Vatican Council II (Cushingite) has erred but it can be re-intepreted with Feeneyism: Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) is not heretical

Conclusion:

Vatican Council II (Cushingite) has erred but it can be re-interpreted with Feeneyism.Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) is not heretical.

So in conclusion I agree with Bishop Robert Sanborn  since Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) would be heretical.I also agree with Dr.Robert Fastiggi, since Vatican Council II ( Feneyite) is not heretical.

Bishop Sanborn assumed hypothetical cases were explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( EENS-Feeneyite).Dr.Fastiggi was trying to interpret hypothetical cases as being only hypothetical and so for him they were not exceptions to EENS.So Vatican Council II would be in agreement with St. Robert Bellarmine for him.

I would choose to interpret Vatican Council II like Dr.Fastiggi since it would come across as rational and traditional.Dr.Fastiggi wanted to reconcile Vatican Council II with the past.This desire was strong in him.It was good.

I would also avoid the errors in Vatican Council II (Cushingite) which Bishop Sanborn correctly pointed out.

Vatican Council Ii supports St. Robert Bellamine on outside the Church there is no salvation.It does not contradict the Syllabus of Errors.

I think the two speakers were a good example of dialogue and they helped me to understand, how they think about Vatican Council II and the Church at large.

-Lionel Andrades

MONDAY, JUNE 27, 2016

Ecclesiology Debate: Bp. Donald Sanborn vs. Dr. Robert Fastiggi (2004) : irrational non traditional Cushingite theology adopted

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/ecclesiology-debate-bp-donald-sanborn.html

JUNE 27, 2016

Bishop Robert Sanborn and Dr.Robert Fastiggi are unaware of Cushing theology and irrational reasoning : at the centre of their debate is really the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/bishop-robert-sanborn-and-drrobert.html

Both of them would at times refer to an EENS or a Vatican Council II which is Cushingite or Feeneyite, I could just watch the mix up,sadly.I could see through the mistake they are both making innocently http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/both-of-them-would-at-times-refer-to.html

St.Robert Bellarmine and St. Augustine were Feeneyite in their ecclesiology as were the popes of their times.The popes since Pius XII to Pope Francis have accepted the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/strobert-bellarmine-and-st-augustine.html

TUESDAY, JUNE 28, 2016

Bp. Donald Sanborn and Dr. Robert Fastiggi are mixing up Cushingism and Feeneyism as a theology  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/bp-donald-sanborn-and-dr-robert.html

The 23,000 bishops and the Vicar of Christ assumed hypothetical cases were explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS-Feeneyite) : Cushingism is a break with St. Robert Bellarmine

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/the-23000-bishops-and-vicar-of-christ.html

So compared to the time of St. Robert Bellarmine we have a new ecclesiology and soteriology with heretical consequences: the Feeneyite theology of St. Robert Bellarmine is replaced with Cushingism

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/so-compared-to-time-of-st-robert.html

Lumen Gentium 8 reflects the new theology, Cushingism: it has to be re-interpreted with rational Feeneyism

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/lumen-gentium-8-reflects-new-theology.html

There is continuity with the past if Feeneyism is the theology used to interpret Vatican Council II. There is no continuity with the past if Cushingism is the theology.The theology of Pope John Paul II like that of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was Cushingite

 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/there-is-continuity-with-past-if.html

The Council Fathers erred  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/the-council-fathers-erred.html

This is un-precedented. We are faced with magisterial heresy.We have a Council which has approved heresy

 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/10640-this-is-unprecedented-situation.html

The inferences of Bishop Sanborn and Dr. Fastiggi are mistaken.They have used the irrational premise of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and have accepted the non traditional inference

 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/the-inferences-of-bishop-sanborn-and-dr.html

I don't think we need to eliminate Vatican Council II.We only need to re-interpret it with Feeneyism http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/i-dont-think-we-need-to-eliminate.html

_____________________________________________