Sunday, December 6, 2015

I attend the Novus Ordo Mass but I would be 'ideological' for Pope Francis

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The Vatican must stop linking the Latin Mass with the traditional ecclesiology.I affirm the traditional ecclesiology and attend Mass here in Italian. So Pope Francis' reference to the 'ideology' does not depend upon the Mass.
I avoid the factual mistake of Pope Pius XII, father of the new theology,  and so for me the ecclesiology of the Mass in the vernacular is the same as that of the Traditional Latin Mass.
Pope Francis offers Holy Mass with the new ecclesiology, the  new theology and the theology of religions based on there being salvation outside the Catholic Church.So since there is salvation outside the Church for him, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is rejected.This is the 'ideology' he prefers. 

But I know there is no known case of salvation outside the Church in 2015. I cannot  meet, see or know any such person.You may speculate and hope there is such a case but there is no known case in real life. We cannot know of someone saved without Catholic Faith and the baptism of water.

Assuming that there are such known cases in real life, was an objective mistake made in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII.

I attend Holy Mass in Italian and also the Traditional Latin Mass and there is no difference in theology for me.Ecclesiology has not changed.There is no hermeneutic of rupture for me.Since I do not and cannot know any one saved outside the Church.There is no ambiguity in the text of Vatican Council II for me.I avoid the false premise and inference, and so there is no change in the ecclesiology.

Vatican Council II in its text is not ambiguous. However the text can be interpreted irrationally.So the Council comes across as ambiguous. This aids the 'ideology' of Pope Francis and the liberals.

With the irrational premise (there is salvation outside the Church since people without faith and baptism are visible and known in 2015 even though they are in Heaven) Vatican Council II rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Without the irrational premise Vatican Council II does not reject the dogma and I am aware of this fact.It is with this knowledge that I can attend the Novus Ordo Mass. So with the ideology of the ancient Traditional  Latin Mass , opposed by Pope Francis, I am attending the Novus Ordo Mass. Any Catholic can do the same.Even members of the Charismatic Renewal, Focolares and New Catechumenate communities can do the same. All the religious communities can do the same.

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 Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Michael Davis, the SSPX bishops and priests, assumed there were  known exceptions to the dogma in Vatican Council II (UR 3, LG 8, LG 16, NA 2 etc) and this was a break with the old Jesuit missionaries.Now priests who offer Holy Mass in the vernacular  can affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Francis Xavier, St. Ignatius of Loyola, St. Francis of Assisi... Vatican Council II is in perfect agreement with St.Robert Bellarmine on other religions and ecumenism.We are back to the old ecclesiology irrespective of the liturgy or Rite.

Without the Lefebvre mistake of being able to see the dead-saved with the naked eye, the Novus Ordo Mass and the Traditional Latin Mass has the same 'ideology'.It is the ideology not approved by Pope Francis.

Without the irrational premise (of being able to see non Catholics in Heaven saved without the baptism of water)  the priest  who offers Holy Mass today can know Jews need to convert  for salvation.He knows this according to Ad  Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14  in Vatican Council II. So there are no known exceptions to the strict interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church. This is said not only according to  the Good Friday Prayer for the Conversion of the Jews in the Tridentine Rite Mass. This is Vatican Council II!

Ecclesiology is not dependent on the liturgy.One can offer the Novus Ordo or Traditional Latin Mass using a false premise in theology. It is the premise that changes ecclesiology irrespective of the liturgy. 

Liturgy is independent of dogma.Today a false premise is being used in the interpretation of magisterial documents. This has continued since 1949 . After Vatican Council II  priests who offer Mass in the vernacular and those who offer the Tridentine Rite Mass in Rome use this premise to create a new ecclesiolgy. They are both denying the Catholic faith on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.The Latin Mass societies are faithful to the ritual and Rite but have rejected the old ecclesiology of the Latin Mass.

Even the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) priests offer the Tridentine Rite Mass while assuming there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. With this false premise they assume that Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition.The problem is with the premise and not the Mass.The Mass in the vernacular is valid and licit but generally the priest who offers it is in material heresy

Often this heresy is manifest in public.The priest, bishop, cardinal or pope would be in the automatically excommunicated category.Also the same error, the samer heresy, comes up in  the Profession of Faith, when they recite the Nicene Creed. They say' I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin' but mean three or more known baptisms.

Presently the priest offering the Novus Ordo or  Traditional Latin Mass has the faculties even when he is in public heresy ( for me) .While the SSPX priests are not being given the faculties since they refuse to accept a heretical interpretation of Vatican Council II (Cushingism version).Similarly a priest who offers the Novus Ordo Mass, with Feeneyism as a theology, could lose his faculties during the pontificate of Pope Francis. Theology counts and Catholics are not aware of it.

The Priestly Fraternity of St.Peter (FSSP) is welcomed in new parishes and dioceses since like the priests who offer the Novus Ordo Mass, they believe there are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. They are not ideological. However if they offered the Novus Ordo Mass and said there are no exceptions to the dogma EENS, they would become ideological.
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For me, rationally we are back to extra ecclesiam nulla salus which the Church has not retracted in any Magisterial document. The Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 can be interpreted in accord with the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. CCC 846 on Outside the Church No Salvation says all need to enter the Church as through a door. This was how the Church Fathers described extra ecclesiam nulla salus. CCC’s 846’s reference to those saved implicitly through Jesus and the Church does not contradict the dogma, since we do not know a single person, saved through Jesus and the Church and without formal entry into the Church.
So I affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma and attend the Novus Ordo Mass! The Franciscans of the Immaculate, the SSPX and the sedevacantists could do the same as me.
-Lionel Andrades

Bishop Bernard Fellay, like Archbishop Lefebvre and the Prefects of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith made a doctrinal error on the baptism of desire being visible to us. Could the SSPX also be wrong about the Holy Mass ?

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