Saturday, April 30, 2016

Cardinal Burke interprets Vatican Council II like Fr.Hans Kung: contradicting the infallibility of the pope ex cathedra

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Maybe I've misread you and the Lionhearted Cardinal... but when Cardinal Burke says that AL is not magisterial, he says, in effect, that it can't be binding -- it has no binding authority because lack of clarity and exhortatory observations can't bind...

Lionel :
Cardinal Burke has also said that the 'only key to the correct interpretation of Amoris Laetitia is the constant teaching of the Church and her discipline that safeguards and fosters this teaching'. He continues   : 'In other words, a post-synodal apostolic exhortation, by its very nature, does not propose new doctrine and discipline, but applies the perennial doctrine and discipline to the situation of the world at the time.'
'does not propose new doctrine and discipline, but applies the perennial doctrine and discipline to the situation of the world at the time.'
For  Cardinal Raymond Burke, Catholic theology must assume subjective cases  are objective. It must mix up and confuse what is implicit as being explicit, invisible as being visible. It must negate standard forms of philosophical reasoning, contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction and reject magisterial documents with an irrational premise and inference to create a non traditional theology.
 For the cardinal, whom I still admire and respect, Lumen Gentium 16 refers to objective persons.The baptism of desire is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.LG 16 is not  hypothetical for him as it is for me.Instead it is an objective exception to the perennial doctrine on exclusive salvation in the Church.This is his new salvation theology.

Similarly there are known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of mortal sin for Cardinal Burke.Since he approves the moral theology expressed in  AL 301.
He approves  AL saying that there will be a case by case study of people living in manifest mortal sin, meaning it will be judged who is not in mortal sin and is on the way to Heaven with Sanctifying Grace.He is saying that he can judge who is living in mortal sin and will not go to Hell.
This is contrary to the Council of Trent and Veritatis Splendor of Pope John Paul II. He is saying it is possible to  judge.There could be some Catholics, for him,  whose subjectivity can be judged.So it will be concluded that they are exceptions to the teachings on mortal sin.Hypothetical, subjective factors are explicitly knowable to determine, when God will not condemn a person living in mortal sin !
 
So in , morals and faith, there is a new doctrine, which changes traditional Catholic faith and moral theology and this is fine with him.The new doctrine says that every one does not need to be a formal member of the Catholic Church for salvation since there are known exceptions and every one who is living in traditional manifest mortal sin may not be in mortal sin, since there are known exceptions. 

So with the new theology ( based on being able to judge subjective factors as being sufficient to reject mortal sin) doctrine has been changed de jure (there are judgeable exceptions to mortal sin) and de facto ( there are judgeable known exceptions to persons living in mortal sin).The change is there in principle and in fact in morals and this is the new doctrine accepted by Cardinal Burke.

Similarly with the new theology, doctrine has been changed also on faith. De jure ( there are judgeable cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, without the baptism of water).This is accepted by Cardinal Burke. It is nothing new.So de facto there are judgeable, known exceptions in the present times to the dogmatic teaching on all needing to be formal members of the Catholic Church.So there is a new doctrine in principle and in fact on faith (salvation).Extra ecclesiam nulla salus, for Cardinal Burke is no more like it was in the 16th century.
 

So we have Cardinal Burke assuming we can judge subjective cases with Protestant situation ethics, a subjectivism made objective. This  is not humanly possible. Since only God can judge if someone in mortal sin will not be going to Hell or has Sanctifying Grace.However for the cardinal  there can be known exceptions projected against the traditional teaching on morals and faith.The doctrinal change based on a theological innovation can be known implicitly in Amoris Laetitia.Since AL 301 explicity tells us what was the theology used. Implicitly we know that the new theology was used based on being able to judge subjective or social factors and then concluding that there are objective exceptions to mortal sin.This is normal for Cardinal Burke.

He does not see how judgements of hypothetical cases result in a non traditional and heretical conclusion.He mixes up what is hypothetical as being objective and known. It is with this subjectivism that he interprets Vatican Council II as a break with the dogma EENS and Tradition in general. With his subjectivism he changes the Nicene Creed to 'I believe in three or more known baptisms and they include the baptism of desire and blood...'With known exceptions to the dogma EENS he has rejected the Athanasius Creed and the dogma EENS itself, defined by three Church Councils. He is contradicting the pope being infallible ex cathedra, especially when the Church Councils defined EENS.Related image
He interprets Vatican Council II like Fr. Hans Kung S.J who assumes LG 16 refers to known cases, objectively saved without the baptism of water. So LG 16 is a break with the dogma EENS for Fr. Kung. So with invisible cases being visible, Vatican Council II contradicts the infallibility of the popes ex cathedra, in defining EENS,  according to  some of his early writings.He said Fr. John Courtney Murray did what no one in Church history could do i.e refute the teaching in the infallibility of the pope ex cathedra. He does not realize that this is only possible by assuming hypothetical cases are objectively known to be exceptions to EENS.
For me this is all heresy. We cannot in principle and in fact change the meaning of the Nicene Creed, reject a defined dogma, interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational inference  and project exceptions to the traditional teachings on faith and morals. This is a break with  'the perennial doctrine and discipline'.It contradicts 'the constant teaching of the Church'.
-Lionel Andrades
 
http://pblosser.blogspot.it/2016/04/just-what-german-hierarchy-has-been.html



Fr.Gaudron, like Cardinal Burke and Joseph Shaw does not see how judgement of hypothetical cases result in a non traditional conclusion in Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/father-matthias-gaudron-like-cardinal.html

For Burke and Shaw subjective cases are objective, this is the norm.So they interpret Vatican Council II as a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/for-burke-and-shaw-subjective-cases-are.html
 

 

Bp. Schneider: Sex or the Sacraments?


Bp. Schneider: Sex or the Sacraments?
 
by Bradley Eli, M.Div., MA.Th.  •  ChurchMilitant.com  •  April 28, 2016                                     

Asks Pope to clarify that adulterous couples must refrain from physical relations to receive sacraments

VATICAN (ChurchMilitant.com) - Bishop Athanasius Schneider is asking the Pope to confirm that those living in irregular unions must refrain from marital relations in order to receive the sacraments.
His Excellency, auxiliary bishop of Astana, Kazakhstan, is responding to the Pope's recent apostolic exhortation, "Amoris Laetitia" (AL), which he says is being interpreted contrary "to the perennial teaching of the universal Magisterium" by priests and even bishops.
In an approved translation published in Crisis Magazine, he's requesting Pope Francis to reaffirm Pope St. John Paul II's statement in paragraph 84 of his 1981 apostolic exhortation "Familiaris Consortio," which states: "Reconciliation in the sacrament of Penance, which would open the way to the Eucharist, can only be granted to those who take on themselves the duty to live in complete continence, that is, by abstinence from the acts proper to married couples."
His excellency laments, "This formula is unfortunately and incomprehensibly missing in AL."
Schneider points out that footnote 329 of AL seemingly contradicts this "perennial teaching":
In such situations, many people, knowing and accepting the possibility of living "as brothers and sisters" which the Church offers them, point out that if certain expressions of intimacy are lacking, it often happens that faithfulness is endangered and the good of the children suffers.
Bishop Schneider says he's making this "contribution to reflection and dialogue on sensitive issues surrounding marriage" in response to the invitation Pope Francis made in paragraph two of his exhortation, which reads, "The thinking of pastors and theologians, if faithful to the Church, honest, realistic and creative, will help us to achieve greater clarity."
Bishop Schneider is viewed by many Catholics as a prominent defender of orthodoxy because he has been urging the Holy See to end the abusive practice of Communion in the hand and to clarify ambiguous phraseology contained in certain documents of Vatican II.
Now his excellency is asking Pope Francis to clarify his recent exhortation, especially chapter eight, which deals with pastoral accompaniment of the divorced and remarried. Schneider reveals,
It is no secret, however, that divorced and remarried couples are admitted to Holy Communion in a number of churches, without their being required to practice continence. It must be admitted that certain statements in AL could be used to justify an abusive practice that has already been going on for some time in various places and circumstances in the life of the Church.
His Excellency says the confusion arises from "the absence of the concrete and explicit affirmation of the doctrine and constant practice of the Church, founded on the Word of God and reiterated by Pope John Paul II."
Especially troublesome to Bp. Schneider is AL's paragraph 305, which reads:
Because of forms of conditioning and mitigating factors, it is possible that in an objective situation of sin — which may not be subjectively culpable, or fully such — a person can be living in God's grace, can love and can also grow in the life of grace and charity, while receiving the Church's help to this end.
Footnote 351 to this paragraph adds to the confusion by saying, "In certain cases, this can include the help of the sacraments."
But as Bp. Schneider points out, the above statement pertaining to the discernment by the divorced and remarried of their worthiness to receive the sacraments is preceded by paragraph 300, which affirms:
[T]his discernment can never prescind from the gospel demands of truth and charity.  For this discernment to happen, the following conditions must necessarily be present: humility, discretion and love for the Church and her teaching, in a sincere search for God's will and a desire to make a more perfect response to it.
Bishop Schneider is thus calling for "an authentic interpretation of AL by the Apostolic See" as "certain statements in AL could be used to justify an abusive practice that has already been going on for some time in various places and circumstances in the life of the Church."
To see Bp. Schneider explain the current crisis of confusion in the Church, watch our interview with His Excellency.

 
 

Bradley Eli, M.Div., MA.Th. is a staff writer for ChurchMilitant.com 

http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/bp.-schneider-sex-or-the-sacraments

Fr.Gaudron, like Cardinal Burke and Joseph Shaw does not see how judgement of hypothetical cases result in a non traditional conclusion in Vatican Council II

Related imageFather Matthias Gaudron, priest of the Society of St. Pius X, comments on the subjectivism of the post-synodal Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia (AL) but along with the SSPX priests who comment on AL he does not see the subjectivism in their interpretation of Vatican Council II.
Similarly for Cardinal Raymond  Burke and  Joseph Shaw subjective cases are objective.So they interpret Vatican Council II,like Fr.Gaudron,  as a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). For them LG 16 refers to objective persons.The baptism of desire is an exception to the dogma EENS. It is not hypothetical but objective.This is the new salvation theology for them for the SSPX and for Fr. Gaudron.
Similarly there are known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of mortal sin.So for Cardinal Burke and Joseph Shaw  AL 301 is based upon the new moral theology which they have accepted.

author imageBut judgment is not only about condemning; it also means acquitting.The presumption here, and throughout the chapter, is that pastors can in fact render a judgment of acquittal on consciences so the people in irregular unions can move forward. But if we cannot and should not judge the souls of others, then we can neither condemn them by saying they are certainly guilty of mortal sin, nor can we acquit them saying they are not subjectively culpable for choosing grave matter. We cannot judge.-E. Christian Brugger,   Five Serious Problems with Chapter 8 of Amoris Laetitia


http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/but-if-we-shouldntand-indeed-cantrender.html
 
CASE BY CASE JUDGEMENT
AL says that there will be a case by case study of people living in manifest mortal sin, meaning it  will be judged who is not in mortal sin and is on the way to Heaven with Sanctifying Grace. It  will be judged that there could be some persons  whose subjectivity can be judged .So it will be concluded that they are exceptions to the teachings on mortal sin.This is  something, not only for God, according to AL, but also for humans to judge i.e hypothetical, subjective factors are explicitly knowable to determine, when God will not condemn a person living in mortal sin.

So in both cases, morals and faith, there is a new doctrine, a heretical one, which changes  traditional Catholic faith and moral theology.

With the new theology ( based on being able to judge subjective factors as being sufficient to reject mortal sin, to judge hypothetical cases as being objective, doctrine has been changed de jure (there are judgeable exceptions to mortal sin)  and de facto ( there are judgeable known exceptions to  persons living in mortal sin).The change is there in principle and in fact in morals.
 
 Similarly with the new theology, doctrine has been changed also on faith. De jure ( there are judgeable cases of the baptism fo desire and being saved in invincible ignorance without the baptism of water) and so  de facto  there are judgeable, known exceptions in the present times to the dogmatic teaching on all needing to be formal members of the Catholic Church.So there is a new doctrine in principle and in fact on faith(salvation).
 
So by assuming we can judge subjective cases there are exceptions projected to the traditional teaching on morals and faith.The doctrinal change based on a theological innovation can be known implicitly in Amoris Laetitia.Since AL 301 explicity tells us what was the theology used. Implicitly we know that the new theology was used based on being able to judge subjective or social factors and then concluding that there are objective exceptions to mortal sin.
 
Father Matthias Gaudron, like Cardinal Burke and Joseph Shaw, does not see how judgements of hypothetical cases result in a non traditional and heretical conclusion.He notices this subjectivism in AL but does not see this same subjectivism in the SSPX interpretation of Vatican Council II.
-Lionel Andrades


Father Mathias Guadron, SSPX has got it right : there are no known exceptions to the traditional moral teachings.The new moral theology is based on an irrationality

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/father-mathias-guadron-sspx-has-got-it.html

 

Friday, April 29, 2016

Rosary Advice from St. Louis de Montfort

    

Study the lives of the saints and you will discover each had a sincere devotion to the mother of God.  Their expression of devotion may come from their prayers, homilies, or treatises.  Of the great Marian saints, St. Louis de Montfort, should come to mind, who died on this date 300 years ago (April 28, 1716).  De Montfort’s greatest and well known contribution was his classic True Devotion to Mary, revered most especially by St. John Paul II, who claimed that reading True Devotion changed his life.  In this work, De Montfort lays the foundation for Marian consecration and many people to this day use his treatise in the preparation for total consecration to the Mother of God.  Perhaps less well known are two other works focusing on the mother of God from the hand of De Montfort: The Secret of Mary, the sequel or companion to True Devotion, and another work, The Secret of the Rosary.  The De Montfort Fathers have published the collected writings of St. Louis De Montfort in one volume, God Alone.

The Secret of the Rosary

This small little work, has sold over 5 million copies and ranks in the top five best sellers in the Mariology section of Amazon.  St. John Paul II called De Montfort’s book an excellent work on the rosary in Rosarium Virginis Mariae paragraph 8.  Every time I read The Secret of the Rosary, I fall in love with the rosary all over again!  It renews my fervor and dedication to this wonderful devotion. In this book, De Montfort relates the significance of the rosary through fifty roses, divided into five decades focusing on the origin and meaning of the rosary, its prayers, mysteries, and marvelous effects.  The last decade provides insight into how to better pray the rosary.
I’m always mesmerized by the stories De Montfort relates about the power and efficacy of the rosary.  To borrow the title of Fr. Donald Calloway’s soon to be released book on the rosary, De Montfort emphasizes the great Champions of the Rosary through story telling by focusing principally on St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche.  Additionally, De Montfort shares stories about the miraculous nature of the rosary, which offer compelling reasons to be devoted to Mary through rosary recitation.  Rightfully so, De Montfort makes distinctions regarding the faith accorded to such stories.  The Holy Scriptures require divine faith; to non-faith based stories we give human faith; and to stories recorded in The Secret of the Rosary, we give pious faith, meaning the subjects are not contrary to reason, faith or morals (cf. Tenth Rose).  Every time I re-read this rosary classic, I never regret it.  The stories are powerful and from them I always gain new insight regarding the rosary.

Rosary Advice from St. Louis De Montfort

In the last ten roses of The Secret of the Rosary, De Montfort teaches people how to pray the rosary.  Praying the rosary might seem basic: begin with the Apostles Creed, pray one Our Father, Three Hail Mary’s and a Glory Be, and then pray each mystery and corresponding decade.  While that is the practical how-to of saying the rosary, De Montfort takes it one step further and focuses on how to recite the rosary better in terms of interior disposition.  Many people find the rosary difficult, so De Montfort seeks to make it more accessible to any devotee.
 
Purity of Intention (Forty-First Rose)
Over and over again throughout the work, De Montfort emphasizes how those devoted to the rosary overcome sin in their lives.  When one prays the rosary, De Montfort speaks of the efficacy of praying it in the state of grace or at the very least with the desire to give up mortal sin.  It is important to have contriteness for sin, otherwise, he calls its mere lip service which takes on the form of false devotion by hiding in Mary’s mantle while crucifying the Lord by not amending one’s life.  By reflecting on the life of Jesus, especially the sorrowful mysteries, we must be moved to repentance for sin.  To pray the rosary well and receive the graces it affords, one must have pure intentions of abandoning sin and turning to God with one’s whole heart.
 
With Attention (Forty-Second Rose)
When praying the rosary it is important to concentrate on the prayers being prayed and the mystery being contemplated.  As De Montfort wittingly notes, “How can we expect God to listen to us if we ourselves do not pay attention to what we are saying?”  It would be almost impossible to pray without any distractions, but to pray the rosary well we must give our best attention to our prayer.
 
Fighting Distractions (Forty-Third Rose)
De Montfort readily acknowledges that by saying the same prayer over and over again, one could fall asleep or turn to other less tedious prayers.  The distractions and temptations one faces regarding the rosary, he calls temptations from the evil one who seeks to make us bored, distracted, or exhausted.  At times, the devil might even try to convince us that the rosary is useless.  These are the distractions that the devil employs to lead us away from the rosary because he knows that its devotees are no longer in his grasp.  It is important to fight such distractions given the meritorious nature of the rosary for the Day of Judgment.
 
A Good Method (Forty-Fourth Rose)
A good reminder to me during my recent re-read was De Montfort’s insistence of praying the rosary for a special grace (ie. with an intention in mind).  In the past, I have simply prayed the rosary, without calling to mind any specific intentions.  Perhaps what was true for me was one of De Montfort’s retorts: a “big fault a lot of people make when saying the Holy Rosary is to have no intention other than that of getting it over as quickly as possible.”  A good method of praying the rosary includes asking for a special grace.
De Montfort also calls speed pray-ers to task saying, “It is really pathetic to see how most people say the Holy Rosary–they say it astonishingly fast and mumble so that the words are not properly pronounced at all.”  To this, De Montfort suggests slowing down with the rosary.  In the text he inserts crosses between the phrases of the Our Father and Hail Mary where one should pause.  A good method of praying the rosary includes slowing down our pace.
 
With Reverence (Forty-Fifth Rose)
In this reflection, De Montfort, recommends praying the rosary while kneeling, but also says other forms are alright if necessary (in bed, at work, etc.)  If someone prays all 15 decades (now 20 decades) each day, De Montfort recommends breaking it up and spacing those prayers throughout the day and if need be, a person could pray one decade at a time.
 
Group Recitation (Forty-Sixth Rose)
St. Louis de Montfort says praying the rosary as a group is a very efficacious way of praying the rosary.  More specifically, he says that is the best way to glorify God and to scare the devil.  He goes on to explicate that when one person prays the rosary individually, they gain the merit of one rosary, whereas a person who recites the rosary in the group, gains merit for all the rosaries prayed by each person.
 
Proper Disposition (Forty-Seventh Rose)
When speaking about proper dispositions De Montfort means ongoing personal recitation of the rosary.  He outlines four dispositions, with the fifth being explicated in the forty-eight rose.  The first disposition is to always pray and not grow faint.  Essentially De Montfort gently reminds the devotee of the rosary’s effects in overcoming sin and the importance of our fidelity to the devotion for this reason.  Secondly he says we must pray the rosary with faith and thirdly with humility.  The fourth is to pray with great confidence for the graces which we seek.
 
Perseverance (Forty-Eight Rose)
When praying the rosary, especially for a specific intention, we must never tire in our prayer but to persevere.  De Montfort says, “God’s munificence is shown in His making us seek and ask for, over a long period of time, the grace which He wishes to give us and quite often the more precious the grace, the longer He takes to grant it.  There are three reasons why He does this: 1.  To thus increase this grace still more: 2. To make the recipient more deeply appreciate it; 3.  To make the soul who receives it very careful indeed not to lose it-for people do not appreciate things that they can get quickly and with very little trouble.”  Additionally, De Montfort encourages perseverance in order to overcome the many people who will want to guide us away from the rosary devotion.  Just like the saints who prayed the rosary, we must persevere, and if we do so until death, and according to De Montfort, if we do, that is a favor give by Almighty God.
 
Indulgences (Forty-Ninth Rose)
This rose deals with the indulgences devotees may obtain by praying the rosary.  The list De Montfort gives corresponds to his era of Catholicism.  For the indulgences attached to the rosary, I refer the reader to the Enchiridion of Indulgences.  This rose of meditation offered by De Montfort seems out of place, since indulgences do not directly refer to how one should recite the rosary.  Then again, it is after reciting the rosary, that one can gain such indulgences.
 
Various Methods (Fiftieth Rose)
In this final rose of the book, De Montfort proposes several ways to pray the rosary.  He encouraged praying the “Come Holy Ghost [Spirit] prayer” and then to make a prayer offering of the rosary and the rosary as usual.  Prior to each decade a few sentences precedes the Our Father.  For example, for the Annunciation, one would pray “We offer Thee, O Lord Jesus, this first decade in honor of Thy Incarnation and we ask of Thee, through this mystery and through the intercession of Thy most Holy Mother, a profound humility.”  After the Our Father, Ten Hail Marys, and Glory Be, one prays: “Grace of the mystery of the Incarnation, come down into my soul and make it truly humble”.  This is a longer form of praying the rosary as recommended by St. Louis de Montfort.  But he also proposes a shorter way, which I will explain further.

A Rosary Litany

The shorter way of praying the rosary recommended by De Montfort in the Fiftieth Rose is the insertion of a meditative phrase in the Hail Mary.  This is what De Montfort writes: “A Shorter Way of Commemorating the Life, Death and Glory of Jesus and Mary in the Most Holy Rosary, and a Way to Curb our Imagination and to Lessen Distractions.  In order to do this we must add a word or two to each Hail Mary (depending upon the decade) and this will help remind us which mystery we are commemorating.  This word or words should be added after the word ‘Jesus’”.  De Montfort lists a few words for each of the mysteries.  For the Annunciation he recommends “Jesus Incarnate;” for the Nativity, “Jesus born in poverty;” for the crucifixion, “Jesus Crucified.”
This simple way of praying the rosary transformed my recitation of the rosary and focused my meditation.  It did precisely what he said it would–curb imagination and lessen distractions.  In my own prayer, I started to come up with additional phrases for each mystery.  In so doing, I developed the De Montfortian method of praying the rosary, and have published a new devotional, A Rosary Litany, which proposes a meditative phrase for each Hail Mary of the rosary.  This is different from the scriptural rosary, because rather than preceding the Hail Mary, the phrase is inserted into the Hail Mary itself.  By adding the phrases, I better relate to the mystery and see the unfolding of who Jesus is and what he endured during each mystery.  A Rosary Litany does nothing new, it simply renews a pious custom recommended by St. Louis De Montfort and promoted by Blessed Paul VI (Marialis Cultus) and St. John Paul II (Rosarium Virginis Mariae). 

Conclusion

St. Louis De Montfort, a great devotee of Mary, has inspired countless people in their Marian devotion on account of his Marian treatises.  In his rosary classic he unfolds the secrets of the rosary, making them accessible to devotees of Mary, by showing the efficacy and power of the rosary through varied stories.  Such stories inspire the children of Mary to a greater dedication to the Marian devotion par excellence, and as a wise teacher, knowing that many will renew their rosary devotion by means of his text, De Montfort provides excellent advice on how to pray the rosary better.  While De Montfort wrote in the late 1600’s and early 1700’s, his Secret of the Rosary is a timeless treasure, which impacts people to this very day.  I know this to be true, because it inspired me.  And now, through A Rosary Litany, countless others.
http://catholicexchange.com/rosary-advice-from-st-louis-de-montfort
 

“Dear Pope Francis, Cancer Has Healed My Soul” - Carlotta Nobile


Can someone become a saint in just a few months? This is the story of Carlotta, who embraced the cross with joy



ROME — It was Palm Sunday 2013. Pope Francis was speaking to young people, who were gathered in St. Peter’s Square for the annual World Youth Day celebration. He said: “You are not ashamed of his Cross! On the contrary, you embrace it, because you have understood that it is in giving ourselves, in giving ourselves, in emerging from ourselves that we have true joy and that, with his love, God conquered evil.”
Carlotta Nobile was following the celebration on television at her home in Benevento, Italy. She heard Pope Francis’ words and, at that moment, everything suddenly made sense: her illness, her suffering and her life which, at age 22, was already reaching its end.
A precocious and highly talented violinist; a renowned concert performer, despite her young age; a student of art history at La Sapienza and Luiss in Rome, as well as the University of Cambridge and at Sotheby’s Institute in New York and author of two books — up to that point Carlotta Nobile had raced through life, the wind blowing through the long blonde hair that made her look almost Scandinavian.
Carlotta Nobile
Carlotta Nobile

“I am like a river,” she wrote in 2007, “that, in order to flow into the sea, always chooses the longest, most torturous road. The most difficult. Perhaps it’s because, deep down, I believe that winning easily is like losing, and that losing to the impossible is like having won, for the sole fact of having tried. This is how my life has been: a challenge. And I think this is the way it will always be.”
In fact, when Carlotta learned she had cancer, she took on the illness as a challenge to be overcome. In April 2012 she opened a Facebook page, titled “Cancer, and then …” on which she posted her thoughts and reflections, sharing them with the many people who were fighting the same battle, offering them help and moral support. She shared with her “second family” on social media the “extraordinary thing” that happened to her after a hospitalization in Milan, “and after the news of the new brain metastases, in addition to those in the lungs and liver.”
She wrote: “I found the faith and surrender, to believe that the cross of this terrible cancer is an incredible OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH for me, although sometimes all of us who have cancer know how hard it is to live with it. … The way I live with this cancer (right now, when it is acting most aggressive with me!!!) has become a unique serenity and trust. … And all this thanks to FAITH and our extraordinary Pope Francis … who says that young people should carry the cross with joy.”
Everyone close to Carlotta — her parents, her beloved brother, Matteo, her fiancé, Alessandro, her friends — have become witnesses of her extraordinary trust, of her unconditional surrender to God, which she expressed in her continual recitation of the Our Father.






http://aleteia.org/2016/04/27/dear-pope-francis-cancer-has-healed-my-soul/

For Burke and Shaw subjective cases are objective, this is the norm.So they interpret Vatican Council II as a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus


 
Comments from the blog Musings of a Pertinacious Papist : Just what the German hierarchy has been waiting for

 
P.P:
So as to Burke and Shaw, do you think they see V2 and AL as involving rupture because they assume the V2 and AL WRONGLY interpret subjective cases as objective? And, if so, then how do they reconcile this with their alleged agreement with the new theological principle that the subjective cannot be judged by objective standards?
Lionel:
So as to Burke and Shaw, do you think they see V2 and AL as involving rupture because they assume the V2 and AL WRONGLY interpret subjective cases as objective?
Yes for Burke and Shaw subjective cases are objective, this is the norm.So they interpret Vatican Council II as a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). For them LG 16 refers to known, objective cases. For them the baptism of desire is an exception to the dogma EENS. In other words the baptism of desire is not hypothetical but objective to be an exception.This is the new salvation theology for them.
Similarly there are known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of mortal sin.So for them AL 301 is saying nothing knew.It is based on the new moral theology which they have accepted for a long time.
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Musings of a Pertinacious Papist
And, if so, then how do they reconcile this with their alleged agreement with the new theological principle that the subjective cannot be judged by objective standards?
Lionel:
I hope they allegedly agree that the subjective cannot be judged by objective standards to postulate exceptions to traditional moral and salvation theology.
However in the case of the new salvation theology for example, perhaps they just assume that the baptism of desire etc is an exception to the dogma EENS. This is common throughout the Church. Catholics just accept it without thinking, since it is magisterial.
I was talking to an American priest here. I asked ,"Father we do not know anyone in particualr saved with the baptism of desire or  in invincible ignorance. I mean we cannot meet someone on the street who would be saved with the baptism of desire for example. I cannot say that someone will be saved with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water".
He said with a smile "Yes.We cannot know any such case."
I asked, "So these cases cannot be an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus which says all need to be aformal member of the Catholic Church for salvation"
He was quiet for a few seconds and then said "No they cannot be exceptions." Then he added." But this is what the Church teaches and we must follow it"
Possibly Burke and Shaw have not really thought this out too.No one has discussed it with them one to one.
-Lionel Andrades
 
 
 

Cardinal Kasper will say doctrine has not been changed in principle, in theory but he knows very well that with the new theology, doctrine has been changed de jure and de facto, in principle and in fact

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/cardinal-kasper-will-say-doctrine-has.html
 
 
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But if we shouldn’t—and indeed can’t—render a judgment of condemnation on another person’s state of soul, then we shouldn’t and can’t render a judgment of acquittal either.- .- E. Christian Brugger

But if we shouldn’t—and indeed can’t—render a judgment of condemnation on another person’s state of soul, then we shouldn’t and can’t render a judgment of acquittal either. But chapter 8 implies that pastors can have adequate certitude that a person lacks subjective culpability and so can free them to participate in the sacraments. No. 299 even refers to the divorced and civilly remarried as “living members” of the Church. The common understanding of a “living” member is a baptized person in grace.
But how can a priest judge that such people are in grace without judging? Pope Francis insists, and rightly so, that we mustn’t judge. But judgment is not only about condemning; it also means acquitting.The presumption here, and throughout the chapter, is that pastors can in fact render a judgment of acquittal on consciences so the people in irregular unions can move forward. But if we cannot and should not judge the souls of others, then we can neither condemn them by saying they are certainly guilty of mortal sin, nor can we acquit them saying they are not subjectively culpable for choosing grave matter. We cannot judge.-E. Christian Brugger,   Five Serious Problems with Chapter 8 of Amoris Laetitia
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E. Christian Brugger

Dr. E. Christian Brugger is the J. Francis Cardinal Stafford Professor of Moral Theology at St. John Vianney Theological Seminary in Denver and Senior Fellow of Ethics at the Culture of Life Foundation in Washington, D.C. He has a forthcoming book with Catholic University of America Press on the indissolubility of marriage and the Council of Trent.

Five Serious Problems with Chapter 8 of Amoris Laetitia

 
 

Cardinal Kasper will say doctrine has not been changed in principle, in theory but he knows very well that with the new theology, doctrine has been changed de jure and de facto, in principle and in fact

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/cardinal-kasper-will-say-doctrine-has.html
 
 

Cardinal Kasper will say doctrine has not been changed in principle, in theory but he knows very well that with the new theology, doctrine has been changed de jure and de facto, in principle and in fact

 
 
Comments from the blog Musings of a Pertinacious Papist : "Just what the German hierarchy has been waiting for"
P.P:
Of course the dogma of EENS may impinge at points on the issue of divorce, re-marriage, sodomite relationships and Communion for those in such 'irregular' relationships as well as heretics; but still, they are not quite the same thing, don't you agree?
Lionel:
The issue is the new theology, it is based on hypothetical exceptions being objective. This new theology is part of moral and salvation theology. It has created a new doctrine on morals and faith.
It is with the new theology that Amoris Laeitita (AL) in N.301 says there are exceptions to saying mortal sin is always mortal sin.
Musings of a Pertinacious Papist
The new theology says hypothetical cases are objective and so there is salvation outside the Church. EENS is written off.
It then says since subjective cases are objective, we can know exceptions to the traditional understanding of mortal sin.
So in both cases, faith and morals in the Catholic Church, it is supposed that hypothetical, theoretical, subjective cases are explicit and personally known.
So Protestant Ethics is brought into the Catholic Church by assuming an extraordinary, complicated and theoretical case in moral theology is an exception to clearly saying what is a mortal sin. It is as if we can personally know such a complicated case in real life.
So for example Cardinal Kasper will say that there is no change in doctrine and mean ideally, in principle there is no change in the Church's teachings on faith and morals.However when he applies the new theology to faith and morals he changes both.
For example Pope Benedict, who uses the new theology, may say that Vatican Council II is not a break with the past and it can be interpreted with the hermeneutic of continuity.But then he will interpret LG 16 ( invincible ignorance) as referring to not a subjective and invisible case for us, but as an objective case in 2016 and so it is a break with the dogma EENS and Tradition. So with LG 16, Vatican Council II has a hermeneutic of rupture.
For me since LG 16 is invisible and not objective, there is no rupture with the dogma EENS and Tradition. So Vatican Council II has a continuity with the past.
The difference between Pope Benedict and me is that he is using the new theology which assumes hypothetical cases are objectively visible. I am avoiding it.
Similarly for Cardinal Burke and Joseph Shaw Vatican Council II is a break with the past and so unlike Pope Benedict and Cardinal Kasper, who also assume theoretical cases are objectively visible, they reject Vatican Council II and criticise it.
So now Cardinal Burke and Joseph Shaw say with the new moral theology that there is nothing new in AL.Since for them hypothetical cases, subjective factors, emotions and conditions are in one sense objective and so they are exceptions to the traditional teachings on mortal sin (n.301, AL). In another sense they are saying in agreement with the new moral theology being taught at pontifical universities, that we can never judge or understand the subjectivity of a person,and so we cannot judge mortal sin in all cases.
AL says that there will be a case by case study of people living in manifest mortal sin.It will be judged who is not in mortal sin and is on the way to Heaven with Sanctifying Grace and it will be judged that there could be some cases who subjectvely will be exceptions to the teachings on mortal sin, since this is something that we humans can judge i.e hypothetical, subjective factors are explicitly knowable to determine, when God will not condemn a person living in mortal sin.
So in both cases, morals and faith, there is a new doctrine, a heretical one, which rejects traditional Catholic faith and moral theology.
So Cardinal Kasper will say doctrine has not been  changed in principle in theory but he knows very well that with the new theology, doctrine has been changed de jure and de facto, in principle and in fact.
-Lionel Andrades
 

Thursday, April 28, 2016

The mad theology

Are we really in the same Church whose teachings do not change?
National Catholic RegisterFor Cardinal Burke and Joseph Shaw doctrinally and theologically Amoris Laetitia is nothing new.There is no change in moral theology for them. They have no problem also with the new salvation theology.
Note: When a new theology is created it is based on rational constructs.It is based on a common reality, the generally accepted laws of nature.
I cannot imagine there are people on the moon ( whom I have never seen) and then create a new theology for the men on the moon and the earth.This would be absurd.
I cannot imagine or postulate that man has evolved from the monkey and is further evolving, this would be wrong. Since there is no proof for this.It could be that the monkey has devolved from man, in a deviant strain, and the 'evolutionists' are not aware of it.Any way there is no scientific proof to create a new theology assuming man has evolved from the ape.
Similarly I cannot imagine that we humans can see people in Heaven  and talk to them.Then I cannot use this premise to create a new theology.This would not be acceptable.Since in our reality we cannot see people in Heaven and we cannot talk to them in 2016.
So if a theology is created whose initial reasoning is being able to see people in Heaven in general, it would be un -real and non traditional.
Similarly I cannot postulate that all men can physically fly like birds,and then with this premise create a theology.This would be absurd.It is irrational to assume that men and women on earth can fly like birds.
It is irrational to assume that we humans in general can see people in Heaven physically.
Yet literally this is what happened in the Church.
A theology was created upon an irrationality.It is supported by Cardinal Burke and taught by Joseph Shaw.It is the theology of Pope Benedict.It is the theology of Cardinal Schonborn, who was praised by Pope Francis as being a great theologian.This is cardinals Koch and Kasper's common theology.
It is based on being able to physically see people in Heaven who are exceptions to the traditional salvation and moral theology of the Church.
Since I cannot physically see people I do not use this premise to mis- interpret traditional moral and salvation theology in the Church.
So even though the Church's teachings ideally, in theory, in principle, do not change, they are changed when this new theology, based upon an irrationality, is applied to them.
So moral and salvation theology is different for Cardinal Burke and me.
Joseph Shaw and I do not interpret the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Vatican Council II, the Nicene Creed....in the same way.
There are no known exceptions for me to the general understanding of mortal sin.I do not know of any de facto exception. If there would be an exception it would only be known to God.
Pope Francis cannot say that a particular couple who is living in manifest mortal sin according to traditional moral theology, would be an exception and would not go to Hell if they died immediately.He couldn't know. He cannot physically see or know exceptions in Heaven.
Yet his moral theology is based upon being able to see people in Heaven who are exceptions to the general rule on mortal sin.It is the same with Cardinal Burke and Joseph Shaw.
Their salvation theology is also based upon being able to see people in Heaven who are exceptions to the general teaching on exclusive salvation i.e the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So for them there are known exceptions to EENS while for me there are no known exceptions to EENS.
For them Vatican Council II is a break with EENs according to the 16 century  missionaries.This is not so for me.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider also uses this same theology based on an irrationality.However he rejects Amoris Laetitia based on the teachings of Trent, Veritatis Splendor and tradtional moral theology.
Cardinal Burke and Joseph Shaw are not rejecting AL since for them the new theology, moral and salvation, is the normal theology and it has been in use for a long time.AL is explained away with the new moral theology. So theologically there is nothing new for them and Amoria Laeitia has not directly,contradicted traditional moral theology.However implicitly it is understood that we humans can see and talk to people in Heaven in 2016.So there are known of exceptions to the traditional teaching on salvation and mortal sin.So implicitly a new doctrine has been created in faith (salvation) and morals( mortal sin).
Meanwhile no one is telling Cardinal Burke that he has changed moral theology by using an irrational premise to create an irrational, non traditional and heretical inference.So in this way doctrine has been changed in the Church.AL's 301 is based on the new heretical moral theology.
-Lionel Andrades


We cannot a create a new moral or salvation theology based on an irrationality.Pope Benedict has done this.


 
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Maike Hickson has not addressed Cardinal Burke and Joseph Shaw's accepting the theology and doctrines of Amoris Laetitia


 

 

 

 

Cardinal Raymond Burke and Prof. Joseph Shaw assume hypothetical factors or theories are explicit exceptions to the traditional de fide teaching on faith and morals.



 


This is all accepted by Fr.John Zuhlsdorf, Cardinal Raymond Burke and Joseph Shaw. They offer/ attend the Traditional Latin Mass with this official heresy

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/this-is-all-accepted-by-frjohn.html
 
Amoris Laetitia is based on the new doctrine in moral theology i.e known exceptions to the traditional teaching on mortal sin.
 
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Exclusivist ecclesiology?
The new theology is based on being able to see the dead. Remove the premise, which is, "I can see the dead on earth".We then have the old ecclesiology, the exclusivist ecclesiology. The ecclesiology of Vatican Council II is exclusivist. Since it affirms the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in Ad Gentes 7, which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.LG 16,LG 8,UR 3,NA 2 etc are not known exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 or the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. We are left with the old ecclesiology.

Who agrees with you?

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Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors

DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

Implicit intention, invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) in Vatican Council II do not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus –John Martigioni
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/implicit-intention-invincible-ignorance.html#links
ioceseofvenice.org/our-bishop/bishop-frank-j-dewane/

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