Monday, October 31, 2016

Medugorje : Our Lady's call to fast


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"I would like the people to pray along with me these days. And to pray as much as possible! And to fast strictly on Wednesdays and Fridays, and every day to pray at least one Rosary: the joyful, sorrowful and glorious mysteries." August 14, 1984


"Dear children! Today I call you especially now to advance against Satan by means of prayer. Satan wants to work still more now that you know he is at work. Dear children, put on the armor for battle and with the Rosary in your hand defeat him! Thank you for having responded to my call." August 8, 1985


"Dear children! Today I call you to begin to pray the Rosary with a living faith. That way I will be able to help you. You, dear children, wish to obtain graces, but you are not praying. I am not able to help you because you do not want to get started. Dear children, I am calling you to pray the Rosary and that your Rosary be an obligation which you shall fulfill with joy. That way you shall understand the reason I am with you this long. I desire to teach you to pray. Thank you for having responded to my call." June 12, 1986


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"You know that I love you and am coming here out of love, so I could show you the path of peace and salvation for your souls. I want you to listen to me and not permit Satan to seduce you. Dear children, Satan is strong enough! Therefore, I ask you to dedicate your prayers so that those who are under his influence may be saved. Give witness by your life, sacrifice your lives for the salvation of the world. Therefore, little children, do not be afraid. If you pray, Satan cannot injure you, not even a little, because you are God's children and He is watching over you. Pray, and let the Rosary always be in your hands as a sign to Satan that you belong to me." (February 25, 1989)


Lenten fasting bread from MedjugorieMedjugorje Lenten Bread. Fridays are a traditional day to fast with bread and water.


http://www.medjugorjelive.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11870
http://www.medjugorjeusa.org/fastingmessage.htm
http://www.medjugorje.org/livingmessages.htm#fasting
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/503488433311145381/

Church Militant TV: BREAD AND WATER: Michael calls for a break and water nine day fast

BREAD AND WATER

The future of the world is at stake, and more importantly, the future of countless millions of souls.


the Vortex

http://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-bread-and-water

Cardinal Ratzinger and Archbishop Lefebvre did not know : with Feeneyism Vatican Council II affirms an Ecumenism of Return, Social Reign of Christ the King and no known salvation outside the Church

Cardinal Ratzinger and Archbishop Lefebvre did not know that with Feeneyism Vatican Council II does not have a hermeneutic of rupture .
They did not know that with Feeneyism Vatican Council II would not contradict the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).So there could only be an ecumenism of return.All Lutherans in 2016 need to be incorporated into the Catholic Church to avoid Hell.
They did not know that with Feeneyism Vatican Council II affirms the Social Reign of Christ the King.
They did not know that with Feeneyism Vatican Council II says all Jews and Muslims need 'faith and baptism' for salvation.Since there are no exceptions in Vatican Council II to the dogma EENS as it was known to Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston. -Lionel Andrades

OCTOBER 31, 2016

Cardinal Ratzinger did not know that with Feeneyism Vatican Council II does not have a hermeneutic of rupture ?http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/cardinal-ratzinger-did-not-know-that.html

Flashmob Flash Mob - Ode an die Freude ( Ode to Joy ) Beethoven Symphony No.9 classical music


Flashmob Flash Mob - Ode an die Freude ( Ode to Joy ) Beethoven Symphony No.9 classical music

05:41
En rapport à l'Évangile de ce dimanche 30 octobre, serait-ce une imitation de Zachée @ 1:58 et 3:35 : )
https://gloria.tv/video/Qdp6RnN17z4i2mLm8wzkCkeKD

Cardinal Ratzinger did not know that with Feeneyism Vatican Council II does not have a hermeneutic of rupture ?

Cardinal Ratzinger did not know that with Feeneyism Vatican Council II does not have a hermeneutic of rupture ?
He did not know that with Feeneyism Vatican Council II would not contradict the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), and so would be saying there could only be an ecumenism of return and all Lutherans in 2016 would need to formally be incorporated into the Catholic Church to avoid Hell?
He did not know that with Feeneyism Vatican Council II affirms the teaching on the Social Reign of Christ the King?
He did not know that with Feeneyism Vatican Council II would be saying all Jews and Muslims need 'faith and baptism' for salvation ? -Lionel Andrades



OCTOBER 30, 2016



With Feeneyite Vatican Council II the Catholic Church affirms the Social Reign of Christ the Kinghttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/with-feeneyite-vatican-council-ii.html


OCTOBER 30, 2016


Feeneyite Vatican Council II says Lutherans are on the way to Hell

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/feeneyite-vatican-council-ii-says.html



 OCTOBER 29, 2016


If all of them would accept the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by Fr. Leonard Feeney then Vatican Council II would pastorally be in harmony with Tradition

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/if-all-of-them-would-accept-dogma-extra.html

OCTOBER 29, 2016

If we go back to the interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney then pastorally Vatican Council II will have the hermeneutic of continuity

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/if-we-go-back-to-interpretation-of.html

Sunday, October 30, 2016

With Feeneyite Vatican Council II the Catholic Church affirms the Social Reign of Christ the King.

It was surely right, then, in view of the common teaching of the sacred books, that the Catholic Church, which is the kingdom of Christ on earth, destined to be spread among all men and all nations, should with every token of veneration salute her Author and Founder in her annual liturgy as King and Lord, and as King of Kings. And, in fact, she used these titles, giving expression with wonderful variety of language to one and the same concept, both in ancient psalmody and in the Sacramentaries.
Pope Pius XI, Encyclical Letter, QUAS PRIMAS, #11-12
http://www.catholictradition.org/Encyclicals/primas.html

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With Feeneyite Vatican Council II the Catholic Church affirms the Social Reign of Christ the King.
Feeneyite EENS is a foundational dogma. Upon this dogma we base the traditional teaching on the Social Reign of Christ the King.

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Since there is no salvation outside the Church and there is no known salvation outside the Church, all political and social legislation must be focused on Jesus as he is known in the Catholic Church.This is a priority for salvation.
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Since contrary to the new theology based on the irrational premise, there is no known salvation outside the Church, in the past or in the present.So there must not be a separation of Church and State, for the common good; the salvation of people in general.
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With Feeneyite Vatican Council II in harmony with the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS, Vatican Council II supports the necessity of the Social Reign of Christ the King.
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For Vatican Council II to be in harmony with EENS as interpreted by the 16th century missionaries, all hypothetical references must not be considered objectively seen in the present times.They are simply hypothetical.
The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance refer to hypothetical cases.
Similarly LG 16, LG 8, NA 2, UR 3 etc are all hypothetical cases and do not refer to someone personally known in 2016.
In 1949 for Fr.Leonard Feeney there were no hypothetical cases which were exceptions to the centuries old interpretation of EENS.For the Holy Office and the Archdiocese of Boston, there were.It was here where the Church stood before a new theological road.
The Holy Office took the irrational path and Catholic ecclesiology was de-railed.
If Catholics today would  accept the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by Fr. Leonard Feeney then Vatican Council II would pastorally be in harmony with Tradition.This was observed by a Polish Catholic, on Gloria TV.He made the connection between Vatican Council II and the Fr. Leonard Feeney case.
For Fr. Leonard Feeney there were no exceptions to the dogma EENS. The baptism of desire etc were not relevant or exceptions.This is the reasoning we  need to adopt with Vatican Council II.
With the Feeneyite approach, the centuries-old approach, Vatican Council II has a continuity with the dogma EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, the Catechism of Pope Pius X,the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the rest of Tradition.All these magisterial documents are interpreted with hypothetical cases not being explicit in the present times.
This is rational. The new theology is irrational.Imagine being able to physically see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water who are physical exceptions on earth, for all needing to be incorporated as members in the Catholic Church for salvation in 2016.This is all fantasy.With this nonsense liberal theologians assumes there is known salvation outside the Church. Then they conclude that not every one needs to enter the Church.This is the Cushingite interpretation of Vatican Council II, EENS, the Catechism of Pope Pius X, the Nicene Creed etc.
With Feeneyite EENS and Feeneyite Vatican Council II we avoid the new theology.We eliminate the Cushingite innovation.
-Lionel Andrades

OCTOBER 1, 2015

OCTOBER 28, 2013


Catholics celebrate the feast of Christ the King

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/catholics-celebrate-feast-of-christ-king.html

There is salvation outside the Church for the Lake Garda Statement signatories.It is the same for the contemporary magisterium and the Church at large. So for example, why should the LCWR Sisters seek first the Kingdom of God and his justice within the Catholic Church ? They could also seek it in Buddhism or Hinduism.The theology is approved by the traditionalists
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/08/there-is-salvation-outside-church-for.html
What Social Reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ will Bishop Fellay politically affirm ?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/what-social-reign-of-our-lord-jesus.html



Mons .Lorenzo Leuzzi is also promoting an irrational version of Vatican Council II contrary to the Social Reign of Christ the King
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/11/mons-lorenzo-leuzzi-is-also-promoting.html




USC Videos: Social Kingship of Christ in the U.S
https://youtu.be/cpoauPwY0rU



https://youtu.be/mOpn8pOb7xo

https://youtu.be/5D5uwb3LCx4
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/search/label/Separation%20of%20Church%20and%20State

http://www.onepeterfive.com/just-hearts-true-social-kingship-christ/
https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/liturgicalyear/calendar/day.cfm?date=2015-11-22

Feeneyite Vatican Council II says Lutherans are on the way to Hell.


Pope Francis greets leaders of the Lutheran World Federation during a visit to the Vatican in October 2013 - AFP

Feeneyite Vatican Council II says Lutherans are on the way to Hell.Vatican Council II interpreted with the reasoning of Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston or the 16th century missionaries takes us back to the old ecumenism.It is a different Vatican Council II then the one Pope Francis understands.
Vatican Council II interpreted with Feeneyism would not contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and so the Council II would be saying all Lutherans are on the way to Hell.There are no known exceptions in the present times and the Council cannot be mentioning any exception.
In other words all Lutherans are on the way to Hell without Catholic Faith.However over the last 50 years Vatican Council II is being interpreted with Cushingism.
Luther did not have Catholic Faith when he died. He also died in mortal sin for so many other reasons. He was oriented to the fires of Hell according to Catholic teaching.Catholics who marry Lutherans are living in adultery even if the Cushingite priest says otherwise.

LUTHERANS CANNOT RECEIVE THE EUCHARIST
It is being reported these days, correctly, that Lutherans cannot receive the Eucharist, as the one-world-religion people would want them to do so. However it is not being said that outside the Church there is no known salvation.We do not and cannot know of a Lutheran who is in Heaven without 'faith and baptism' in the Catholic Church.There is no known exception on Oct 30, 2016 to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Those who are saved in imperfect communion with the Church(UR 3), are unknown people in 2016.Imaginary cases. If there was such case in the past, it could not be a known exception to EENS in 2016.Then for us human beings some one in the past cannot be postulated as an exception to the dogma EENS in the present (October 2016).

COUNCIL MINED WITH  HYPOTHETICAL CASES
Vatican Council II is full of these hypothetical cases.They have been placed there, for liberals to interpret them as being objectively known in the present times.Even the conservatives have fallen before this error in reasoning. 
Vatican Council II with Feeneyism as an interpretative theology is saying all Lutherans need to be incorporated into the Catholic Church to avoid the fires of Hell and this is a message which Pope Francis and the leftist Vatican Curia will not convey to the Lutherans.

CATHOLIC BLOGGERS WITHOUT FEENEYISM
Even Catholic bloggers are not covering this point. Since they too do not interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism.Instead for them to it is interpreting Vatican Council II with the innovative and irrational Cushingite new theology.Then they reject the Council and wrongly blame the text of Vatican Council II for their fault.
Without Cushingism, that is assuming there are known exceptions to the dogma EENS, even though there are physically none visible in 2016, Vatican Council II is traditional with the old ecclesiology.The old ecclesiology said Jews, Protestants and Orthodox Christians needed to convert into the Church to avoid the fires of Hell.

So If we go back to the interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney then pastorally Vatican Council II will have the hermeneutic of continuity on ecumenism.

Leonard Feeney is the key to solving all this confusion brought into the Church.

POLISH CATHOLIC ON GLORIA TV
I repeat, if Catholics today would  accept the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by Fr. Leonard Feeney then Vatican Council II would pastorally be in harmony with Tradition.This was observed by a Polish Catholic, on Gloria TV.
Instead the two popes will not interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism.So the Council is a break with Tradition and the traditional ecumenism of return.

HERMENEUTIC OF CONTINUITY WITH ECUMENISM OF RETURN
Vatican Council II has a continuity with the dogma EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the rest of Tradition.This means Luther was outside the Catholic Church and is lost according to teachings of the Catholic Church in Vatican Council II.

MISSING LINK FOUND IN CATHOLIC CHURCH 
Feeneyism is the missing link in the Catholic bloggers interpretation of  the Pope's visit to Lund tomorrow for the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Revolt, where he does not tell Lutherans that they are on the way to Hell and need to enter the Catholic Church.

JESUIT NEW THEOLOGY ELIMINATED
With Feeneyism the new theology promoted by the Jesuits has been eliminated.The new theology was pegged on there being known salvation outside the Church.
With Feeneyism we have a rational way to interpret Vatican Council II and tell Lutherans and other Christians that it is not enough to just believe in Jesus but one has to follow the teachings of Jesus as taught in only the Catholic Church.

NO CITATIONS FOR LIBERALS
With Feeneyism as an alternative interpretation of the Council the liberals, in and out of the Catholic Church, have no citations in Vatican Council II to support their familiar non traditional interpretation on ecumenism.
-Lionel Andrades

SATURDAY, OCTOBER 29, 2016


Feeneyism is the missing linkhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/feeneyism-is-missing-link.html


http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/06/01/pope_to_take_part_in_reformation_events_in_lund_and_malm%C3%B6/1234020

Saturday, October 29, 2016

Feeneyism is the missing link

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If we go back to the interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney then pastorally Vatican Council II will have the hermeneutic of continuity.

If all of them would accept the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by Fr. Leonard Feeney then Vatican Council II would pastorally be in harmony with Tradition.Yes we've finally found the missing link.What causes the hermeneutic of rupture ? When has Vatican Council II a hermeneutic of continuity?
The whole Church rejects Feeneyism and so Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition.
Feeneyism for me is not accepting any exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) since there are no physically known exceptions in the present times.There cannot be any objective exception for us human beings, past or present.
Hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance cannot be exceptions to EENS in Feeneyism.
So a Feeneyite for me would read the text of Vatican Council II and not confuse LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 as being objectively visible in 2016. So they would not be relevant, or an exception, to the dogma EENS as interpreted by Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston or the 16th century missionaries.
Vatican Council II has a continuity with the dogma EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the rest of Tradition.
Feeneyism would accept the first part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which supports Fr. Leonard Feeney and reject the second part which contradicts the first part.
Feeneyism is the missing link.
Feeneyite your interpretation of Vatican Council II and get back to the old ecclesiology.The Council is pro-Tradition. The teachings of the Catholic Church on salavtion are the same before and after Vatican Council II.
There can only be an ecumenism of return in Vatican Council II. Since UR 3 etc are hypothetical and so do not contradict the traditional interpretation of EENS.
All non Catholics with no exception need to be incorporated into the Church as members for salvation, to avoid Hell,since there are no known exceptions outside the Church. There cannot be an Anonymous Christian since there are no known exceptions to the dogma EENS ; there are no known cases of someone being saved outside the visible limits of the Catholic Church to contradict the traditional exclusivist ecclesiology.
So if we attend the Novus Ordo Mass or the Traditional Latin Mass the ecclesiology of the Catholic Church is still the same.The new theology has been eliminated since it was based on there being known salvation outside the Church.Ratzinger-Rahner move over.
With Feeneyism we have a rational way to interpret Vatican Council II.No more gymnastics. No more assuming there are visible people on earth who have died with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water and they are relevant to the dogma on salvation.There are none.
This puts the liberals on the defensive. Once Catholics know that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with Feeneyism there is now an alternative for them.One which they may not like.Also now the liberals have no citations from Vatican Council II to support their 'progressivist' interpretation.We now know that LG 16 is always, always hypothetical.It is always only a possibility and never a known reality.So the liberals cannot any more cite LG 16 as an exception to Feeneyite EENS. Wikipedia would have to correct the on line error.
This means the SSPX and the traditionalists are in a smiling position.Canonically Vatican Council II should no more be a hurdle.The whole game plan has changed. The doctrinal scenario has changed.Vatican Council II is traditional and right up their tree.It is Ecclesia Dei and the CDF who need to affirm Vatican Council II in harmony with Tradition,and they'll have to do it  with Feeneyism.
Times have changed.
-Lionel Andrades



If all of them would accept the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by Fr. Leonard Feeney then Vatican Council II would pastorally be in harmony with Tradition


Yes there is one true Roman Catholic Church and the Catholics are those who believe in Tradition.But there are traditionalists who reject Vatican Council II and liberals who accept Vatican Council II. I am not a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II and neither am I a liberal who accepts Vatican Council II as a break with Tradition. I accept Vatican Council II in harmony with Tradition.In which category are you in?

Is this not complicated for you?
Not for me.
Most Catholics including the present magisterium have used an irrational premise to interpret Vatican Council II. The traditionalists use this premise and do not like the non traditional conclusion.So they reject Vatican Council II. While the liberals use the same false premise and reach a non traditional conclusion and like it. So they accept Vatican Council II with this innovation.
If all of them would accept the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted by Fr. Leonard Feeney then Vatican Council II would pastorally be in harmony with Tradition.-Lionel Andrades

OCTOBER 29, 2016

If we go back to the interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney then pastorally Vatican Council II will have the hermeneutic of continuity

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/if-we-go-back-to-interpretation-of.html



https://gloria.tv/video/aKZLQrSpm8Gb3mW47P6Cs1nT7/postings/

Be thou my vision - (with lyrics)

https://youtu.be/6CMclLT_Hjg

If we go back to the interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney then pastorally Vatican Council II will have the hermeneutic of continuity


Comment on Gloria TV
It is true that there have been unholy fruits from Vatican Council II. However you mean Vatican Council II interpreted with Cushingism as a theology. You mean a Vatican Council II interpreted with a false prremise of being able to see or know people in the present times saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. So the conclusion is non traditional.
This false interpretation of Vatican Council II cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit.
However inspite of this general error Vatica Council II can be interpreted without the false premise of the baptism of desire etc being visible in 2016.
If we go back to the interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney then pastorally,as one clear thinking commentators at Gloria TV said, Vatican Council II will have the hermeneutic of continuity.It is this Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) which in future will bring forth good fruit.
-Lionel Andrades

How to stay away from sin | Fr.Don Reto Nay

https://youtu.be/rtrS52jbYlk

Battle of Milvian Bridge

Battle of Milvian Bridge

Edit: in 312 on October 28th, the Emperor Constantine defeated the forces of Maxentius at the Battle of Milivian Bridge.  His victory was not only decisive in a political sense, but in a religious dimension as well since Constantine attributed his victory the divine intervention, more specifically, the intervention of Christ.  This victory and Constantine's own conversion and personal intervention in later passing the Edict of Toleration, led to the triumph of Christianity over pagan Rome.
http://eponymousflower.blogspot.it/

Do you see the mistake made by Archbishop Augustine di Noia in the text ?

I mentioned in a previous comment that Vatican Council II is not a break with Tradition in itself.
It is only a break with Tradition if:-
1.It is assumed that hypothetical cases are not hypothetical but objectively visible in 2016.
2.It is assumed that Fr.Leonard Feeney was in heresy and not Cardinal Cushng the Archbishop of Boston.
3.It is assumed that Cushingism is the acceptable new theology which replaces Feeneyism.
Do you see the mistake made by Archbishop Augustine di Noia in the text quoted below?

ARCHBISHOP AUGUSTINE DO NOIA : ASSUMES WHAT IS KNOWN ONLY TO GOD CAN BE KNOWN AND JUDGED BY US HUMAN BEINGS.

I don’t know if you can blame this on the Council so much as the emergence of a theological trend that emphasized the possibility of salvation of non-Christians. But the Church has always affirmed this, and it has never denied it. …The Council did say there are elements of grace in other religions, and I don’t think that should be retracted. I’ve seen them, I know them — I’ve met Lutherans and Anglicans who are saints.' - Archbishop Augustine di Noia ( 07/01/2012 ), Archbishop Di Noia, Ecclesia Dei and the Society of St. Pius X, National Catholic Register.

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/archbishop-dinoia-ecclesia-dei-and-the-society-of-st.-pius-x/#ixzz3Q1Vx3byR

 

 ANALYSE HIS NON ORTHODOX STATEMENT 

But the Church has always affirmed this, and it has never denied it.

Lionel:

Here he iinfers  that there is known salvation outside the Church. He infers that Vatican Council II says there is known salvation outside the Church.He means the baptism of desire refers to the possibility of salvation outside the Church and so also being saved in invincible ignorance. However this possibility is a personally known case for him. Someone objectively visible.Otherwise why would he mention it with reference to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, which says all need to be incorporated into the Catholic Church as members?

Known salvation is the key. If there is known salvation outside the Church then the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the 16th century missionaries has been changed.There is an exception even when the dogma suggests there is no exception(Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441). 

The Council did say there are elements of grace in other religions, and I don’t think that should be retracted.

Lionel:

He infers here that Lumen Gentium 8, 'elements of sanctification and grace' , refer to known cases, objectively visible cases and so it is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Can we know of someone saved with 'elements of sanctification and truth' in 2016 or over the last 20 years, or in the past?

 I’ve seen them, I know them — I’ve met Lutherans and Anglicans who are saints.'

Lionel:

Here he actually says that he can judge them! He can know of people who will go to Heaven who are not members of the Catholic Church.He suggests that he knows of Anglicans and Lutherans who will not die with mortal sin on their soul in the future. So not only can Jesus judge them but he too can judge individual cases!

1.It is assumed that hypothetical cases are not hypothetical but objectively visible in 2016.For Archbishop Di Noia LG 8 refers to a visible case.It is not just a hypothethetical case.
2.It is assumed that Fr.Leonard Feeney was in heresy and not Cardinal Cushing, the Archbishop of Boston.
Archbishop Di Noia assumes Fr.Leonard Feeney was in heresy for affirming EENS in which hypothetical cases were NOT exceptions to the dogma.
3.It is assumed that Cushingism is the acceptable new theology which replaces Feeneyism.
The members of the CDF/Ecclesia Dei are Cushingites. They assumes imaginary cases are not imaginary in the present times. They infer hypothetical cases are not hypothetical.So with this irrational premise they then conclude that Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition.
They know there is a choice.They know that if they accept EENS according to Fr. Leonard Feeney then pastorially Vatican Council Ii would be reconciled with EENS and Tradition.
Do you see the mistake made by Archbishop Augustine di Noia in the text quoted above?
-Lionel Andrades
 

Friday, October 28, 2016

I know what I am saying will be new for you.It will be new for most Catholics


I know what I am saying will be new for you.
It will be new for most Catholics


Yes. Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition only if you use an irrational premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
Try it and see.
Give me an example from Vatican Council II. Where does Vatican Council II contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ?
If Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus then there is no change in the teachings on ecumenism, other religions and the Social Reign of Christ the King.
Give me an example please.

__________________________

Vatican Council II is not a break with Tradition in itself.

It is only a break with Tradition if:-

1.It is assumed that hypothetical cases are not hypothetical but objectively visible in 2016.

2.It is assumed that Fr.Leonard Feeney was in heresy and not Cardinal Cushng the Archbishop of Boston.

3.It is assumed that Cushingism is the acceptable new theology which replaces Feeneyism.

If you and I are discusing something and I use a different premise then our conclusion will be different. This is what happened with Vatican Council II and it can be corrected.

You read Vatican Council II with a premise at Lumen Gentium 16, for example. I do not.

You assume it(LG 16) refers to known cases of someone saved in invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water. I do not.

So for you Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors.Not for me.
-Lionel Andrades

https://gloria.tv/video/aKZLQrSpm8Gb3mW47P6Cs1nT7/postings/