Thursday, March 17, 2016

Pope Francis, Pope Benedict and Cardinal Muller use an irrational theology to interpret Vatican Council II and so reject the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

Vatican’s doctrine chief: Pope is not a ‘professional theologian’

Maike Hickson
ROME, March 14, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – In a recent interview, Cardinal Gerhard Müller, the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), acknowledged that he must sometimes correct Pope Francis on matters of dogma, noting that the pope is not a “professional theologian.”
Lionel:
Pope Francis, Pope Benedict XVI and Cardinal Muller are denying the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus by 
1) assuming hypothetical cases are objectively known.
2) They assume there is salvation outside the Church because hypothetical cases are living exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
3)They assume the baptism of desire and blood exclude the baptism of water and these are explicit cases, personally known,
4)They assume there were Catholics in the past who saw people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
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In a March 1 interview with the German newspaper Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger, Cardinal Müller was asked about his relationship with the pope and whether he is his strongest opponent. Müller first explains that he had been appointed by Pope Benedict XVI. Concerning Benedict, he adds: “With him, I was closely connected due to the fact that we are both academic theologians, we have the same [German] nationality and share the same world-view.”
Lionel: They both use the irrational theology of Cushingism.
They both interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism.
They both assume the Letter Holy Office 1949 was correct as a new theology.
They are not aware that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with the theology of Feeneyism and then the Council is traditional and in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
They are not aware that the theology of Cushingism is responsible for the hermeneutic of rupture which Pope Benedict has referred to, without knowing its cause.
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However, with the current pope, the relationship is different. “Pope Francis is not a 'professional theologian', but has been largely formed by his experiences in the field of the pastoral care, which is very different here with us [in the West].”
Lionel:
Pastorally he interprets Vatican Council II as a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus,since he uses the irrational inference and is not aware of it.
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Müller stresses that the current pope has “a highly spiritual and theological power of judgment which follows the spirituality of the founder of his own [Jesuit] order, St. Ignatius of Loyola.”
Lionel: St.Ignatius of Loyola did not interpret the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus with innovative Cushingite theology.
The Jesuits have discarded Feeneyism as a theology and so have broken with the Jesuit missionaries of the past.
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 In Müller's eyes, it is “absolutely legitimate” that the pope lets his own life experience influence his papacy. And, he adds: “Thanks be to God, I have lived myself in Southern America for a long time, and so I can understand and assess well all of this [the special pastoral approach of the pontiff].”
The Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger then asked whether Müller must sometimes dogmatically correct what the pope says in his charismatic enthusiasm. Cardinal Müller answers: “That is what he [Pope Francis] has said already three or four times himself, publicly (laughs); and then he gave me a hug so that – as he said – the gossip ceases with regard to this matter.”
Lionel: The pope rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and calls it 'triumphalism'.
Cardinal Muller has also rejected the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in an interview given to Edward Pentin for the National Catholic Register.
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Müller also says that one should not underestimate the theological understanding of the pope.
Lionel: He is a Cushingite like most Jesuits. Cushingism is irrational and heretical. It contradicts the Nicene Creed with ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins'.
He rejects the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is salvation.With Cushingism there is salvation outside the Church.
He re-interprets Vatican Council II as a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Vatican Council II is interpreted according to the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston, which assumed hypothetical cases were objectively visible.
He has rejected exclusive salvation in the Church as was taught by St. Ignatious of Loyola. The basis of his new theology, is an irrationality.
 He is not aware of the mistake in the  Letter of the Holy Office  1949 which has been placed in Vatican Council II (LG 14).He is not aware that an injustice was done by the Jesuits to Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center. It was Cardinal Richard Cushing who was in heresy and not the ex-Jesuit priest from Boston.
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 Müller adds: “Again and again, he [the pope] refers to the teaching of the Church as the framework of interpretation, also in his spontaneous remarks in interviews.”
Lionel:
He interprets magisterial documents with Cushingism and assumes it is the teaching of the Church even though it is a break with the pre-Council of Trent teachings on salvation, ecclesiology, evangelisation, non separation of Church and state,ecumenism etc.The old ecclesiology has been discarded since the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus has been put aside by adding a strange inference.This produces a new theology, a fantasy theology.




He is not advising the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate and the SSPX to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism, to avoid a rupture with the old ecclesiology. He considers the old ecclesiology, which excludes the inference, as being 'ideological'.
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 Therefore, Cardinal Müller also considers the idea that he himself is the “number one enemy of the pope” to be a “fairy tale.”
In Müller's eyes, there is “some intentional disinformation on the side of those who want to claim the pope for their own ideologies instead of understanding him in the light of the teaching of the Church.” He then continues by saying that it must be clear to any clear mind that
…the pope – according to the Catholic Faith – has been established by Christ Himself; and the Congregation for the Faith with its 25 cardinals who are appointed by the pope is the instrument legitimized by the pope in order to help him – and thereby to partake – in the exercise of his universal teaching office. But we [at the CDF] are not called to exercise the art of flattery but, rather, to use our expert knowledge.

Lionel:
…the pope – according to the Catholic Faith – has been established by Christ Himself;
The popes over the centuries affirmed the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The dogma has been rejected by Pope Pius XII, Pope John XXIII, Pope Paul VI, Pope John Paul II, Pope Benedict and now  Pope Francis.

and the Congregation for the Faith with its 25 cardinals who are appointed by the pope is the instrument legitimized by the pope in order to help him

The CDF with its 25 cardinals also interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism.They interpret the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus with Cushingism and this is a break with Tradition. Cushingism is non traditional, innovative,irrational and heretical. Today we have the non traditional phenomenon of 'magisterial heresy'.

 rather, to use our expert knowledge.

It is not expert knowledge:
1) to assume  hypothetical cases are objectively known,
2) there is salvation outside the Church because hypothetical cases are living exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus,
3) the baptism of desire and blood exclude the baptism of water and these are explicit cases, personally known so are relevant to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus,
4) and there were Catholics in the past who saw people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.
-Lionel Andrades




No denial from Archbishop Pozzo : CDF/Ecclesia Dei will not interpret Vatican Council II with the Feeneyite theology
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/03/no-denial-from-archbishop-pozzo.html
Abp.Guido Pozzo does not deny it : Ecclesia Dei/CDF use an irrationality and heresy to interpret Vatican Council II