Saturday, October 10, 2015

It all began with the Baltimore Catechism and was not checked by the Magisterium in 1949, the confusion and heresy was approved with irrational interpretations of Vatican Council II being a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

Traditionalists adhere to the Baltimore Catechism says Fr. Longenecker. He does not mention that traditionalists, sedevacantists and liberals adhere to the Baltimore Catechism, including the error in the Baltimore Catechism.
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With the same confusion and error they all interpret Vatican Council II. The traditionalists and sedevacantists reject the conclusion while the liberals accept it. Fr. Longenecker also interprets Vatican Council II with the same error.
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The Baltimore Catechism says there are three baptisms, water, blood and desire.It infers that the baptism of desire and blood include( or excludes) the baptism of water and these cases are known .This is confusion. Since these cases are invisible for us.Why were they placed in the Baltimore Catechism in the section on the necessity of the baptism of water for all. They would have to be seen and known to be relevant to all needing the baptism of water or there being an exception .
In this way it was inferred that these cases of the  baptism of desire and baptism of blood, were explicit like the baptism of water and so were exceptions to all needing the baptism of water. In other words they were exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus which says all need to be formal members of the Church.
Then in the Catechism of Pope Pius XII which followed, there was the same confusion. Baptism of desire and baptism of blood were placed in the section on the baptism of water.
Then in 1949 the Letter of the Holy Office to the Archdiocese  of Boston assumed that the baptism of desire and baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance were exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma. The Letter criticised Fr. Leonard Feeney and the St. Benedict Center for not accepting the baptism of desire etc as exceptions.So now the error had become official. They accepted the confusion in the Baltimore Catechism.
Then along with orthodox passages in Vatican Council II which supported the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus , saying all need 'faith and baptism' for salvation (AG 7, LG 14) there were references to the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance. In other words they are exceptions!
So the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, defined by three Church Councils has been discarded in the Church since there are 'known' exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II.This was Cushingism supported by the Magisterium of the Church.Rome was supporting the liberal Jesuit theologians in Boston, knowingly or unknowingly.
It is also suggested by the contemporary  Magisterium that LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc also refer to known baptisms without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.This is a break with the pre-1808 Magisterium.
It all began with the Baltimore Catechism, not checked by the Magisterium in 1949 and the confusion and heresy was approved with the irrational interpretations of Vatican Council II .So Vatican Council II becomes a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
However if we intepret LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc as being invisible instead of visible we return back to the old ecclesiology.It is as  simple as that since we now know the root cause of the problem and can correct it.
-Lionel Andrades


Baltimore Catechism made an empirical mistake : there can only be one known baptism for us human beings
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/08/baltimore-catechism-made-empirical.html
Can the Athanasius Creed be recited in Church today ? Yes!
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/08/can-athanasius-creed-be-recited-in.html
'You can fool all of the people most of the time but not all of them all the time' http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/08/you-can-fool-all-of-people-most-of-time.html
Implicit desire and martyrdom being baptisms and explicit like the baptism of water is an American theory which originated in Baltimore http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/08/message-incomplete-that-baptism-of.html
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http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/10/06/is-catholicism-about-to-break-into-three/

1 comment:

Introibo Ad Altare Dei said...

Sorry, Lionel. The Roman Martyrology came WAY before the Baltimore Catechism and gives the names of three saints saved by BOB without BOW--or they wouldn't have died as catechumens had they received BOW!!
Why can't your pre-V2 "popes" guided by the Holy Ghost correct this "error"? You can see it and JP2, Benedict 16, and Francis can't see it? Are they irrational? ( If so, they can't be pope). If not , are they heretical? (If so, they can't be pope). Are they stupid--men with theological doctorates and advanced degrees can't see it but you can? Where's the Holy Ghost? He can't guide them?