If everyone would accept the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by Fr. Leonard Feeney then Vatican Council II would pastorally be in harmony with Tradition.

If all of them would accept the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by Fr. Leonard Feeney then Vatican Council II would pastorally be in harmony with Tradition

Lionel:

1.Fr.Leonard Feeney said that there were no exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

2.For him there were no exceptions of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance.

3.For him hypothetical cases could not be objective exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in the present times.This is something objective and factual.Example, people now in Heaven allegedly saved without the baptism of water are hypothetical cass for us. So they cannot be known exceptions on earth in the present times to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

4.Similarly if someone died allegedly without the baptism of desire in the past centuries, cannot be a known exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in 2016.

This is Feeneyism for me.

So with Feeneyism:

1.There are no exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since humanly speaking there cannot be an exceptions. We cannot know someone who will be saved or has been saved without the baptism of water.This is something known only to God.

2.There are no known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus mentioned in Vatican Council II.There cannot be any.

3.The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance mentioned in Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) is not a known exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It refers to a hypothetical case which objectively cannot be known.

So with Feeneyism, the conclusion for me, is that there are no exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. There cannot be any exceptions known to us on earth.

So in Vatican Council II there are no exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors ( on ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue), the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( outside the Church there is no salvation), the Nicene Creed( I believe in one known baptism for the forgivess of sins and it is the baptism of water.I  do not believe in three or more baptisms for the forgiveness of sins. The baptism of desire for example is not a known baptism.I cannot repeat it. I cannot see it being given. I cannot give it to someone.

So if everyone would accept the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by Fr. Leonard Feeney then Vatican Council II would pastorally be in harmony with Tradition.

-Lionel Andrades