those things wich is contradictory of Magisterium si not bounding us period
Lionel:
Lionel:
Which magisterium are you referring to.
If you say that the baptism of desire is invisible and not visible( since it really is invisible) then you are in agreement with the pre -1949 magisterium of the Catholic Church.
If you assume that that baptism of desire refers to visible cases( as do most Catholics today) and so is an exception to the centuries old interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, then you are in agreement with the post 1949 magisterium of the Catholic Church.
Which one are you referring to?
John Vennari assumes the baptism of desire refers to a practical exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He supports the magisterium of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. So he rejects the pre-1949 magisterium.
Christopher Ferrara says there are 'no practical exceptions' in the present times to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and so all need to enter the Church with no known exceptions. He is in accord with the pre-1949 magisterium.
-Lionel Andrades
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