Tuesday, January 12, 2016

Pope Pius XII, Cardinals Ottaviani, Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre were factually wrong

From the SSPX website : Feeneyism






http://archives.sspx.org/miscellaneous/feeneyism/fr_feeney_catholic_doctrine.htm

His teaching was then condemned by the Holy Office in 1949, and he himself was excommunicated in 1953.
Lionel:
Yes the Holy Office was saying that the baptism of desire was explicit and visible. We now know they were wrong.
The Holy Office was inferring that these 'visible cases' of the BOD were explicit exceptions to Fr. Leonard Feeney's understanding of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. We now know that BOD is not relevant to the dogma in any way.It cannot be physically seen.
The Holy Office was implying that someone at that time could see and know people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. We now know that their position was irrational.A speculative case cannot be an exception to all needing to enter the Church in the present times.
The Holy Office was saying that only those who know about Jesus and the Church need to enter to avoid Hell, implying that those in invincible ignorance were exceptions to the dogma. This is a new doctrine based on the irrationality of seeing and knowing people saved in invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water.There are no known cases of someone saved in invincible ignorance.
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It should be sufficient to recall that this happened under the pontificate of the saintly Pope Pius XII, and that the letter of the Holy Office was signed by Cardinal Ottaviani, who was not a liberal either. However, certain good Catholics still try to exculpate Fr. Feeney by saying that the Holy See was misinformed, etc.
Lionel:
Any one who infers that we can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water is wrong. One does not even have to know theology or be a Catholic to know that this is not objectively true.
Pope Pius XII, Cardinals Ottaviani, Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre were factually wrong.
It is a fact of life that we cannot see people in Heaven saved with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water. So there are no known exceptions to the Feeneyite version of the dogma on which is based Catholic exclusivist ecclesiology.
-Lionel Andrades 

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