Friday, July 3, 2015

Sedevacantists jump ship

It is time for the sedevacantists to jump ship.
Leave the sede community.
Here's why :
1. Bishop Donald Sanborn and Fr.Anthony Cekada  interpret Vatican Council II with hypothetical cases (LG 16 etc) being considered defacto( objective) exceptions in the present times, to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
2.Fr. Anthony Cekada says that the St.Benedict Centers do not accept the baptism of desire (BOD) and so are in mortal sin.Yet they accept BOD followed by the baptism of water (BOW).This is dogmatic.
Accepting the baptism of desire as being explicit and so an exception ( to all needing to formally enter the Church with the baptism of water) is not a dogmatic teaching.It is also irrational.
3.In the Nicene Creed we pray 'I believe in one baptism( baptism of water) for the forgiveness of sin'. When the Nicene Creed was formulated, they did not refer to BOD and BOB, with reference to EENS,  since they were invisible for us and known only to God.For Bishop Sanborn there are three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins.(BOW,BOD,BOB, LG 16, UR 3 etc).This is heresy.
4.EENS is a defined dogma whose text does not mention any exceptions.Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani introduced the exceptions in 1949  which was accepted by Pope Pius XII, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the SSPX.It was taught to Fr.Cekada who teaches it now in the sedevacantist community.
5.Bishop Donald Sanborn and Fr.Anthony Cekada's position on Vatican Council II is the same as Pope Francis and Cardinal Walter Kaspar.There is a choice in the interpretation of VC2 without the irrational inference, but they are not aware of it.
6.With this change of Church dogma and doctrine, with  irrationality and heresy, while staying in sedevacantism they offer Holy Mass.All this would be an impediment to offering Holy Mass centuries back.
7.They have never taught that Vatican Council II says all Jews, Muslims, Buddhists etc are on the way to Hell, since they do not have 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG 14).Christians are also on the way to Hell without Catholic Faith (AG 7,LG 14), which include the Sacraments and the moral and faith teaching of the Catholic Church.
A Christian can be saved with faith in Jesus if he dies immediately after his conversion but if the Christian lives to adulthood he needs to convert formally into the Catholic Church for salvation.
This sedevacantist community has never taught that Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) indicates that most people are on the way to Hell, since they die without 'faith and baptism'.
8.They do not teach that Feeneyism was the official teaching of the Catholic Church for centuries and the Marchettiism and Cushingism was an innovation from the 1940's.BOB and BOD were accepted theoretically for centuries but were not linked to EENS.Marchetti made the link assuming that these cases were not theoretical but explicit  in the present times, so they became exceptions to the dogmatic rule on all needing to convert formally.Avoiding this error is important for mission and evangelisation.
9. They criticize the Novus Ordo Mass when it is the Sacrifice of Jesus, an unbloody Sacrifice.While the Eucharist is still the Body, Blood and Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
10. They also cirticize the Neo Catechumenal Way of Kiko Arguello , the Catholic Charismatic Renewal and the Focolares when the sedevacantists are using the same liberal theology, as these new Catholic movements.
11.An injustice was done to Fr.Leonard Feeney in the Boston Case,  when the magisterium of Pope Pius XII made   an objective mistake.Humanly speaking there could not be an exception to Fr.Feeney's interpretation of the dogma. Yet Pope Pius XII and Cardinal Ottaviani are acceptable for the sedevacantist and their error in the 1940's and later, is not mentioned.It is a fact of life that BOD and BOB cases are not visible or known to us on earth. For Pope Pius XII to suggest that there are exceptions (See Letter of the Holy Office 1949), is a factual, objective mistake.He could not see the dead-saved in Heaven.
This is all ignored by the sedevacantists.
12. They have not pointed out  that there was a factual error in two papers of the International Theological Commission.(Christianity and the World Religions and The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without being baptised).This was not noticed since the same error in reasoning,as the ITC and Pope Benedict XVI,   is made by Bishop Donald Sanborn and Fr. Anthony Cekada.The same error is there also with the sedevacantists CMRI and MHFM.
With so much of irrationality and public heresy it is time to come back into the Catholic Church and live Church-teachings, even if they are being violated by Pope Francis.
-Lionel Andrades

Bishop Sanborn, Fr.Cekada agree : in the present times there are no explicit exceptions to EENS

We do not know of a BOB and BOD exception in the present times. Here we can all agree since it is common knowledge

It is a fact of life that we do not know any one saved with BOD or BOD today ( June 30,2015) Do you not agree here? Do not your readers agree here?

When Bishop Schneider says a Syllabus of Errors on VC2 is needed it is presumed that he knows the cause of the all the confusion in VC2

Comments from We do not know of a BOB and BOD exception in the present times. Here we can all agree since it is common knowledge
The Cardinals and Bishops like IAAD and the St.Benedict Center are assuming hypothetical cases are defacto exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in the present times.For them LG 16 is an exception to EENS. This is a mistake being made by the SSPX, Bishop Athansius Schneider, the sedevacantists CMRI and MHFM and the Vatican Curia including the popes.
It is with this error that Vatican Council II contradicts the original Syllabus of Errors of Pope Piux IX.
So if we identify and correct this error things will fall into place.
So many times I have asked Brother Andre Marie MICM if LG 16 is an exception to EENS according to Fr. Leonard Feeney. He will not answer. I asked him two questions he discussed it with the others but did not send me the answer even after I reminded him about it.May be there is some problem there. I am not forcing him.
I have quoted Archbishop Thomas E. Gullickson, Fr. S. Visintin, Dean of Theology at the Benedictine St. Anslem's University in Rome and John Martignoni the American apologist saying there are no known exception to EENS in the present times.There is no comment from the MICM centers.
When Bishop Schneider says a Syllabus of Errors on VC2 is needed it is presumed that he knows the cause of the all the confusion in VC2.He does not! He too is using liberal theology with the Marchetti error as Pope Francis, Pope Benedict XVI and Cardinal Kaspar.
-Lionel Andrades