Monday, September 14, 2015

Urbaniana Pontifical University also changes ecclesiology using the irrational premise and inference in the interpretation of Lumen Gentium,Vatican Council II

At the Pontifical University Urbaniana Rome also they are teaching Ecclesiology and calling it a mystery. This is a new mystery in the Church.They do not know how to present this 'new mystery' in the Church whose source is an irrationality, a false premise and inference, and so they are presenting it with Mariology.
There is no one to question them or correct all this.This is the new ideological presentation of Ecclesiology , the 'new ecclesiology', in the pontifical universities.
The aim is: get rid of the old ecclesiology. The Church does not believe any more in the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
So Fr.Peter Paul Saldhana ( ) when he teaches this course at the Urbanianum, in his Bliography he includes :
  • PHILIPS, G., La Chiesa e il suo mistero nel Concilio Vaticano II. Storia, testo e commento della Costituzione Lumen Gentium, Jaca Books, Milano 1975 ( The Church and its mystery in Vatican Council II.)
Fr.Tommasso Stancotti O.P at the Angelicum gave us a clue to this 'mystery' in Vatican Council II which has changed the 'old ecclesiology'. He said it was Lumen Gentium.
For Fr.Saldhana too, LG 16( invincible ignorance) , LG 8( elements of sanctification and truth), LG 14 (implicit desire, invincible ignorance) refer to explicit, objective seen in the flesh cases in 2015. Since they are concrete and not abstract cases they become for him exceptions to the old ecclesiology, the extra ecclesiam nulla salus of the popes and saints.
No one is there to correct Fr.Saldhana, Fr.Stancoti, Fr.Francesco Giordana and Mobeen Shahid and tell them LG 16, LG 8, LG 14 could be interpreted as being implicit, invisible and hypothetical. So they are not exceptions to the old ecclesiology. There is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the old ecclesiology. The new ecclesiology is created by assuming LG 16, LG 8, LG 14 are visible to us in real life. This is irrational.It is no surprise  that they call all this a 'mystery'. 
-Lionel Andrades

TB1006 - Ecclesiologia e Mariologia(cr. 9 - Annuale)
Obiettivi didattici:
Introdurre i temi ecclesiologici e mariologici fondamentali del mistero della Chiesa e di Maria, Madre di Cristo e Madre della Chiesa per un’adesione piu’ cosciente verso di loro.
Contenuti delle lezioni:
La storia dell’evoluzione dell’ecclesiologia e la svolta ecclesiologica del Vaticano II; i punti focali nella nuova ecclesiologia del Vaticano II; mistero, sacramento, comunione, diaconia; Maria come corona della Chiesa; i dogmi mariani e il culto verso Maria, Madre di Cristo e Madre della Chiesa.
Modalità di svolgimento:
Lezioni frontali; discussione in classe; relazione scritta su un testo ecclesiologico oppure mariologico.
Modalità di verifica:
Esame finale orale e valutazione dell’elaborato.
Bibliografia: PHILIPS, G., La Chiesa e il suo mistero nel Concilio Vaticano II. Storia, testo e commento della Costituzione Lumen Gentium, Jaca Books, Milano 1975; DULLES, A., Modelli della Chiesa, Messggero di Sant'Antonio, Padova 2005; PIÉ-NINOT, S., Ecclesiologia. La sacramentalità della comunità cristiana, Queriniana, Brescia 2008; CASTELLUCCI, E., La famiglia di Dio nel mondo. Manuale di ecclesiologia, Cittadella, Assisi 2008; KASPER, W., Chiesa Cattolica, Essenza-Realtà-Missione, Queriniana, Brescia 2012 (orig. ted, 2011); SALDANHA P.P., The Church. Mystery of Love and Communion, Urbaniana University Press, Città del Vaticano 2014; FARKASFALVY, D., The Marian Mystery. Outline of a Mariology, New York, St Paul, 2014; COGGI, R., Trattato di Mariologia. I misteri della fede in Maria, Bologna, Edizioni Studio Domenicano, 2011.
Fr.Peter Paul Saldhana is a priest from the diocese of Mangalore, India and a professor of Ecclesiology at the Pontifical University Urbaniana from where he obtained his licentiate and doctorate in Theology.

Michael Voris and CMTV still in magisterial heresy

Michael Voris has said on CMTV that every one does not need to be a card carrying member of the Church. This is magisterial heresy.

The CDF does not correct him.The Archdiocese of Detroit affirms the error for political reasons.So it still  does not make it correct.
I mentioned in a previous blog post 1 ' the CDF nor Church Militant TV (CMTV) is discussing the theology of Vatican Council II , in which Lumen Gentium 16 (LG 16) on such a wide scale, is considered explicit instead of implicit, objective instead of subjective,visible instead of invisible.
This issue should be a priority for the CDF and CMTV since the common error is related to the acceptance of Vatican Council II by the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) and the Franciscans of the Immaculate (F.I). 2 It is also related to the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II by Michael Voris at CMTV and cardinals and bishops in the USA including the Archdiocese of Detroit where CMTV is located.
The CDF needs to clarify that being saved in invincible ignorance of the Gospel through no fault of one's own(LG 16) or by following one's good conscience(LG 16) does not refer to any person known to us in the present times.These cases if they existed without the baptism of water, would be known only to God.
Since they do not exist in our reality in 2015 they cannot be considered exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS),which tells us all need to be formal members of the Church. All need to be 'card carrying' members of the Church for salvation.
Zero cases of something are not exceptions to EENS, says the apologist John Martignoni.The CDF must clarify that LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 are not explicit, objective and visible in personal cases. They are zero cases in our reality today.
They are not exceptions or even relevant to the traditional, strict interpretation of the dogma EENS.
The CDF needs to clarify that the Holy Office (CDF) 1949 made an objective mistake in the Fr.Leonard Feeney case.The baptism of desire and baptism of blood are not visible, objective and explicit.So they are not exceptions to the Feeneyite version of EENS.There is no known salvation outside the Church, past or present.
This is an important issue . All the young consecrated men and women participating in the world meeting from Sept.15-19 at the Vatican, assume LG 16 refers to explicit, objective and seen in the flesh cases in Rome. 3
Once this is clarified for them and all Catholics, it will be easier for the SSPX and F.I to accept Vatican Council II in agreement with the old ecclesiology. There would be a hermeneutic of continuity with traditional EENS.
Vatican Council II would be in agreement with the ecclesiology of St.Giovanni Leonardi, St.Anthony Marie Claret,St.Maximillian Kolbe, St. Francis of Assisi, Don Bosco, St.Catherine of Siena...
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The SSPX and F.I must not be forced to accept Vatican Council II and LG 16, as being visible instead of invisible, in order to regularise their status.
On the other hand CMTV must be free to say LG 16 is always invisible for us and so it is not an exception to the Feeneyite version of the dogma EENS.Vatican Council II does not contradict Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence.The Archdiocese of Detroit and the Jewish Left offices must not expect CMTV to deny the faith with heresy, just to stay afloat.
It would nice to know if the Medugorje seers have to interpret LG 16 as being invisible or visible, hypothetical or a real apparition.-Lionel Andrades


CDF needs to clarify

What is Mobeen going to teach?

He is not willing to say Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II says all need faith and baptism for salvation and Muslims do not have it.
He is not going to teach that all Muslims are oriented to Hell according to Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14).
He is not going to say that LG 14 says those who 'know' about Jesus and the Church and yet do not enter are on the way to Hell.Muslims in Italy 'know'.The prophet Mohammad and his companions 'knew'.
So what is Prof. Mobeen Shahid going to teach about Islam and the Catholic Faith , at the I.S.S.R Ecclesia Mater,Rome when in public he is not willing to speak the truth? 1
Immagine correlataHe is not affirming Vatican Council II.He is denying Vatican Council II in public and yet his mandatum; his canonical status to teach, has not been revoked by Cardinal Agostino Vallini, Vicar General, Rome (Vicariato).
Instead, its because he denies Vatican Council II that Mobeen Shahid is given the canonical status by Cardinal Vallini, to teach theology at the Ecclesia Mater of the Rome Vicariate.
Mobeen knows theology and yet he is denying the Faith.
Immagine correlataFor me all Muslims and other non Catholics are on the path to Hell according to the Catholic Church ( Vatican Council II, Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257 , Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441etc).
I do not know of any exception in 2015 to Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II which says all need ' faith and baptism' for salvation.
I do not know of any case this year, or in the past,saved with the baptism of desire or baptism of blood and without the baptism of water.I do not know of any one saved with 'elements of sanctification and truth'(LG 8), 'seeds of the Word'(AG 11) and without the baptism of water.I do not know of any one saved without the baptism of water this year, because God is not limited to the Sacraments (CCC 1257).
Immagine correlataI do not know of any one saved with ' a ray of the Truth' (Nostra Aetate) or 'good and holy things' in other religions(Nostra Aetate) and so would contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the old ecclesiology.
Neither does Mobeen Shahid know of any exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or to Vatican Council II 8AG 7, LG 14).
Mobeen has a doctorate from the Pontifical University John Lateran, Rome and teaches philosophy there and he is denying the Catholic Faith.
If I can affirm the Faith why cannot Mobeen?
Immagine correlataMobeen Shahid is not affirming Vatican Council II and has canonical status.The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) and the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate (F.I) should protest.
-Lionel Andrades
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