Pope Benedict Breaks His Silence On
“Deep Crisis”
Theologically he has not rejected the
Anonymous Christian theory of his friend
Fr. Karl Rahner. Since the Catechism of the
Catholic Church 846 says all who are saved
are saved through Jesus and the Church.
He means there is salvation outside the
Church and a person can be saved in another
religion through Jesus and the Church.
Anonymous Christian theory of his friend
Fr. Karl Rahner. Since the Catechism of the
Catholic Church 846 says all who are saved
are saved through Jesus and the Church.
He means there is salvation outside the
Church and a person can be saved in another
religion through Jesus and the Church.
This 'new theology' is based on the error
in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.The
Letter wrongly assumed hypothetical cases
were known exceptions to the dogma extra
ecclesiam nulla salus.(EENS). So it
wrongly assumed that there were known
cases of people saved with the baptism
of desire or invincible ignorance, without
the baptism of water.
in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.The
Letter wrongly assumed hypothetical cases
were known exceptions to the dogma extra
ecclesiam nulla salus.(EENS). So it
wrongly assumed that there were known
cases of people saved with the baptism
of desire or invincible ignorance, without
the baptism of water.
This is false. Since no one in the present
or past, could have seen, known or met
someone saved without the baptism of
water. These cases would have been in
Heaven.
or past, could have seen, known or met
someone saved without the baptism of
water. These cases would have been in
Heaven.
However for Pope Benedict there is
salvation outside the Church and so
he rejects the dogma EENS.It is
upon this irrationality, of being able to
see people in Heaven who are exceptions to
EENS, that he has rejected the dogma EENS
and assumes there is salvation outside the
Catholic Church.
salvation outside the Church and so
he rejects the dogma EENS.It is
upon this irrationality, of being able to
see people in Heaven who are exceptions to
EENS, that he has rejected the dogma EENS
and assumes there is salvation outside the
Catholic Church.
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Below, I have posted the full text of what Pope Emeritus
Benedict said in the interview section referred to
regarding the Anonymous Christian. I am still trying to
work through what he said on my own trying to
see if he fully rejected the anonymous Christian or if
he was seeking to clarify that salvation only comes
through Christ even if one does not fully know Christ.
regarding the Anonymous Christian. I am still trying to
work through what he said on my own trying to
see if he fully rejected the anonymous Christian or if
he was seeking to clarify that salvation only comes
through Christ even if one does not fully know Christ.
Lionel: This is not the issue. Here he refers to
a hypothetical issue. It is theoretical.Speculative.
The issue is does every one need to be a formal
member of the Church for salvation? This was
rejected by Fr.Rahner since he accepted salvation
outside the Church. So did Fr.Ratzinger. Their
new theology was based on salvation outside
the Church. There were exceptions to the
Feeneyite interpretation of EENS.
a hypothetical issue. It is theoretical.Speculative.
The issue is does every one need to be a formal
member of the Church for salvation? This was
rejected by Fr.Rahner since he accepted salvation
outside the Church. So did Fr.Ratzinger. Their
new theology was based on salvation outside
the Church. There were exceptions to the
Feeneyite interpretation of EENS.
So since there were exceptions it mean
someone could be saved in another religion.
He would be saved through Jesus and the
Church (CCC 846). So we have the Anonymous
Christian according to the Catechism of the
Catholic Church approved by Cardinal Ratzinger
and Cardinal Schonborn.
someone could be saved in another religion.
He would be saved through Jesus and the
Church (CCC 846). So we have the Anonymous
Christian according to the Catechism of the
Catholic Church approved by Cardinal Ratzinger
and Cardinal Schonborn.
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I appreciated your answer above and wondered
if the full text changes your interpretation of wha
t the pope emeritus meant versus what the reporter
wrote (and if so, how)?
if the full text changes your interpretation of wha
t the pope emeritus meant versus what the reporter
wrote (and if so, how)?
Lionel:It does not change what I wrote
above.
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above.
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Thank you very much!
"Lately several attempts have been formulated
in order to reconcile the universal necessity
of the Christian faith with the opportunity to
save oneself without it.
in order to reconcile the universal necessity
of the Christian faith with the opportunity to
save oneself without it.
Lionel: 'With the opportunity to save
oneself without it'?! He considers it
a possibility.
oneself without it'?! He considers it
a possibility.
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I will mention here two: first, the well-known
thesis of the anonymous Christians of Karl Rahner.
thesis of the anonymous Christians of Karl Rahner.
Lionel: Which is based on 'the opportunity
to save oneself without being a formal
member of the Church' and is part of
the new theology incorporated in CCC
846 and 1257.
to save oneself without being a formal
member of the Church' and is part of
the new theology incorporated in CCC
846 and 1257.
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He sustains that the basic, essential act at the
basis of Christian existence, decisive for salvation,
in the transcendental structure of our
consciousness, consists in the opening to the
entirely Other, toward unity with God. The Christian
faith would in this view cause to rise to
consciousness what is structural in man as such.
So when a man accepts himself in his essential
being, he fulfills the essence of being a Christian
without knowing what it is in a conceptual
way. The Christian, therefore, coincides with
the human and, in this sense, every man who
accepts himself is a Christian even if he does
not know it.
basis of Christian existence, decisive for salvation,
in the transcendental structure of our
consciousness, consists in the opening to the
entirely Other, toward unity with God. The Christian
faith would in this view cause to rise to
consciousness what is structural in man as such.
So when a man accepts himself in his essential
being, he fulfills the essence of being a Christian
without knowing what it is in a conceptual
way. The Christian, therefore, coincides with
the human and, in this sense, every man who
accepts himself is a Christian even if he does
not know it.
Lionel: The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla
salus says outside the Church there is
no salvation. Cantate Dominio, Council
of Florence 1441 mentions schismatics
( Orthodox Christians) and heretics
( Protestants) being on the way to
Hell. They believe in God and even
believe in Christ.
salus says outside the Church there is
no salvation. Cantate Dominio, Council
of Florence 1441 mentions schismatics
( Orthodox Christians) and heretics
( Protestants) being on the way to
Hell. They believe in God and even
believe in Christ.
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It is true that this theory is fascinating,
but it reduces Christianity itself to a pure
conscious presentation of what a human
being is in himself and therefore overlooks
the drama of change and renewal that is
central to Christianity.
but it reduces Christianity itself to a pure
conscious presentation of what a human
being is in himself and therefore overlooks
the drama of change and renewal that is
central to Christianity.
Lionel: Words.The real issue is that there is
no known salvation outside the Church.
So there are no known exceptions to
the dogma EENS.
no known salvation outside the Church.
So there are no known exceptions to
the dogma EENS.
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Even less acceptable is the solution proposed
by the pluralistic theories of religion, for which
all religions, each in their own way, would be
ways of salvation and in this sense, in their effects
must be considered equivalent.
by the pluralistic theories of religion, for which
all religions, each in their own way, would be
ways of salvation and in this sense, in their effects
must be considered equivalent.
Lionel: The International Theological
Commission in a theological paper
titled Christianity and the World
Religions supports a theology of
religions. It was approved by Cardinal
Ratzinger.
Commission in a theological paper
titled Christianity and the World
Religions supports a theology of
religions. It was approved by Cardinal
Ratzinger.
This was possible since there is salvation
outside the Church for Pope Benedict
and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria
( Ex-President,ITC).
outside the Church for Pope Benedict
and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria
( Ex-President,ITC).
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The critique of religion of the kind exercised
in the Old Testament, in the New Testament
and in the early Church is essentially more
realistic, more concrete and true in its
examination of the various religions.
Such a simplistic reception is not
proportional to the magnitude of the issue."
in the Old Testament, in the New Testament
and in the early Church is essentially more
realistic, more concrete and true in its
examination of the various religions.
Such a simplistic reception is not
proportional to the magnitude of the issue."
Lionel: I don't know what he is referring
to here.
to here.
-Lionel Andrades
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