Saturday, March 26, 2016

Vatican Council II also becomes traditional with the Feeneyite theology. Since LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc refer to invisible cases and so they do not contradict the Athanasian Creed.

    Still searching for his hermeneutic-- pray for Pope Benedict

  • Christopher A. Ferrara

  • Comment from the Remnant Newspaper
  • Benedict Breaks His Silence... with another Leaky Lifeboat 





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      Infallible Athanasian Creed: "
      1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary
      that he hold the catholic faith;
      2. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled,
      without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.
      3. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in
      Trinity, and Trinity in Unity;
      29. Furthermore it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also
      believe rightly the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.
      44. This is the catholic faith, which except a man believe
      faithfully he cannot be saved."
      So was the infallible creed in error?




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          Either the infallible CREED, the Athanasian Creed,
        •  ratified by 2 Councils, either made an error or it didn't. 
        • If it made an error, then the Catholic Church is not 
        • THE Church of Christ.
        • Lionel:
        • There was no error in the Athanasian Creed. The error was there in the Rahner-Ratzinger new theology which assumes there is known salvation outside the Church. This is the innovation. It is interpreting the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus with Cushingism ( there are known exceptions to EENS) and rejecting traditional Feeneyism as a theology( there are no known exceptions to EENS).
        • We simply have to use Feeneyism as a theology once again, as did the 16th century missionaries. Then the Athanasius Creed is not contradicted.
        • There is no change in the Nicene Creed too ( I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins ( and not three).
        • Vatican Council II also becomes  traditional with the Feeneyite theology. Since LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc refer to invisible cases and so they do not contradict the Athanasian Creed.
        • -Lionel Andrades
        • http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/2374-benedict-breaks-his-silence-with-another-leaky-lifeboat

        Archbishop Lefebvre was correct in rejecting Vatican Council II interpreted with the irrationality. May God bless him for that

        25 March 2016


        Twenty five years

        It is very sad that the Great Archbishop died, at least ostensibly, under excommunication latae sententiae. But he and his sons bore a solid witness against all the heresies which have attacked the Church since the 1950s; and one of the worst of those heresies is Sedevacantism.- Fr.John Hunwicke

        http://liturgicalnotes.blogspot.it/2016/03/twenty-five-years.html
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        Lionel: The new theology is based on an irrationality.Vatican Council II was being interpreted with the new theology, with the irrationality. So the Council emerged as a break with the past.

        We now know that Vatican Council II can also be interpreted without the irrationality.The result is not a break with the old ecclesiology.
        At the time of the excommunication this was not known.It was not known especially to the magisterium whose responsibility it was, to inform the Archbishop.

        The Archbishop was correct in rejecting Vatican Council II interpreted with the irrationality. May God bless him for that.
        He was wrongly excommunicated for not accepting a heretical version of Vatican Council II which his sons continue to reject.
        -Lionel Andrades





        SSPX ask the Vatican to apologise for the excommunication of Abp.Lefebvre and for interpreting Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism

        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/03/sspx-ask-vatican-to-apologise-for.html


        Excommunication of Archbishop Lefebvre
        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/03/excommunication-of-archbishop-lefebvre.html

        SSPX ask the CDF for an apology on this issue

        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/sspx-ask-cdf-for-apology-on-this-issue.html


        LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc do not contradict EENS : Abp. Lefebvre's excommunication was a mistake   http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/lg16-lg-8-ur-3-na-2-etc-do-not.html



        Archbishop Lefebvre was correct. However he like Pope John Paul II was not aware that Vatican Council II could be interpreted with an irrational premise or without it. The Council text is neutral.


        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/archbishop-lefebvre-was-correct-however.html


        Archbishop Lefebvre was correct in rejecting Vatican Council II(Cushingism version): the Magisterium was not aware of the false premise during the excommunication


        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/archbishop-lefebvre-was-correct-in.html



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        Happy Easter!



        I wish you all a Happy and Holy Easter.

        He is Risen from the dead to save all who believe in Him and live the teachings of the Catholic Church outside of which there is no salvation, and in which all need to formally enter with faith and baptism (Vatican Council II, AG 7, LG 14) to go to Heaven and avoid the fires of Hell.
        He Died and is Risen as an offering of hope and eternal happiness for the majority of people on earth who are oriented to Hell without Catholic Faith, without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
        It will be Easter for you if you die in the Catholic Church and have received absolution, the forgiveness of your sins, in the Sacrament of Confession.

        Otherwise with un-confessed sins of abortion, euthanasia, sodomy,adultery,immodesty in clothes,robbing of large amounts and  violating the other 10 Commandments, His Dieing and Rising would be in vain for you.

        It will be in vain for you if you have married a non Catholic and are living in adultery, even with the dispensation of an un-believing cleric, who does not accept or teach the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation.

        Easter this month coincides with the Divine Mercy Week of Prayers when Jesus asks us to pray for Protestants and Orthodox Christians,separated brethren, that they may not go to the fires of Hell for all eternity.Our Lord's original words were 'heretics and schismatics.'

        This Eastertide may you have the time to watch some of the videos on the Internet of people who had once died clinically, who went to Hell and returned back to earth, and chose a change in lifestyle.
        For the survivors who returned its Easter. For those who did not make it, whom they saw in Hell, Jesus Death and Resurrection, was in vain. They rejected their inheritance which Jesus won for them on Easter.
        -Lionel 

        Prayer for Jews cancelled yesterday at Good Friday service : Jewish Left fundamentalism



        There was no Prayer for the Jews at the Good Friday service yesterday at the church I attended.It was omitted. Perhaps the same was done in other Catholic churches in Rome.May be Pope Francis gave instructions to eliminate this traditional prayer for the Conversion of the Jews, with 'faith and baptism' (Vatican Council II, AG 7, LG 14).
        Jewish Left rabbis not too long ago forced the Vatican to issue a Document on inter religious dialogue with the Jews.It said there would be no mission to the Jews.Then Pope Benedict said the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus does not exist any more. In an interview with Avvenire, he said the dogma as it was known to the 16th century missionaries had been changed, 'developed'.
        The dogma had also been 'developed' for the Catholic Bishops Conference of England and Wales and so they were appealing on behalf of the Jewish Left ( Masons,Zionists, Kabbalists etc).They wanted the Revised Good Friday Prayer for the Jews in the Traditional Latin Mass, be brought in line with the non-Catholic  version of the Novus Ordo Mass.

        Now the prayer seems to have been removed from the liturgy.It was not prayed at the evening Good Friday service with the Novus Ordo liturgy.

        At the  SSPX service the Good Friday Prayer for the Conversion of the Jews would have been prayed, in its original form.
        -Lionel Andrades



        Church changes traditional de fide doctrine : Interview with Fr Norbert Hofmann SDB - NCRegister

        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/interview-with-fr-norbert-hofmann-sdb.html

        Tear the Vatican Document on the Jews and throw it in the dustbin says Chris Ferrara
        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/02/tear-vatican-docment-on-jews-and-throw.html


         
        Fr. Daniel Couture, the District Superior of Canada issues a controversial statement critical of the Vatican Document on the Jews

        Rabbi Jonathan Sachs : Catholic Faith or fundamentalism
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        No statement from cardinals and bishops criticizing the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith's approval of the political document on the Jews.http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/no-statement-from-cardinals-and-bishops.html

        Popes since the time of Pius XII have in public used irrational, non traditional and heretical Cushingism as a theology - 2 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/popes-since-time-of-pius-xii-have-in.html
        Popes since the time of Pius XII have in public used irrational, non traditional and heretical Cushingism as a theology - 1 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/popes-since-time-of-pius-xii-have-been.html
         
        Ann Barnhardt interprets magisterial documents with Cushingism
        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/ann-barnhardt-is-using-cushingism-to.html
         
        Still no comment from the SSPX on the Vatican heretical document on the Jewshttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/still-no-comment-from-sspx-on-vatican.html
        Traditionalists are still interpreting Lumen Gentium 16 with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/traditionalists-are-still-interpreting.html
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        Cindy Wooden would not know of any exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or Vatican Council IIhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/cindy-wooden-cannot-know-of-any.html
        Catholics are 'the new people of God ','the Church is the new people of God', the new Chosen People, the Elect, outside of which there is no salvation -Nostra Aetate 4, Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/catholics-are-new-people-of-god-church.html
        Vatican Document on the Jews :Pope Francis and the Vatican are 'under seige and surrender', in submission to Satan's lobby http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/pope-francis-and-vatican-is-under-seige.html
         
        Vatican’s Commission for Religious Relations with Jews uses irrational Cushingism as a basic theology
        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/vaticans-commission-for-religious.html

        Irrational Cushingism theology in the Document on the Jews is also there in Redemptorist Missio and Dominus Iesus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/irrational-cushingism-theology-in.html
        Traditionalists like Reuters correspondents use Cushingism to interpret Vatican Council II : Feeneyism cannot be part of the dialogue.
        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/traditionalists-like-reuters.html

        No denial from traditionalists and Catholic journalists : contemporary TLM and Novus Ordo Mass is modernist, accompanied with a heretical theology (for them)
        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/no-denial-from-traditionalists-and.html
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        Cardinal Koch issues a politically correct opinion piece on the Jews which contradicts Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/cardinal-koch-issues-politically.html

        Discrimination Offices could be approached in Britain : English bishops and FIUV withholding information from Catholics
        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/discrimination-offices-need-to-be.html

        Orthodox Rabbinic Statement on Christianity : Jewish Left propaganda, no respect for Catholic doctrines
        Vatican’s Commission for Religious Relations with Jews uses irrational Cushingism as a basic theologyhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/vaticans-commission-for-religious.html
        No denial from traditionalists and Catholic journalists : contemporary TLM and Novus Ordo Mass is modernist, accompanied with a heretical theology (for them)
        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/no-denial-from-traditionalists-and.html

        Cardinal Koch issues a politically correct opinion piece on the Jews which contradicts Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/cardinal-koch-issues-politically.html
         
        Pope Francis and Cardinal Muller interpret the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II with irrationality : manifest heresy
        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/pope-francis-and-cardinal-muller_18.html
        Pope Francis and Cardinal Muller interpret the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II with Cushingism : 'the Church' is in manifest heresy
        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/pope-francis-and-cardinal-muller_17.html
        Pope Francis and Cardinal Muller interpret the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II with Cushingism : this is manifest heresy
        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/pope-francis-and-cardinal-muller.html

         
        Roberto de Matteo wrote a piece on the Pope's Video and heresy and he could not affirm the Feeneyite version of the dogma EENS nor could he state that the video contradicts the Feeneyite version of the dogma http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/roberto-de-matteo-wrote-piece-on-popes.html

        Jimmy Akins writes a politically correct review of the syncretistic, heretical video. The video is an example of official apostasy, magisterial apostasy

        Chris Ferrara and the SSPX bishops use the irrationality of the Letter ( hypothetical-objective exceptions) to interpret Vatican Council II with the hermeneutic of rupture

        Christopher A. Ferrara

         Comment from The Remnant Newspaper.
        March 17, 2016

        Benedict Breaks His Silence... with another Leaky Lifeboat 

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        Not one of those statements says one can be saved without Christian faith.
        Lionel: However the Letter of the Holy Office does suggest that one could be saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) and with the baptism of desire (BOD)  both without the baptism of water  and then it relates it to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
        How can I.I and BOD be related to EENS?  They are both invisible for us.There is no connection between I.I, BOD and EENS. Since I.I and BOD refer to theoretical cases.

        LETTER OF THE HOLY OFFICE 1949 MISTAKES
        Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing (who is not in invincible ignorance, since those cases it is assumed refer to objective persons who will be saved and so are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth.
        Not only did the Savior command that all nations should enter the Church, but He also decreed the Church to be a means of salvation without which no one can enter the kingdom of eternal glory.
        In His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects, necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's final end, not by intrinsic necessity, but only by divine institution, can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing. This we see clearly stated in the Sacred Council of Trent, both in reference to the sacrament of regeneration and in reference to the sacrament of penance (, nn. 797, 807).
        The same in its own degree must be asserted of the Church, in as far as she is the general help to salvation. Therefore, that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member, but it is necessary that at least he be united to her by desire and longing.
        However, this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God.
        These things are clearly taught in that dogmatic letter which was issued by the Sovereign Pontiff, Pope Pius XII, on June 29, 1943, (AAS, Vol. 35, an. 1943, p. 193 ff.). For in this letter the Sovereign Pontiff clearly distinguishes between those who are actually incorporated into the Church as members, and those who are united to the Church only by desire...

        Toward the end of this same encyclical letter, when most affectionately inviting to unity those who do not belong to the body of the Catholic Church, he mentions those who "are related to the Mystical Body of the Redeemer by a certain unconscious yearning and desire," and these he by no means excludes from eternal salvation, but on the other hand states that they are in a condition "in which they cannot be sure of their salvation" since "they still remain deprived of those many heavenly gifts and helps which can only be enjoyed in the Catholic Church" (AAS, 1. c., p. 243). With these wise words he reproves both those who exclude from eternal salvation all united to the Church only by implicit desire...-Letter of the Holy Office 1949

        HYPOTHETICAL CASES ARE CONSIDERED EXPLICIT


        '...the effects, necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's final end, not by intrinsic necessity, but only by divine institution, can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing.'
        '...the effects, necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation' are known only to God ,  and if they ' can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing.', we would not know of any such case. So it cannot be relevant or an exception to EENs. So why did they have to metion it in the Letter? Since they wrongly assumed these were objective cases.They were explicit exceptions for the magisterium.
        Therefore, that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member, but it is necessary that at least he be united to her by desire and longing. This is a reference to a hypothetical  case so why is it mentioned here with reference to EENS ? We have here the beginning of 'a development of dogma' based on alleged known salvation outside the Church.Hypothetical cases are considered objectively known. Then it is inferred that these hypothetical cases are explicit exceptions to EENS.
        'However, this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire,...' So what if God accepts also an implicit desire ? It is an unknown case for us. So what connection does it have with EENS?.
        'those who "are related to the Mystical Body of the Redeemer by a certain unconscious yearning and desire," and these he by no means excludes from eternal salvation...O.K this is theoretical speculation. A lot of goodwill.But what's it doing in this Letter? Is this not a confusion of what is invisible as being invisible, what is speculative as being objective ?
        With these wise words he reproves both those who exclude from eternal salvation all united to the Church only by implicit desire...He reproves those who exclude defacto, known, objective cases of person saved by implicit desire? Why is implicit desire mentioned here when it has no connection with EENS since there are no physically known cases, for it to be an exception to EENS.
         Pius X says only that they are "on the way of salvation." But they need FAITH to be saved. That is why the Holy Office said supernatural faith, not just good faith and good behavior, are necessary for salvation. So, what kind of faith do these people have, given that faith is an infused grace that brings acceptance of propositions, not some vague religious sense?
        "I think this is what Benedict means when he speaks of an evolution of dogma."
        Lionel: He means I.I and BOD refer to objective cases and so they are exceptions to EENS. Similarly LG 16 ( invincible ignorance) is an exception to EENS for him. So there is 'a development of the dogma' for him.
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        No, that is NOT what he means. He means just what he said: that the missionaries' conviction that souls would be lost without faith and baptism was "definitively abandoned" after Vatican II because that conviction does not provide "a real answer to the question of human existence" given the number of pagans in the world. So we need some theory of how they can be saved without Christian faith.
        We need no such theory, nor is any such theory possible. The Magisterium has held nothing more than that those who are not formal members of the Church through no fault of their own can be joined to her in ways known only to God, but that joinder MUST involve supernatural faith, not just being a good egg.
        Lionel: Christopher Ferrara has not commented ever on the error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.Nor has he addressed the issue of this particular error resulting in two interpretations of Vatican Council II. One is with the hermeneutic of continuity and the other with the hermeneutic of rupture.Chris Ferrara and the SSPX bishops use the irrationality of the Letter ( hypothetical-objective exceptions) to interpret Vatican Council II with the hermeneutic of rupture. Then they reject Vatican Council II in which LG 16 refers to known exceptions to EENS. It is the same reasoning used by Pope Benedict.
        For me there are no hypothetical cases being objective. So Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS or the Syllabus of Errors. There is a hermeneutic of continuity.

        -Lionel Andrades
        http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/2374-benedict-breaks-his-silence-with-another-leaky-lifeboat

        Pope Benedict must be asked to come back to the faith



        Rome (Vatican) must say that there is no known salvation outside the Church . In this way 'Rome will come back to the faith' as Archbishop Lefebvre demanded.
        In the recent interview  with Avvenire Pope Benedict  was saying there is known salvation outside the Church.This was a break with the centuries old theology on salvation.
        It is with this obvious error, of there being known salvation outside the Church, that the popes interpreted Vatican Council II. Then they say there is a development of doctrine since they interpret LG 16, LG 8, NA 2, UR 3 etc  as referring to known salvation  outside the Church, and being not invisible but visible cases saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
        "How can LG 14 etc refer to known salvation outside the Church,'" someone should ask Pope Benedict .
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        He will probably say the Holy Office 1949 stated this  in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.'So did they make an objective mistake in Rome in 1949', he should be asked.Where are the cases of people saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance ? Where do they live what are their names?
        He could say that the traditionalists say St.Emerentiana is in Heaven without the baptism of water. He should be asked who saw her in Heaven without the baptism of water, to make this claim? Does the Church recognize that someone had this special gift to see people  saved without the baptism of water? How can it be said St.Emerentiana is an explicit exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)?
        Is this not irrational? And upon this irrationality he (Fr.Joseph Ratzinger) and Fr. Karl Rahner S.J created the new theology.
        Now with this new theology Pope Benedict claims Vatican Council II has developed doctrine on salvation.This irrationality creates a hermeneutic of rupture  with the past.It does away with the dogma EENS on which is based the old ecclesiology.
        Ask Pope Benedict to interpret Lumen Gentium 16(LG) as referring to invisible and not visible cases.Then there will be NO development of doctrine.
        Ask him to confirm this observation i.e he does not know any one saved in invincible ignorance or with a good conscience(LG 16)  and without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church this Easter (2016).
        Tell him to announce that the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 made an objective mistake.It was a magisterial mistake.Also in 1891 Baltimore, when a catechism was issued, no one knew of a baptism of desire which produced the same result as the baptism of water.It was speculation. So it was not relevant to the dogma EENS.There was no connection.
        Ask Pope Benedict to confirm that in 2016 we do not know of any exception to the dogma EENS as it was interpreted by the 16th century missionaries.
        So according to Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) the majority of people on earth are on the way to Hell, since they die without 'faith and baptism'.
        He also does not know any one in 2016 who will be saved or not saved in invincible ignorance,or someone who knows or does not know that Jesus and the Church are necessary for salvation but who did not enter(LG 14) and who will be saved or not saved.
        So LG 14 has no connection with EENS.It is not relevant to EENS since it refers to invisible persons for us human beings.
        It is when he is asked these questions and we get his answers that 'Rome will come back to the faith' as Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre demanded.
        -Lionel Andrades

        NOVEMBER 26, 2015


        Simple way for the SSPX to help Rome return to the Faith

        http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/11/simple-way-for-sspx-to-help-rome-return.html