So far out

The Federation International Una Voce (FIUV) does not comment on the theology of Gavin D'Costa, the Catholic professor of theology at the University of Bristol. Gavin considers Vatican Council II and especially Nostra Aetate 2, an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The promotional video has once again been placed on the university  website with false propaganda on the Catholic Church and what it teaches. The FIUV has nothing to say, since it is promoting the same liberal theology.The FIUV and the University of Bristol's theology is based on hypothetical cases being visible in 2015.So both are saying that the Church is not necessary for salvation and all non Catholics are not on the way to Hell according to Vatican Council II. For FIUV and the University of Bristol ( and Oxford University where FIUV's Joseph Shaw teaches) NA 2, LG 16, LG 8 etc refer to explicit, seen in the flesh cases. They are inferred to be explicit exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to the centuries old 'rigorist interpretation' of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is also the position of Cardinal Vincent Nicols, the Catholic Archbishop of Westminister who approves the mandatum to teach theology, for D'Costa and Shaw,both modernists. 

 For me it is different. I attend the Traditional Latin Mass and the Novus Ordo Mass in Rome. I affirm the same centuries old ecclesiology of the Traditional Latin Mass, as before the Council of Trent.This is not the ecclesiology of the Latin Mass Societies all over the world today, approved by the Vatican.

Joseph Shaw may be a traditionalist but he is using the same liberal theology as the Letter of the Holy Office 1949, which has come in a big way into Vatican Council II.

So much of the confusion and liberal thinking of Vatican Council II comes from the unchecked error of the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office 1949 issued from Rome  to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney.

 When I read the text of Vatican Council II, though,  I find the Council traditional , with the old ecclesiology,since I avoid the wrong inferences. I do not assume invisible, theoretical cases are objective and visible.

 Yet this was the 'trick'  at Vatican Council II.Liberals, Masons and others discerned the error and were aware that the majority of Catholics, were in ignorance as to what it was.Even Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was not aware of it.Then they maintained the excommunication of Fr. Leonard Feeney even during Vatican Council II as if the priest was teaching something new and it was wrong.The conservatives at Vatican Council II must have been on the defensive.

Today there are so many liberals who are aware of the error  and are getting away with it since other Catholics  do have the courage to point it out. They do not want to lose their position  as theology professors etc.

 Then the error is being maintained politically by the Jewish Left, with threats of using anti-Semitic, racist and  proselytism laws.Even rectors at Pontifical universities  and Vatican officials are allowing the error to persist.They say this is a 'delicate issue' and so they do not want to comment.So with their silence, they promote the Cushingism theology which is based on a lie.

The same lie will be taught by Joseph Shaw  at Oxford University. The same  lie  will be the official policy of the Latin Mass Society of England.It will be promoted by the FIUV. They have expressed it recently in a statement on the Revised Good Friday Prayer for the Conversion of the Jews.Then they are not expected to comment on the theology of the University of Bristol video.

The enemies of the Church have gone so far that now they paralyse the Catholic ecclesiastical hierarchy and Catholics in general.Catholics are expected to proclaim Jesus as not being necessary for the  salvation of the Jews. This is what the English bishops want.While the FIUV agrees on the necessity of Jesus for salvation, they will not affirm the necessity  of formal entry into the Catholic Church for salvation.

The English bishops are asking the pope now  to not even proclaim Jesus as being necessary, for the salvation of Jews and other non Catholics, and the liberal pope will probably agree to it.So far out have we come.

-Lionel Andrades

FIUV clarification needed

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/fiuv-clarification-needed.html