Tuesday, May 24, 2016

Pope Benedict confirms the message of Fatima

At Fatima Our Lady said the dogma of the faith will be lost ( except in Portugal at some future time) and recently Pope Benedict  announced that the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus was lost.It was no more like it was for the 16th century missionaries.

I mentioned in a previous post 1 that if instead  Pope Benedict announced that the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus has not developed since there are no known exceptions in Vatican Council II to the dogma there would be a world wide uproar.

He did not say that apostasy and heresy has entered the Church and so the dogma of the faith, extra ecclesiam nulla salus, has been officially rejected by the magisterium.

He did not say that the Fatima message made public was incomplete since it does not mention what specific dogma would be lost and in what way was the faith lost or will be lost.This has to be deduced from what is already approved by the Vatican.

He did not say that the magisterium is interpreting Vatican Council II, with an irrationality; with the Ratzinger-Rahner new theology , which makes Vatican Council II a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So the Council becomes non traditional and heretical.

The fault is there not with the Council but with the irrational premise and conclusion used to interpret the Council officially.So in this sense the German priest Fr. Ingo Dollinger is correct when he suggests that Vatican Council II indicates a loss of faith.This is something obvious for those who are aware of the irrational premise (there are known cases of persons saved outside the Church, they are in Heaven without Catholic Faith)  and conclusion ( these known cases are explicit exceptions to all needing to formally enter the Church for salvation)  used by the contemporary magisterium.

With the irrational premise( visible cases of persons saved outside the Church)  and conclusion (these hypothetical cases are visible exceptions to EENS)  the ecclesiology ( understanding the Church as exclusivist or non exclusivist on salvation),  of the Church has been changed.

So there is a new ecclesiology( no exclusivist salvation in the Church) which is non traditional and heretical. This is the new ecclesiology ( there is known salvation outside the Church) of the Novus Ordo and Tradtional Latin Mass.It is approved by the present magisterium. The fault is not there with the Mass but with the ecclesiology(understanding of Church). So in this sense too Fr.Ingo Dollinger was correct.
Pope Benedict refuses to break his silence and say that without the irrational premise( visible-dead theory)  and conclusion( visible salvation outside the Church),
Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus are not a break with Tradition.Without the new ecclesiology( the Anonymous Christian/ all do not need to be card carrying members of the Church) , Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus are not a break with Tradition, I repeat

Pope Benedict wants to maintain the lie.So the dogma is lost.

He refuses to break his silence and say that the old and new Mass can be offered with the old ecclesiology(there is no known salvation outside the Church).He maintains the deception.So the heresy and apostasy indicated at Fatima, is already here.It is being maintained officially by the contemporary magisterium.
If  we do not use the Rahner-Ratzinger new theology, which is based upon an irrational observation( the dead are visible in Heaven saved outside the Church) , then the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is still the same as it was in the 16th century.He is not going to announce this.The dogma has been lost for him.

However for those of us who understand we can still interpret Vatican Council and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus without the irrational premise and conclusion. Then the dogma of the faith will not have not changed.We are not in official heresy and apostasy.-Lionel Andrades


When Pope Benedict 'breaks his silence' it usually is to please the Masons? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/05/when-pope-benedict-breaks-his-silence.html

"My child, they converse of the secret that I gave at Fatima. It is a simple explanation. It could not be fully revealed because of the drastic nature of My message. How I warned and warned that satan would enter into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome. The Third Secret, My child, is that satan would enter into My Son's Church." - Our Lady of the Roses, May 13, 1978
When Father Alonso died at the end of 1981, most of his monumental work on Fatima remained suppressed. However, in one short book approved for publication shortly before his death, Fr. Alonso maintained that the Third Secret refers to a "crisis in the Faith of the Church and to the negligence of the pastors themselves." He based this conclusion on the fact that, as Sr. Lucy indicated in her memoirs, the words spoken by the Blessed Virgin begin: "In Portugal, the dogma of the faith will always be preserved etc."
Fr. Joaquin Alonso writes:
«In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved”: The phrase most clearly implies a critical state of Faith, which other nations will suffer, that is to say, a crisis of Faith; whereas Portugal will preserve its Faith.1
     «In the period preceding the great triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, terrible things are to happen. These form the content of the third part of the Secret. What are they? 

     «If “in Portugal the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved,” . . . it can be clearly deduced from this that in other parts of the Church these dogmas are going to become obscure or even lost altogether.»2 

     «Thus it is quite possible that in this intermediate period which is in question (after 1960 and before the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary), the text makes concrete references to the crisis of the Faith of the Church and to the negligence of the pastors themselves.»3 

     «One conclusion does indeed seem to be beyond question: the content of the unpublished part of the Secret does not refer to new wars or political upheavals, but to happenings of a religious and intra-Church character, which of their nature are still more grave.»

We cannot a create a new moral or salvation theology based on an irrationality.Pope Benedict has done this


Pope Benedict's Avvenire interview contradicts the SSPX General Chapter Statement on extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II


There is an objective mistake in Vatican Council II. Based on this error Pope Benedict said the dogma EENS has 'developed': avoid the error and we are back to the old ecclesiology with Vatican Council II


Pope Benedict's recent interview with Avvenire on extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II was a preparation for the Exhortation on the Synod to be announced this month


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Pope Benedict must be asked to come back to the faith


Card. Ratzinger interpreted Vatican Council II with an irrationality when a rational option was available .He then excommunicated Abp. Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops for not accepting this heretical version of the faith

The excommunication of Archbishop Lefebvre by the CDF Prefect, like that of Fr.Leonard Feeney by the Holy Office (CDF) in 1949, was an injustice.There was no known salvation outside the Church

You can interpret Vatican Council II without the new theology. Try it and see

Pope Benedict should not promote the irrational and non traditional Rahner-Ratzinger new theology based on known exceptions to the dogma EENS

Rahner's Anonymous Christian is main line Catholic theology : coming back full circle http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/03/when-fr.html

The central point of what I want to say



There was an official change in doctrine and dogma in 1949 and it has been expressed officially in Vatican Council II (LG 16, LG 8, NA 2, UR 3,etc)


Chris Ferrara still misses the point : reasons irrationally like Pope Benedict


Mistakes in Vatican Council II : All Catholics can interpret extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the 16th century missionaries


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The mistakes in Vatican Council II


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Can the SSPX and the Franciscans of the Immaculate interpret Lumen Gentium 16 as invisible and hypothetical and not objective, seen in the flesh I keep asking ? :Pope Benedict's theology a rip off


Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI: The Catholic Church Is Absolutely Necessary for Salvation

CDF can see 'the writing on the wall',thousands of Internet posts say the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II can be interpreted according to the old missionaries: Pope Benedict theologically contradicts them



Pope Benedict uses irrational Cushingism as a theology to interpret Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus : he was unaware of the choice


Pope Francis, Pope Benedict and Cardinal Muller use an irrational theology to interpret Vatican Council II and so reject the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus


I interpret extra ecclesiam nulla salus like Fr.Michael Muller and Fr. Leonard Feeney since physically I cannot see, know or meet any exception to the dogma



Vatican Council II can be interpreted with the old ecclesiology and the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus


The FIUV has been of no help to the Fischer More College and the Franciscans Friars of the Immaculate



FIUV representing the ancient liturgy could interpret Vatican Council with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism


Traditionalist theology being controlled


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No denial from Archbishop Pozzo : CDF/Ecclesia Dei will not interpret Vatican Council II with the Feeneyite theology


Abp.Guido Pozzo does not deny it : Ecclesia Dei/CDF use an irrationality and heresy to interpret Vatican Council II

Bishop Williamson is correct. Rome must come back to the Faith before there can be an agreement


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SSPX ask the Vatican to apologise for the excommunication of Abp.Lefebvre and for interpreting Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism


Archbishop Pozzo must not change the teachings of the Church to please his superiors http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/03/archbishop-pozzo-must-not-change.html

Abp. Guido Pozzo wants the SSPX to accept Vatican Council II with heresy


The Level 4 error is there in Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14 of Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/02/the-level-4-error-is-there-in-ad-gentes.html

General Congregation meeting at the Second Vatican Council. File photo courtesy Catholic News Service.

LG 14 was a Level 4 error in Vatican Council II


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CDF Notification on Fr.Jacques Dupuis S.j repeats the error of the 1949 Holy Office Letter : the mistake was placed in Vatican Council in so many passages


All Catholics can do the same : interpret magisterial documents with Feeneyism


There being known salvation is central to the Rahner-Ratzinger new theology


Pope Benedict, Cardinal Kasper's false arguments for Synod Report : Vatican Council II agrees with the dogma extra ecclesiam nullas salus as it was interpreted by the 16th century missionaries



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