Saturday, April 16, 2016

What if Cardinal Burke and Fr. Zuhlsdorf said that there are no known exceptions to Catholic moral and salvation theology ?.Would they lose their religious faculties in Rome?

The Vatican/Vicariate is not allowing priests in Rome to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism. Instead it is obligatory to use irrational Cushingism, the Marchetti-Cushing  theology, to interpret the Council.
Using Cardinal Marchetti's inference, which is non traditional and unreal, is compulsory for all priests in Rome. This is a requirement set for incardination. It has the approval of the liberal rabbis in Italy, Segno and Lara, the Jewish ADL and the Chief Rabbinate of Israel.So there is no tension.
Lay Catholics are unaware that if a priest is to be incardinated in Rome, the Vicariate will expect him to say that every one does not need to enter the Church in 2015-2016 since there are known exceptions to the rigorist interpretation of the dogma .It is obligatory for him to say that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are exceptions to all needing to convert into the Church; all needing to be formal members of the Church, to avoid Hell.1

A priest cannot be incardinated in Rome unless he re-interprets traditional Catholic salvation and moral theology .He has to assume there are known exceptions.2

If he does not assume there are known exceptions then his  ecclesiology will be traditional and exclusivist, as it was over the centuries.
So Vatican Council II has to be interpreted with known exceptions. This means the priest has to say that there are known exceptions, persons saved  without the baptism of water, who are in Heaven in invincible ignorance(LG 16) in 2016, or in the past.He cannot say that Lumen Gentium 16 refers to an invisible case for us.It has to be a personally known case.If it is not a personally known case it cannot be an exception to all needing to be baptised with water for salvation.
LG 16 does refer to an invisible case!This is common sense.However there is a prohibition, being imposed on Catholic religious in Italy. They cannot say this.
So for the FSSP priests in Rome 'there is no change in doctrine in Vatican Council II'.In other words the Council is a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus  (EENS) since there are known exceptions to the dogma EENS and this is magisterial.It is also politically accepted.There is no change in doctrine with the present magisterium but there is a change in doctrine with the pre-Council of Trent magisterium.
So we have priests in Rome saying Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition.This is acceptable to the Vatican and the Vicariate.We do not have priests saying Vatican Council II is not a break with the 16th century missionaries interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This would be trouble for him even though it would obviously be true.
If a priest says Vatican Council II is not a break with Tradition. He could not be allowed to be incardinated here.He would be considered a pre Vatican Council II traditionalists or sedecantist.
He would be saying that LG 16 refers to invisible cases and so 'there is no doctrinal change in the teachings of the Church'. It is in harmony with the pre-Council of Trent Catholic Church. While it is a break with the post Council of Trent Catholic Church.
Even priests who offer the Traditional Latin Mass in Rome are tolerated, and appreciated, by the two popes, when they say that Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition. Since this is the liberal position of the contemporary magisterium which assumes LG 16 refers to visible cases, seen in the flesh in 2016.
This irrationality, this lie is the contemporary theological position of the Vatican.It offical even at pontifical universities and seminaries.
National Catholic Register
Cardinal Raymond Burke and Fr.John Zuhlsdorf interpret Vatican Council II with this irrationality.So Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition. They are repeating the political position of the magisterium.They complain about Vatican Council II.But no one really seems to mind in the Curia or among Catholics at large.
If they said that Vatican Council II is not a break with the dogma EENS and Tradition since LG 16, LG 14, LG 8 etc refer to invisible cases and so there cannot be explicit exceptions to the dogma EENS, they would be in trouble. So they assume or just say that there are known exceptions to the dogma EENS i.e the baptism of desire etc.Fr.Z clarified this for the Establishment sometime back.He rejected the Feeneyite interpretation of EENS.For him there were known exceptions of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance.
Now they are both interpreting Amoris Laetitia(AL).They say doctrine has not changed.AL indicates that a priest or lay man can judge exceptions to the moral law on adultery, concubinage and mortal sin.(AL 301) They can judge when a couple is not on the way to Hell even though they are living in concubinage and have been causing scandal.
Can we really know when someone living in adultery will not be going to Hell? Can we humans judge?
Do you know of any exception in 2016? Can you judge?
Cardinal Burke and Fr. Zuhlsdorf can judge, apparently.
What if they said that there are no known  exceptions to Catholic moral and salvation theology ? Would they be excommunicated ? Would they have their religious faculties removed? Would they be considered anti-Catholic by the present magisterium ?
They would be saying that Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the 16th century missionaries.
Last month Pope Benedict in an interview published in Avvenire said the dogma has been changed. Doctrine has been changed. EENS is not more like it was understood in the 16th century. Vatican Council II has caused a 'development'.
This is heresy. He is denying the centuries old interpretation of the dogma EENS, defined by three Church Councils and he is doing with the use of an irrational premise and inference.
He is not choosing the affirm the dogma EENS by avoiding the irrationality of known exceptions in the present times.
The present magisterium is heretical on faith and morals, because of allegedly known exceptions to traditional Catholic moral and faith theology ? AL reflects the break with traditional Catholic doctrine on morals.
-Lionel Andrades

Vatican/Vicariate is not allowing priests in Rome to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism : incardìnation prohibition


Amoris Laetitia is based on the new doctrine in moral theology i.e known exceptions to the traditional teaching on mortal sin.

Amoris Laetitia is based on the new doctrine in moral theology i.e known exceptions to the traditional teaching on mortal sin.

Vatican/Vicariate is not allowing priests in Rome to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism : incardìnation prohibition

February 3, 2015
This is an error from the pontificate of Pope Pius XII whom the SSPX respects.They do not call him a modernist pope.

January 29, 2015
Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) still assumes on its USA website that the baptism of desire is an exception to the dogma

Fr.Marco Hausmann , Fr.P. Stefano Visintin OSB say there are no exceptions to the dogma, Cardinal Valliani's Vicariate says there are

If you consider the Holy Office or Fr.Leonard Feeney in heresy determines how you interpret Vatican Council II

Fr.Frederico Lombardi does not address doctrinal questions on Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate

Understanding of Vatican Council II which is being forced upon the Fransciscans of the Immaculate is irrational

Fr.Marco Hausmann  in Rome says there are no exceptions while the Vicariate is teaching young lay Catholics that there are exceptions
January 29, 2015
Lay Catholics should contact the Auxiliary bishops of Rome : Vicariate teaches a falsehood
Priestly Fraternity of St.Peter (FSSP) has changed Church teachings on family catechesis, religious education, salvation, mortal sin, ecclesiology...

Rome Vicariate's Ecclesia Mater teaches lay Catholics theology with an irrational premise : Vatican Council II then becomes a break with traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus

Oltre 4000 gli italiani sono stati uccisi e non ci sono rapporti nei giornali locali.

La pillola abortiva è dato alla Azienda Ospedaliera San Giovanni Addolorata in una clinica .Anche in altre ospedali di Roma.
Secondo un rapporto ci sono stati oltre 4000 aborti fatti in ospedale l'anno scorso.
Oltre 4000 gli italiani sono stati uccisi e non ci sono rapporti nei giornali locali.
 -Lionel Andrades
 9 Week Abortion (06)
 Quando sarà Papa Francesco visitare le camere dell'olocausto chirurgi in ospedali italiani?

“What is happening in the Middle East will happen in Europe”

“What is happening in the Middle East will happen in Europe”

At last, a true bishop. Compare Isa Gürbüz, a man who isn’t afraid to face inconvenient truths, with Pope Francis and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, who delude themselves and their people with soothing and suicidal falsehoods, telling themselves and those whom they should be warning and protecting that Islam is a Religion of Peace and that the cure for what ails the West is an inundation of Muslim migrants. Isa Gürbüz sees the future they are inviting, and sees why future generations of free people, if there are any, will regard them as dupes who helped bring about the destruction of Western civilization.
Isa Gürbüz
“‘What is happening in the Middle East will happen in Europe,'” translated from «Was im Nahen Osten geschieht, wird auch in Europa passieren», Tages Anzeiger, April 14, 2016 :
Isa Gürbüz, the Syrian Orthodox Church leader in Switzerland, calls Christians to be vigilant. The agenda of Islam is to take power.
“In 20 or 30 years there will be a Muslim majority in Europe. Half of European women will then wear a hijab.” This prediction doesn’t come from Michel Houellebecq or Thilo Sarrazin, but from Dionysos Isa Gürbüz, the Syrian Orthodox bishop in Switzerland. He resides in the idyllic Lake Zug Arth Capuchin monastery, with two monks and two nuns. From the monastery Mor Avgin, as it is called today, he oversees the 10,000 Syrian Orthodox faithful in Switzerland and 4,000 in Austria.
Isa Gürbüz is busy preparing for the Easter services, which are celebrated in his church in late April. Then his coreligionists will flock in the hundreds to Arth. Together they will pray, sing and debate – in the Aramaic native language, the sacred language that Jesus spoke. The Syrian Orthodox Church is the oldest of all. In her home in the former Mesopotamia, today Syria and Iraq, they are persecuted. “Arth has therefore become a center for the preservation of our endangered religion and culture,” says Gürbüz.
The fate of the Christians preoccupies the bishop.
Easter joy may not come easily for the bishop. He is too busy with the fate of Christians in the Middle East: “What today has caused thousands to join the terrorist groups of IS, Taliban or al-Qaida, is the extension of the genocide of 1915.” At that time nearly two million Christians – Aramean, Syrian and Greek Orthodox – perished, and millions converted to Islam. The Bishop continues: “What is happening to us today began 1,300 years ago.” In the 7th century, the genocide of Christians began, then in the darkness, now in the media spotlight. The agenda of Islam has remained always the same to him, namely to expel the Christians from the Middle East. Also in the coming years, the spirit of terror will reign there.
UN protection zone for Christians
The 51-year-old bishop comes, as do most Syrian Orthodox Christians living in Switzerland, from the eastern part of Turkey, which formerly belonged to Syria. Living at Turkey’s border with Syria at the beginning of the century were still 230,000 Syrians; today there are virtually none left. Turkey is the enemy of Christians, says Isa Gürbüz. He was first a monk at the famous monastery of Mor Gabriel, left in 1989, and then went Southeast to teach Syrian and liturgy at the theological seminary in Damascus. In 1997, he became the first Syrian Orthodox bishop in Germany, before he came to Arth a decade ago….
…Isa Gürbüz can hardly imagine a future Syria without Assad. A better man is not easy to find, he said. Before the war, Syria was the only country in the Middle East where Christians were left undisturbed to live their faith. “If Assad is eliminated, the same thing could happen as in Iraq, where after the fall of Saddam Hussein, democracy failed and Islamist groups took over the reins.” The Arab Spring was for Isa Gürbüz just a game, an interlude. “Because Islam ultimately accepts no democracy, but wants to impose Sharia law.”
The bishop is traumatized by the persecution in the Middle East, so that for him it is a matter of urgency to call for vigilance, especially to churches that are intent on political correctness. It is naive to think that the millions of refugees who are now coming to Europe via Turkey will all adapt and live with the Christians in Europe in peace. Also among the refugees there are terrorists. “Why have the Gulf states, the Emirates and Qatar not taken any refugees?” Because it is their agenda to convert Europe to Islam.
Isa Gürbüz already sees Eurabia in the mind’s eye: the number of Muslims with many children will grow rapidly, will take power and will begin the persecution, he believes. “What is happening today in the Middle East will happen here in Europe.” He do not call for hatred, insists the bishop. Only for him, 1,300 years of history of persecution have taught him not to trust Muslims. He sees the beginnings of fateful proselytizing in Europe by Wahhabi Saudi Arabia and the Turkish Ministry of Religion Diyanet, in mosques in this country….

Magdi Cristiano Allam: The Islamic Invasion of Italy

Magdi Cristiano Allam: The Islamic Invasion of Italy
by Magdi Cristiano Allam

Dear Friends,
Now it is everyday that thousands of clandestines are landing in Italy.
The Public Prosecutor’s office in Palermo which has just arrested some illegal immigrant smugglers, says that every clandestine coming from the Libyan coasts pays between 1200 and 3500 each.  
Matteo Renzi (the Prime Minister) denies that Italy is being invaded by clandestines and condemns Austria because it intends to put up a wall at the Brenner Pass.
And tomorrow Pope Francis will be going to bring his solidarity to the clandestines on the Greek island of Lesbos, asking Greece to favour reception of a greater number of clandestines, despite the fact that the Greeks are worn out by poverty and exasperated with the clandestine invasion.
Dear friends, wouldn’t it be only right to block the criminal activity of the smugglers of illegal immigrants? Wouldn’t it be only right to close the Italian frontiers to this invasion of clandestines? Wouldn’t it be only right to put before the interests of the Italians and Greeks inside their own home [countries] rather than to privilege clandestines?  Wouldn’t it be only right for the Pope to attend primarily to the fate of persecuted Christians on the other side of the Mediterranean, rather than favour the invasion of Islamic clandestines