Wednesday, December 16, 2015

SSPX priests are using Cushingism instead of Feeneyism as a theology this is a break with the Syllabus of Errors,traditional ecumenism and the old ecclesiology based on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus






Lionel:

Mark , 
Would you agree that traditionalists, including Brother Andre Marie are interpreting Vatican Council II with the theology of Cushingism instead of Feeneyism ?
So Vatican Council II would be a break with the old ecumenism? It would be a break with the Syllabus of Errors ?
It would be a break with the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma?
Of course it would be saying that not all Jews in the present times need to formally convert into the Church?

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Musings of a Pertinacious Papist
Anonymous

said...
Personally,I wish the Vatican would allow FSSP & ICKSP a bishop ordained & consecrated in the pre-June 1968 rite of holy orders to ordain their priest's and consecrate a priest from each group in pre-June 1968 rite of holy orders.(as long as said priest is ordained by valid bishop)Bishop Rifan from Brazil would be a perfect bishop to ordain and consecrate valid bishop's.
There are roughly 50 or so bishop's ordained/consecrated before July 1968 still living.Will you all please pray for this to happen?I still don't understand why they have modern bishop's ordaining traditional priest's.


There are roughly 50 or so bishop's ordained/consecrated before July 1968 still living.Will you all please pray for this to happen?I still don't understand why they have modern bishop's ordaining traditional priest's. 


Lionel:
Would you agree that those priests like the present SSPX priests are using Cushingism instead of Feeneyism as a theology ? This is a break with Tradition?
It is a break with the Syllabus of Errors, it is a break with the traditional concept of ecumenism ? And of course it is a break with the old ecclesiology based on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus?

http://pblosser.blogspot.it/2015/12/tradition-and-future-of-catholicism.html




Unknown said... 
Wait no more, Mr. B. Catechism
#841 which is verbatim from Vat 2 states:

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. 
"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

Lionel:
Yes the place of salvation also includes Muslims and Jews and they need to formally enter the Church for salvation, they 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation.

Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. -Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.

So according to Vatican Council II all Muslims need to convert into the Church to avoid the fires of Hell and so do Jews.
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Cindy Wooden would not know of any exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or Vatican Council II 

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/cindy-wooden-cannot-know-of-any.html


Catholics are 'the new people of God ','the Church is the new people of God', the new Chosen People, the Elect, outside of which there is no salvation -Nostra Aetate 4, Vatican Council II 
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/catholics-are-new-people-of-god-church.html

 http://thatthebonesyouhavecrushedmaythrill.blogspot.it/2015/12/can-catholic-be-righteous-in-sight-of.html

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