Sunday, April 26, 2015

An irrationality is being taught at Catholic schools in Detroit, where Michael Voris is based- and he has no comment.

Whatever be their new theology or theories at Church it is a fact that an irrationality is being taught at Catholic schools in Detroit, where Michael Voris is based- and he has no comment.

However you may interpret the Catechism or Vatican Council II, an objective error, is still being taught in catechism class in schools.
Michael Voris says all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church(See video Do Non Catholics Go to Hell?). This is the new theology which accomodates the Marchetti error i.e the dead now saved in Heaven are visible to us on earth. So those who are saved with the baptism of desire etc refer to visible cases. So they are visible exceptions. They become exceptions, it is reasoned, to the traditional teaching on exclusive salavtion in the Church. This was the error implied in the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 (Outside the Church No Salvation).The new theology accomodates visible exceptions to the dogma. The new theology replaces the traditional exclusivist theology.
Also when Michael Voris says God is not limited to the Sacraments, after the Resurrection of Jesus, he again uses  new theology.It  accomodates Cardinal Marchetti's factual error. This is the dead man walking theology.The dogma says God is limited to the Sacraments.So how would those who wrote the Catechism (1992) know of an exception to the dogma.With the visible-dead theory of course!
Catholic students in catechesis and religioun class are taught this objective error.They affirm the dead man walking and visible theory. This is accepted by Michael Voris.Since he has accepted the new theology based on the irrational premise and inference.

The children are taught :-

1. We human beings can physically see the dead in Heaven.

2. We can know someone in Heaven in the present times who is there without 'faith and baptism'.

This is inferred when the children  are  taught  that the baptism of desire and being saved in inculpable ignorance are exceptions to the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So non Catholics do not have to convert in the present times the children are taught.Why ? SInce 1) we human beings can physically see the dead in Heaven 2) We can know someone in Heaven in the present times who is there without 'faith and baptism' .This person has been saved in inculpable ignorance or with  the baptism of desire.The parents of the children in Detoit assume that this is a Catholic teaching. Their chidren are taught at  schools approved by the Michigan Catholic Association, that all do not need to formally enter the Catholic Church for salvation.Since there are known exceptions- even though these cases (exceptions) are in Heaven and not on earth to be exceptions.


Michael Voris has no comment.School children are taught a factual error ( the dead-saved are visible on earth) and the Staff of Church Militant in Detroit have nothing to say.Catholics are still born for combat?
The children of Staff members, or children of their friends or relatives, are indoctrinated that for Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the baptism of water was not always necessary for salvation.So 'God is not limited to the Sacraments.'(Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257).
Young Catholics have to  infer that for Cardinal Ratzinger, Pope Benedict XVI, this was the reasoning and it is correct :-

1. We human beings including the popes, can physically see the dead in Heaven.(Otherwise how could there be exceptions? We must be physically able to see or know an exception for it to be an exception."Zero cases of something are not exceptions to the dogma " says John Martignoni, the apologist.)

2. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger knew someone in Heaven during the time he was working on the Catechism of the Catholic Church.This person/persons was/were there in Heaven without 'faith and baptism'.This case was personally known to him.So it became an explicit exception, for the cardinal.This is an objective error. Cardinal Ratzinger could not see or know of any exceptions to the centuries old dogma. So when he suggests in CCC 1257 that there are defacto exceptions to the dogma, he infers that he knows defacto cases of the dead-saved, who did not need 'faith and baptism'.

If he referred to only dejure, theoretical cases of someone saved without the baptism of water, he would be theoretically contradicting the dogma. He would be contradicting the necessity of the baptism of water for all.So even if he theoretically postulates that there could be such a case in the present times, how could this hypothetical case, be a defacto exception, to all needing to convert into the Church? 
The cardinal could not physically see any exception in Heaven.Yet the school children have to infer all  this.Even those with a vocation to the religious life have to infer this irrationality. It is common sense that there cannot be exceptions.Yet a young girl with a vocation to the religious life would be rejected in Detroit, if she did not say that there were exceptions, known to her, to the rigorist interpretation of the dogma.

Church is even silent when the children are told that Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani, in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949, inferred that the dead are visible in the present times.

So Marchetti  criticized the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus by Fr.Leonard Feeney. An injustice was done to this priest from Boston and the four Catholic professors who were expelled by Boston College for refusing to say there were exceptions to the dogma.

At Boston College today and at Jesuit schools, children have to accept this irrationality.Also in Detroit, Catholic  children must use an irrational premise and inference, even to interpret Vatican Council II.The religous superiors accept it - and so do the Staff at Church, Serving Catholics.

This should be a conscience issue. How can you condone first class heresy and go to receive the Eucharist at Mass in Detroit? How can you teach a lie to children on such a big scale ?
 If the children attended the Latin or the Novus Ordo Mass the ecclesiology is new.There is a new doctrine( the dead now in Heaven are visible exceptions to the dogma on salvation). They are not taught the traditional exclusivist ecclesiology which was common before 1949. There cannot be an exclusivist ecclesiology associated with Holy Mass any more since something new has been added to the Deposit of the Faith.

An entire archdiocese has gone apostate. Detroit rejects the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is done by inferring  that people in Heaven are visible and known to them in the present times ( 2015) and this is accepted by educated Catholics.
Even if a pope, cardinal, bishop,priest or nun says that we can see the dead in Heaven who are exceptions to the traditional dogma it is a factual error. It is a fact of life that we cannot see or know these cases. So it is irrational to create a theology based upon this factual error.
Yet this is what they teach children all over the USA, they call it magisterial,  and Michael Voris has nothing to say. First the innocent kids presume that persons saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire refer to personally known cases.They are in Heaven without the baptism of water. Then they infer that since these cases are known to them in April 2015, since they are explicit , seen in the flesh cases, they are exceptions to the teaching on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.Ghosts are exceptions! They become exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma usually associated with the Traditional Latin Mass which the political Left, the one world religion people, hate.
The Traditional Latin Mass is criticised because of the old ecclesiology.The Traditional Latin Mass with the old ecclesiology contradicts Vatican Council II interpreted with the visible dead theory.

The school children have to  conclude that Vatican Council II is a break with the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors etc.This is a liberal interpretation and is politically correct and is ' magisterial'.

Michael Voris  and the Staff at Church Militant do not agree or disagree. They have nothing to say. -Lionel Andrades


Michael Voris does not say every one needs to be a card carrying member of the Church for salvation. For him there are exceptions

SSPX must continue to reject Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents interpreted with the false premise and conclusion ? : ChurchMilitant TV still does not respond

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Bishop Arturo Cepeda, Director of the Department of Evangelization, Catechesis and Schools,Detroit has no denial : he agrees an irrationality is taught to Catholic school children 
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School children in the Archdiocese of Detroit have to use an irrationality to interpret Vatican Council II

CMTV and the Archdiocese of Detroit

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SSPX must continue to reject Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents interpreted with the false premise and conclusion : ChurchMilitant TV comment incomplete
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