Saturday, February 14, 2015

Leftist censorship in inter faith and ecumenism dialogue in Canada

Archbishop Paul-André Durocher , President of the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops (CCCB) in June 2014  issued a message on the Ecumenism 1 to mark the 50th anniversary of the Decree on Ecumenisn( Unitatis Redintigratio) of Vatican Council II. In this politically correct message he was not permitted by the political Left in Canada, to interpret Vatican Council in agreement with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He also had to present the Decree (UR ) as contradicting AG 7 and LG 14.Vatican Council II contradicts itself!
Of course all this would not be possible , if he did not use an irrationality in the interpretation of Vatican Council II. This irrationality is not known to Canadian Catholics.Lay Catholics in general do not know theology. They have the documents of Vatican Council II before them. While the bishops interpret these documents using the Marchetti Premise, an irrational premise.Even Catholic apologists are not aware that the Decree on Ecumenism can be interpreted as a break with the rigorist interpretation of the dogma or as supporting the Feeneyite version.
At ecumenical meetings, Canadian organisations funded by the Government,  have to censor, teachings of the Catholic Church. There is the familar  'thought control'.
 
Similarly there are guidelines for Church-Jewish (Left)  Relations. According to some of the study guide papers available at the Canadian inter faith centres, it is considered anti-Judaism and anti-Semitism to state that Jews need to convert( in other words the Catholic Biblical teaching is adequate and has to be changed).
Also members of Messianic Jewish groups like Jews for Jesus cannot call themselves Jews ( they are persecuted in Israel).So these leftist sensibilities, opposed by conservative Jewish groups, have to be respected!
These are the guidelines for  inter faith meetings, set by the Jewish Left Anti Defamation League (ADL).It supports freedom for things evil, blasphemy, pornography, abortion, atheism etc. Christian teachings cannot  freely  be lived and taught.
 
So Archbishop Paul-André Durocher   follows these guidelines set by the Left .He interprets Vatican Council II (UR 3) by assuming that salvation mentioned in the Decree on Ecumenism,refers to known and visible cases in Heaven ( Marchetti Theory).It is inferred that these cases in Heaven are visible on earth ( Cardinal Marchetti Inference).These visible cases (ghosts) mentioned in UR  are explicit  exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. They  are exceptions also to  Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14 which says all ( Christians included) need Catholic Faith for salvation. All Christians need the Sacraments of the Catholic Church and the faith and moral teachings to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.
A Church in Dialogue - long version
Without the Marchetti Inference, Vatican Council II (UR ) does not contradict the 'rigorist interpretation' of the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.However lay Catholics not familiar with theology will not know this.They will assume that the Decree on Ecumenism states Christians are saved in their religion and do not need to convert into the Catholic Church.
 
This is the irrational understanding of the Decree on Ecumenism  by the Society of St.Pius X(SSPX).They criticize Feeneyism, as a theology. Since for them there are known exceptions to Feeneyism. The dead-saved with the baptism of desire etc, are visible, as Marchetti taught. So with the inference of being able to see those saved allegedly without the baptism of water, they reject the traditional interpretation of the dogma, the Feeneyite version. 
This is the doctrine taught by the CCCB's Episcopal Commission for Doctrine.2
It 'helps to identify the theological and pastoral needs of the Church' and it 'serves as the CCCB contact with Canadian theologians and theological bodies'. They all have to interpret Vatican Council II with the approved Marchetti Inference.For  'good relations' with the Jewish Left, this has been approved by the Vatican.
The Vatican has approved a catechesis 3 which focus' on Christ ( Christological) and excludes the neccesity of  membership in the Church for salvation. This new ecclesiology is arose in 1949 with Cardinal Marchetti's irrationality, i.e there is known salvation outside the Church.So all do not need to be members of the Church to avoid Hell. Since there is known salvation outside the Church for the ecumenists, all do not need to enter the Church but only those 'who know' about Jesus and the Church.This is the approved interpretation of Vatican Council II.
-Lionel Andrades
 
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A message from CCCB President Archbishop Paul-André Durocher on the significance of the 50th anniversary of the Decree; (PDF)
 
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Every one needs to be a Catholic : Those who are taught or not taught, those who know or do not know about the Church, will be decided by Jesus.

Every human creature in the present times needs to enter the Catholic Church for salvation! Those who are taught or not taught, those who know or do not know about the Church, will be decided by Jesus.
Cardinal Marchetti in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 wrongly assumed that there was known salvation outside the Church.So for him the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So he came up with this new theory in the Catholic Church. He said every one does not need to convert into the Church for salvation but only 'those who know.'
This was the new Marchetti Theory based on the Marchetti Inference that there were visible and known cases of persons saved without the baptism of water in 1949.
 
The Marchetti Theory that only those who know about the Church need to convert was placed in Vatican Council II by Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Jesuits.The theory is based on an irrationality that of salvation in Heaven being visible on earth.
 
When Vatican Council II (LG 14,AG 7) refers to only those who know we have to remember that this line does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It also does not contradict the passage in Vatican Council II  (LG 14,AG 7) which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.
So I accept Vatican Council II when it states that those who know, need to enter the Church.I leave it to God to decide who knows or is in invincible ignorance at the time of death. It does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus which tells us that all need to be formal members of the Church in the present times.
-Lionel Andrades
 
I received this e-mail yesterday.
Lionel, the following teachings are irrevocable and unchanging truths for all time as posted repeatedly: (Yes)

◦“There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.)
◦“We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)
◦“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441
The following extract from the letter of the Holy Office from 1949 has created much confusion, modernism, fraudulent catechesis and now tragically the rampant heretical denial of the absolute necessity of belonging to the Catholic Church for salvation that is prevalent for over a half of century. (Yes)

The quote below was and is not clear and for that reason more so than at any time in Church history needs a syllabus or pronouncement from the Pope to clarify and provide faithful teaching to all to know, understand and obey.

"Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth. " as taken from the LETTER OF THE HOLY OFFICE From the Headquarters of the Holy Office, Aug. 8, 1949
The problem word in the above quote is the word 'KNOWING' (Yes) This word has been used to open the door to heresy, poor catechesis and outright denial of Church teaching on Salvation. Liberals have used the word to mean that only if you accept or agree with what the Church teaches are you accountable to formally be Catholic otherwise Salvation can be found in endless scenarios outside the Church.

We by law must stop at a red light. See how far you will get if you do not accept or disagree with the law.
This example pales in the necessity of belonging to the Catholic Church for Salvation.

Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance must be absorbed into the following suggestion or one better worded by a Pope or council in order to correct the crisis we live in today
Suggestion: We declare, say, define, and pronounce that every human creature that is taught as Jesus and the Catholic Church commanded in teaching all nations (Every human creature in the present times! Those who are taught or not taught, will be decided by Jesus) that it is absolutely necessary for their salvation and that they must enter and remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church along with the necessity of one Baptism of water for the remission of sins and be obedient and subject to all that is holy and righteous under the Roman Pontiff. No one may plead ignorance, denial or disagreement of these truth upon hearing them(Upon hearing them ? This part is confusing) and attain Salvation.
-Lionel Andrades