans of the Immaculate

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From the blog Eucharist and Mission


PADRE PIO SAID THAT MARTIN LUTHER IS IN HELL AND CHRISTIANS WHO FOLLOW HIM WILL MEET THE SAME END- Fr.Stefano Manelli F.I, founder of the Franciscans of the Immaculate

(MONDAY, JANUARY 28, 2013)

Padre Pio said that Martin Luther is in Hell and Christians today who follow him will meet the same end.

Those who do not submit themself to the pope and the teachings of the Catholic Church are also going to Hell.
Father Stefano Manelli F.I founder of the Franciscans of the Immaculate writes that Martin Luther who called himself Pope Luther 1and condemned the pope of Rome, as going to Hell, was a great heretic.


Fr.Manelli in Il Settimanale di Padre Pio (Jan.20,2013 p.1) said that Christians today who follow Luther are also on the way to Hell.

Fr.Manelli in the Italian weekly , mentioned that Padre Pio said those Christians who believe they can speak directly with God are also going to Hell.

Luther believed he could speak directly with God. He  was precipitated into Hell said Padre Pio.

Fr.Stefano Manelli in his weekly column Il Pensiero di Padre Pio,Pianeta Padre Pio, wrote that  Padre Pio criticized those Christians who believe they can speak directly to God and receive instructions and do not have to submit to the authority of the pope.

This is also a dangerous road writes Fr.Manelli for Christians who believe they are in communion with God without his Vicar and the Catholic Church. They are mistaken and this is an illusion for them,as it is known, he writes, outside the church there is no salvation.

On this point, Padre Pio, with simple words, which were terrible, said that those who believe they can communicate with God directly, are on the way to Hell.

Luther's end was horrible and frightening, he writes, but this will also be the same history of many Christians and Catholics who believe in the teachings of Luther.They risk also going to Hell like Luther, for not listening to the pope.

We need to understand the words of Jesus, in which he delegated St.Peter and his successors the guarantee of a unique Catholic Faith in the Church.(Lk.22,32).This is the guarantee and confirmation given to the popes which is secure and infallible and no one will be lost to Hell who remains with the pope in the Catholic Church.


'Thou art Peter,' said Jesus, ' and upon this rock I will build my Church,and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it' (Mt.16,18).

Fr.Stefano Manelli, who personally knew the saint, said Padre Pio had kept a picture of the pope on his little working table..So always before him was the message,'After Jesus comes the Pope'.(Dopo Gesù viene il papa).

Even we , suggests Fr.Manelli, should quickly free ourself from everything which is far from the pope and not supporting the pope.Even we should value the motto of Padre Pio, 'After Jesus comes the pope'. -Lionel Andrades

LUTHERANS, PROTESTANTS ARE GOING TO HELL SAID ST.TERESA OF AVILA

From the blog Eucharist and Mission

LUTHERANS, PROTESTANTS ARE GOING TO HELL SAID ST.TERESA OF AVILA: CARMELITE MEETING YESTERDAY 

TUESDAY, MARCH 16, 2010


St. Teresa of Avila said that all Protestants, Lutherans are on the way to Hell was an observation made at a meeting held yesterday at the auditorium of the Church San Martino ai Monti, Rome. It was the second monthly meeting on the Interior Castle of St. Teresa of Avila. The talks are given by Fr. Giampiero Molinari, OCD. 
We were on the second chapter of St. Teresa’s s Interior Castle where she writes about mortal sin and the need to pray for those who are in this condition of sin.

However the remark about the Protestants, Lutherans came from St. Teresa of Avila’s autobiography, the book of her Life.

A young lady participant observed the contrast with the ecumenism of today and St. Teresa of Avila.

Interestingly there is a lot of Teresian Studies here and abroad and they do not yet show the link between St. Teresa of Avila and Vatican Council II.

Vatican Council II says all non Catholics, need Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water to avoid Hell.

… all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door…’(Emphasis added).
So Teresa of Avila was correct. All Lutherans needs to enter the Catholic Church for salvation.

Millions of Protestants and non-Christians  in Rome are sadly to be lost to eternal death in Hell according to Vatican Council.Since they are aware of the Church and yet do not enter.

‘Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it."…-Vatican Council II
So Vatican Council II is affirming the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus just like St.Teresa of Avila, St. John of the Cross and all the other Carmelites. Here is the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

“There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.).

“We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 302.).

“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.) – from the website Catholicism.org and “No Salvation outside the Church”: Link List, the Three Dogmatic Statements Regarding EENS) http://nosalvationoutsideofthecatholiicchurch.blogspot.com/
The dogma does not say that those in invincioble ignorance, with the baptism of destre or with a good conscience do not de facto have to enter the Catholic Church to avoid Hell. The dogma indicates that there areno exceptions. This is Teresian spirituality.

The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus was referred to as ‘the dogma’, the ‘infallible’ teaching by Pope Pius XII. 

Now, among those things which the Church has always preached and will never cease to preach is contained also thatinfallible statement by which we are taught that there is no salvation outside the Church.
However, this dogma must be understood in that sense in which the Church herself understands it...-Letter of the Holy Office 1949 (Emphasis added).
Pope Pius XII was saying all Jews in Boston, specifically, and other cities like Rome, needed to worship God in the only religion in which God wants all people to be united in. This is also the teaching of Fr. Leonard Feeney, who was not excommunicated for heresy. This was also the teaching of St.Teresa of Avila.

St. Pius XII’s said that ‘in certain circumstances’ a non Catholic with implicit faith (baptism of desire, invincible ignorance etc) can be saved. 
In His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects, necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's final end, not by intrinsic necessity, but only by divine institution, can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing.-Letter of the Holy Office 1949
So implicit faith was never in conflict with evangelisation and mission, or with the dogmatic teaching that everyone with no exception needs to enter Jesus’ Mystical Body; the Church, to be saved, from Hell. Since we do not know any specific person, who in those rare, 'in certain circumstances' God will judge as having a good conscience, the baptism of desire or being genuinely in invincible ignorance(LG 16).

Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience. Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life. Whatever good or truth is found amongst them is looked upon by the Church as a preparation for the Gospel.-Lumen Gentium 16,Vatican Council II.
Carmelites Studies needs to see the link between Vatican Council II and St.Teresa of Avila.


http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2010/03/lutherans-protestants-are-going-to-hell.html

THE INTERIOR CASTLE-ST.TERESA OF AVILA

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2009

THE INTERIOR CASTLE-ST.TERESA OF AVILA

October 15 is the  feast day of St. Teresa of Avila.




For a day and a half a grave was left open in my convent, waiting for my body, and the rites for the dead were performed at a friary of our Order a short distance away. But it pleased the Lord that I should come round. I immediately asked to confess, and took Communion with many tears. But I do not think my tears came only from pain and sorrow at having offended God, which might have been enough to excuse me, if I had not the additional excuse of having been misled by those priests who had told me that certain things were not mortal sins which certainly were, as I have since seen.-The Life of St. Teresa of Avila Chapter 5 Translated by J.M Cohen. 

Teresa says that our soul is created in the image of God. She says God is in the centre of our soul. She compares the soul to a castle with God there in the centre of the castle. The way to reach this centre, she says, is prayer and meditation.


This Castle has many mansions and the soul moves from one mansion to another .The soul has been made, programmed, to do the will of God and to reach Perfection, to reach the centre. This is built in like a teleogical missile or rocket i.e. a rocket which knows before it reaches the target, what is the target and how it will get there. God has built the soul to come back to Him if we just do His Will and not ours.

The soul is like pure light and with great beauty. God built it this way. But when we commit a mortal sin the soul becomes dark. The soul separates itself from God. Since the devil is darkness the soul becomes like the devil. Instead of evolving towards the Sun in the centre of the Soul the soul devolves or remains in the outer mansion only.

All these signs of the fear of God came to me through prayer, and the greatest of these was that I went about enveloped in love, for the thought of punishment no longer occurred to me. All the time that I was so ill, my conscience remained very much awake against mortal sin-The Life of St. Teresa of Avila .Chapter 6
A soul in grace is like a pure fresh stream that helps trees to grow and gives life. A soul in mortal sin is a like a foul smelling dirty stream that pollutes everything. The soul in this state creates misery for itself.

Teresa had the gift to see souls and so she could describe them.


She says we must ask God for two graces 1) A great fear of not offending Him and 2) humility. This is important for the interior journey to God.

In the First Mansion there are millions of souls. They are motivated by good intentions. The soul has to give up its love for its self, advantage and honor to enter the Second Mansion.

In the Second Stanza the devil places obstacles like love for things of the world, ones friends and relatives, guarding ones health during penance and millions of other obstacles.

As we move from the outer mansions closer to God we need to persevere and trust in God, since He knows what is best for us to come to Him. He wants us to come to Him.

The Way is Suffering. The Cross .The more suffering you receive the more freedom and liberty you have. Always choose the Cross she says.

If we do not leave prayer God will show us the way into the Third Mansion.

What is the grace that takes you into the Third Mansion? She can only describe it with the words-Blessed is the man who fears the Lord. It is here that God gives you the gift of a confident conscience.

The Fourth Mansion is a blessed Mansion as one gets closer to the King in the Castle. Here thoughts and evil have less power to distract and trouble us. There are spiritual consolations and sweetness in meditation. To make progress here she says the important thing is not to think much but to love much.

The heavenly grace, the pure fresh water begins to flow from the Source and spreads with goodness, happiness, joy, consolations and mystical states. This happens effortlessly and is a grace here. The will is more closely united to the will of God.

There is the experience of the Prayer of Recollection.

Very few people enter the Fifth Mansion. The soul is conscious of being in union with God. Or that there is such a thing as being in union with God. There is the Prayer of Union here which she describes. The love of ones neighbor takes a new dimension here. It’s importance is realized. One has to proceed carefully here since the Devil is still watching and waiting to send the soul back to the First Mansion.

She cautions that we must withdraw from all possibilities and occasions of sin. We need to be very careful.

In the Fifth Mansion we need to continuously ask God to guard us. Since if he leaves us the soul will fall. The soul may be doing the will of God but the devil distracts the soul with good things, things which are not sins but which will over time gradually take the soul away from the will of God and distract it. It could be like meeting a friend or spending time with a relative.

In the Sixth Mansion God awakens a soul. There are locutions and teachings. Apparitions. There is great tranquility. The soul becomes devout and is easily recollected. Here are raptures and ecstasy. However holy a person is she says he must always keep before him the Humanity of Jesus. She is referring to mental prayer and meditation. This is an anchor in Jesus and prevents the Devil misleading you. The devil is still there waiting for you to fall. Since he knows that in this state a soul can save many others, like did the Catholic saints.

When one enters the Seventh Mansion the Holy Trinity grants knowledge of the Godhead. The soul is helped to go towards perfection says St. Teresa of Avila in the Interior Castle. The soul is aware of being in union with God in a spiritual way. The soul desires to suffer and do the will of God perfectly. There is no more dryness or suffering here as the soul experienced in earlier mansions. There is tranquility. The soul does not want to commit the slightest imperfection.Humility is still the key.

Here she concludes The Interior Castle (Read it online at Catholic First)

Solitude is their delight and they dislike the mere thought of seeing anyone, even a close relative, unless the meeting will help kindle their love of the Bridegroom... (Speaking of her convent of sisters)Their sole conversation is of God, and they understand no one who speaks of anything else, nor do those others understand them. We observe the Rule of Our Lady of Carmel…

…to enjoy the company of their Bridegroom, Christ, in solitude. For this must always be the sole aim of our nuns: to be alone with Him...’-Life of St. Teresa of Avila Chapt.37

St.Teresa of Avila- the saint who saw the Blessed Trinity

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2013

St.Teresa of Avila- the saint who saw the Blessed Trinity

Yesterday evening I passed by the Church of St. Teresa of Avila, Corso d' Italia, off the Via Venuto, Rome.I like going there, when I can, and seeing the specimen of her handwriting in the original, on display.Today is her feast day.Yesterday in the church I wrote a little note in Italian for the Carmelite Parish Priest and the Responsible of the New Catechumenal Movement .The latter, Franco Papa, is a legal advocate. I personally have not met him.
I wrote that St.Teresa of Avila was in agreement with Vatican Council II (AG 7), the Catechism of the Catholic Church(846) and Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 when she believed all Lutherans and Muslims are on the way to Hell, unless they convert into the Catholic Church before death.
It's unfortunate that the Carmelites at this church,  the Vicariate Rome and the New Catechumanate in their catechesis disagree with Teresa and claim there are known exceptions for all non Catholics to enter the Church in 2013.It is as if these cases are visible for them in Rome.
When these errors are repeated it is a sin. It is a falsehood.Franco Papa the advocate, would know if repeating a lie even after being informed  is legal in Italy.
 
I greeted the two of them on the feast day today and wished them well. I then went to the sacristy to leave the note. I  handed it to the Rector who was looking through some baptism lists and was speaking to a lady on the phone.I told him today was the feast day of a special saint for me and I could not help writing that note.He read it and smiled (there's a slight improvement in my Italian?!) and said thank you. He would hand it over to the NC Responsible.

I once had most of the books in English (of Teresa and John of the Cross)  and had the leisure and pleasure of picking  and reading any of them when I wanted to. It was a grace-time from God.
St.Teresa of Avila is in agreement with Vatican Council II and the Church's traditional teaching on Mission and there were no speeches allowed at the church for today,  by the Vicariate and the Vatican.
 
Instead there was some announcement about the feast day being celebrated with a social, following the screening of a film on the new windows in the church, or something to that effect. I don't remember.
These Carmelite priests should have been telling parishioners to go out and proclaim the Good News since non Catholics are going to Hell and that we don't know anyone in Rome this year, saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire.This is Catholic doctrine. Jesus died and is Risen to save all, from the fires of Hell, who believe in Him and live his teachings in only the Catholic Church(Dominus Iesus 20), outside of which there is no salvation. This is the Gospel which needs to be preached. This is the Good News.Those who believe in Jesus and live the Gospel as taught by the Catholic Church will be saved (from Hell).
It sadly is not the doctrine and catechesis of the Parish priest or the Neo Catechumenale Movement.They say all non Catholics do not need to convert this year.The Good News and the Gospel has still to be proclaimed in many of the churches in Rome.
-Lionel Andrades
 
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/stteresa-of-avila-saint-who-saw-blessed.html

Present day accounts of Hell are the same as that of St.Teresa of Avila

JUNE 20, 2014

Modern accounts of Hell match St.Teresa of Avila : worms and reptiles

 
 
 
 
A doctor names Maurice Rawlings, who specialized in cardiovascular diseases at the Diagnostic Hospital in Chattanooga, Tennessee, logged that and a number of similar cases- arguing that all was not glimmering and bliss and ligh after death.
 
"As I stood near that enormous pit of fire, no immediater attackers seemed to be threathening, so this gave me a moment to take in my curroundings," recalled anotfher fellow who passed and retruned, Bill Wiese, whose experience occurred ( at three a.m.) in 1998 and who wrote a book about it.
"It was raining fire and burning rock, similar to the way lava falls from the sky when a volcano explodes. The smoke from the flames was very thick, allowing visibility for only a short distance, but what I could see was horrifying. I saw many people reaching out of the pit of fire, desperately trying to claw their way out.But there was no escape. I turned my head, and I noticed that I was standing in the middle of a cave, the wall wrapped around me and led to the vast expanse of the pit.
 
 
"As I looked at the walls, I saw that they were covered with thousands of hideous creatures.These demonic creatures were all sizes and shapes.Some of them had four legs and were the size of bears. Others stood upright and were about the size of gorillas. They were all terribly grotesque.It looked as though their flesh had been decomposing and all their limbs were twisted and out of proportion. Some displayed immense, long arms or abnormally large feet. They seemed to be the living dead. There were also gigantic rats and huge spiders at least three feet high. I also saw snakes and worms, ranging from small to enormously large, I was petrified and could not believe my eyes."
 

St.Teresa of Avila's description of Hell:
A long time after the Lord had already granted me many of the favors I've mentioned and other very lofty ones, while I was in prayer one day, I suddenly found that, without knowing how, I had seemingly been put in hell. I understood that the Lord wanted me to see the place the devils had prepared there for me and which I merited because of my sins. This experience took place within the shortest space of time, but even were I to live for many years I think it would be impossible for me to forget it. The entrance it seems to me was similar to a very long and narrow alleyway, like an oven, low and dark and confined; the floor seemed to me to consist of dirty, muddy water emitting foul stenchand swarming with putrid vermin. At the end of the alleyway a hole that looked like a small cupboard was hollowed out in the wall; there I found I was placed in a cramped condition. All of this was delightful to see in comparison with what I felt there. What I have described can hardly be exaggerated. 

     "What I felt, it seems to me, cannot even begin to be exaggerated; nor can it be understood. I experienced a fire in the soul that I don't know how I could describe. The bodily pains were so unbearable that though I had suffered excruciating ones in this life and according to what doctors say, the worst that can be suffered on earth for all my nerves were shrunken when I was paralyzed, plus many other sufferings of many kinds that I endured and even some as I said, caused by the devil, these were all nothing in comparison with the ones I experienced there. I saw furthermore that they would go on without end and without ever ceasing. This, however, was nothing next to the soul's agonizing: a constriction, a suffocation, an affliction so keenly felt and with such a despairing and tormenting unhappiness that I don't know how to word it strongly enough. To say the experience is as though the soul were continually being wrested from the body would be insufficient, for it would make you think somebody else is taking away the life, whereas here it is the soul itself that tears itself in pieces. The fact is that I don't know how to give a sufficiently powerful description of that interior fire and that despair, coming in addition to such extreme torments and pains. I didn't see who inflicted them on me, but, as it seemed to me, I felt myself burning and crumbling; and I repeat the worst was that interior fire and despair.

     "Being in such an unwholesome place, so unable to hope for any consolation, I found it impossible either to sit down or to lie down, nor was there any room, even though they put me in this kind of hole made in the wall. Those walls, which were terrifying to see, closed in on themselves and suffocated everything. There was no light, but all was enveloped in the blackest darkness. I don't understand how this could be, that everything painful to see was visible." 

[Source: The Collected Works of St. Teresa of Avila, Volume 1, Chapter 32: paragraphs: 1,2,3. Published by Institute of Carmelite Studies Publications, Washington, D.C.]
 
 
46] And if thy eye scandalize thee, pluck it out. It is better for thee with one eye to enter into the kingdom of God, than having two eyes to be cast into the hell of fire: [47] Where their worm dieth notand the fire is not extinguished. -Mark 9: 46-47 (Douay Rheims Catholic Bible)
 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/modern-accounts-of-hell-match-stteresa.html

Feast of St. Teresa of Avila

Saturday, October 15, 2016


Feast of St. Teresa of Avila

















St. Teresa of Avila on an easy way to acquire the prayer of recollection ...
Delight to remain with Him; do not lose such an excellent
 time for talking with Him as the hour after Communion.
 Remember that this is a very profitable hour for the soul; if you
 spend it in the company of the good Jesus, you are doing Him a 
great service. Be very careful, then, daughters, not to lose it. If 
you are compelled by obedience to do something else, try to leave
 your soul with the Lord. For He is your Master, and, though it be
 in a way you may not understand, He will not fail to teach you.
 But if you take your thoughts elsewhere, and pay no more attention 
to Him than if you had not received Him, and care nothing for His
 being within you, how can He make Himself known to you?
When you have received the Lord, and are in His very
 presence, try to shut the bodily eyes and to open the eyes of
 the soul and to look into your own hearts. I tell you, and tell
 you again, for I should like to repeat it often, that if you practise 
this habit of staying with Him, not just once or twice, but wheneve
r you communicate, and strive to keep your conscience clear so
 that you can often rejoice in this your Good, He will not, as I have
 said, come so much disguised as to be unable to make His presence
 known to you in many ways, according to the desire which you have
 of seeing Him. So great, indeed, may be your longing for Him that
 He will reveal Himself to you wholly.
But if we pay no heed to Him when we have received Him, and go
 away from Him in search of other and baser things, what can He 
do? Will He have to drag us by force to look at Him and be with Him
 because He desires to reveal Himself to us? No; for when He revealed
 Himself to all men plainly, and told them clearly who He was, they did
 not treat Him at all well—very few of them, indeed, even believed Him.
 So He grants us an exceeding great favour when He is pleased to show
 us that it is He Who is in the Most Holy Sacrament.
 - Way of Perfection, Chapter 34

Stay a long time after Communion  ... and make frequent Spiritual 

Communions throughout the day to practice the presence of God. 
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Teresa, película completa en español

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NADA TE TURBE - SANTA MADRE TERESA DE JESUS (AVILA)

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Coro Virtual creado para celebrar los 500 aniversario de Santa Teresa de Jesus.

An official VMG virtual choir, "Nada Te Turbe" is one of two virtual choirs produced for the celebration of St. Teresa of Jesus's 500th birthday. The choir is made up of Carmelite Nuns and Seculars from around the world and is accompanied by the Teresian Orchestra of St. James Cathedral in Seattle, Washington, USA. Music composed by Claire Sokol, OCD.

Finally one has to be resolved within onself.There is the need for personal integrity and coherence.Concience is the voice of God reminding us of the truth

You're never going to convince anyone that only you understand the subject, while everyone else in the world misunderstands it.

There is conscience and the grace of God.
You know that your website contradicts the Principle of Non Contradiction.
You know that the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 contradicts the same Principle since you admit there are no known exceptions in 2016 to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

You know that the sedevacantists and traditionalists are assuming that  the baptism of desire refers to a visible instead of an invisible case; someone de facto known instead of a possibility.
You know that the present magisterium is promoting a lie in the interpretation of Vatican Council and you use that same interpretation of the Council.
You know that the present magisterium contradicts the past
magisterium on the dogma EENS. Pope Benedict has said that EENS is no more like it was for the 16th century missionaries. So the magisterium was wrong in the past or is wrong today.You have to choose.
Finally one has to be resolved within onself.There is the need for personal integrity and coherence.Concience is the voice of God reminding us of the truth.

-Lionel Andrades



October 14, 2016
The Principle of Non Contradiction cannot be violated irrespective of the importance of the people or their numbers
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