Read the text of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Then ask yourself where does Vatican Council II contradict this dogma defined by three Church Councils I mentioned in a previous post.1
Where in Vatican Council II is there a break with extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) , as taught by the saints and popes, with the exclusivist ecclesiology ?
We must remember that no where in Vatican Council II does the text say that we must interpret hypothetical cases as not being hypothetical.
There is no text which also says hypothetical cases are explicit, objectively seen and so are not hypothetical.
So when Louie Verrecchio, Fr.Pierpaolo Petrucci, Catholic encyclopedias, Archbishop Augustine Di Noia, Cardinal Walter Kasper and numerous Catholics interpret hypothetical cases as being explicit in the present times, who has given them permission to do this ? Not Vatican Council II!
Being saved with elements of sanctification and truth (LG 8) refers to a hypothetical case.
Being saved with seeds to the Word (AG 11) refers to a hypothetical case.
So they are not defacto, visible exceptions to all needing the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
So the text time Louie Verrecchio for example, writes on Vatican Council II being a break with Tradition ask him to be specific. I ask him to mention the passage where Vatican Council II can be interpreted as a break with Tradition.
When he does suggest a passage, show him that the passage refers to a hypothetical case. Tell him that a hypothetical case cannot be an exception to Tradition; to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors etc.
Tell him you cannot meet any one in 2016 saved as such. So this case can be accepted as a possibility, a theoretical possibility, a speculation but it cannot be an explicit exception to EENS.
Ask him to admit this .
Is it true that hypothetical cases mentioned in Vatican Council II are hypothetical only, ask him?
If he says yes, then ask him if there can be an exception in Vatican Council II to the Feeneyite version of the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
Read the text of the dogma EENS on exclusive salvation in the Church. Then ask your self where does Vatican Council contradict the dogma?Then start educating and correcting just about every one