Monday, October 3, 2016

What I believe in is magisterial.

OPEN LINE Friday-- Colin Donovan - Catholic Theology
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What I believe in is magisterial.
 
 Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. -Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.
 
You (Cannnoli)do not want to proclaim this and affirm it.
You do not want to say all Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Orthodox Christians, Protestants and others need to enter the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism' for salvation.They need to be incorporated into the Church as members to avoid the fires of Hell.
I proclaim this without denying Vatican Council II.
I affirm all magisterial documents including Vatican Council II which says :
 
This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. -Lumen gentium 14, Vatican Council II
It is you who reject magisterial documents and do not proclaim the message of Lumen Gentium 14.
I affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
It is Colin Donovan stl., who will not affirm the dogma EENS which is magisterial.
It is the present Vatican Curia and the two popes who are rebelling against Ad Gentes 7, Lumen Gentium 14 and the dogma EENS.
You want me to accept the present rebellion of the Vatican Curia and then you will call it magisterial?
The Vatican Curia is in rebellion with the consistent magisterium of the Church; with the popes. They are also in rebellion with magisterial texts including those of Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1995).
The Catechism of the Catholic Church (845,846,1257) says all need the baptism of water for salvation in the Catholic Church, all need to enter the Church with faith and baptism, the Church is like the Ark of Noah that saves in the flood.This is what I proclaim.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church (1995) does not mention exceptions for me. The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance I accept as theoretical possibilities which would only be known to God if they exist.So they are not exceptions to the dogma EENS for me.


This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. -Lumen gentium 14, Vatican Council II

So I affirm the magisterial documents and would ask the Vatican Curia to the same. I would ask EWTN, Catholic Answers and you to also clearly do the same.
I am in harmony with the consistent magisterium of the Church including the Catechism of Pope Pius X. The Vatican Curia and EWTN and Catholic Answers are opposing the Catechism of the Pope Pius X. For them the baptism of desire refers to visible exceptions in the present times(2016) to people saved outside the Church; without faith and baptism.With an irrational premise they have created a non traditional and heretical conclusion whiich is a rupture with the magisterium of Pope Pius X.They are also in rupture with the 16th century missionaries, to whom Pope Benedict XVI referred to a few months back. He said that EENS was no more like in those times.In other words the present magisterium has approved an innovation, a change, a development.This is the new doctrine, the new heresy which you, Catholic Answers and EWTN proclaim to be considered 'magisterial'.
.-Lionel Andrades
 

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