Wednesday, September 16, 2015

Michael Voris has compromised and wants the SSPX to do the same

Michael Voris is trying to pressurize the SSPX to accept Vatican Council II just as he has compromised and accepted the magisterial heresy.
 The SSPX is not accepting Vatican Council II in which Lumen Gentium 16 (LG 16) is considered an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS)  and to the old ecclesiology.Since this is irrational and non traditional.It implies LG 16, LG 8, LG 14 refer to known cases in the present times. So they are a break with the old ecclesiology. How can people in Heaven be known exceptions on earth to the old ecclesiology ? Can we see and know ghosts saved in Heaven without the baptism of water but in invincible ignorance, with the baptism of desire and baptism of blood ( martyrdom)?
There are no such cases on earth for them to be exceptions.

Michael Voris has accepted an irrationality in the interpretation of Vatican Council II . He said  every one does not need to be a card carrying member of the Church for salvation. For him being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), the baptism of desire(BOD) and baptism of blood (BOB) refer to explicit, objective cases in the present times, saved without formally entering the Church. Otherwise how could they be exceptions if they were not known? This is the magisterial irrationality and objective error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II -  the SSPX does well not to accept it.
This is the bait being given for canonical status and the CMTV has compromised.

Instead the SSPX should ask CMTV and the CDF to affirm Vatican Council II in which LG 16, LG 8, LG 14 refer to implicit, invisible and known only to God cases . Then only, the SSPX could accept Vatican Council II.
The contemporary Magisterium has broken away from the pre-1808 Magisterium.Why doesn't Michael call this schism ?
 If Fr.Leonard Feeney was wrong  then so were the Church Councils which defined the dogma EENS.Since the dogma also does not mention BOD, BOB and I.I with or without the baptism of water.
If CMTV interprets Vatican Council II in which LG 16  etc refer to invisible cases, then Vatican Council II  for CMTV would be in agreement with the three Church Councils which defined EENS- but then they would be opposed to the present Magisterium.
This would be not possible for Michael Voris since he believes  the contemporary Magisterium is always correct, right or wrong.How could Pope Francis be opposed to the popes of the past on the salvation dogma? It's not possible for Michael. For him the present Magisterium and the 'perennial' Magisterium are the same.
Now he is trying to force the SSPX to accept the same magisterial heresy which  CMTV condones.
The Magisterium made an objective error in the Fr.Leonard Feeney case and CMTV does not want to talk about it.
CMTV can avoid this error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.

 Ryan Fitzgerald, a Staffer at CMTV, 1 is working on a Masters Degree in Theology at the University of Steubenville, USA. May be he could answer the question, the sedevancantists will not answer over the last three months : Is LG 16 an exceptions to EENS?
-Lionel Andrades

1.Ryan Fitzgerald@RyanFitz1111

Michael Voris and CMTV still in magisterial heresy

CDF needs to clarify  

 Medugorje has been described by a cardinal as the biggest Confessional in Europe.There have also been numerous religious vocations world wide from Medugorje 

If Popes Pius XII or Benedict sugggest BOD, BOB and I.I refer to seen and known cases today it is a factual mistake

Three months and sedevacantists cannot answer if LG 16 is explicit and an exception to EENS

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