Saturday, October 10, 2015

Holy Trinity Seminary does not clarify if they refer to Vatican Council II in which LG 16, LG 8 is visible or invisible


from the website of the sedevacantist Most Holy Trinity Seminary, Florida, USA.
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Most Holy Trinity Seminary was founded in 1995 in order to provide priestly training for young men who thoroughly reject Vatican II,(in which LG 16, LG 8 etc refer to explicit cases instead of invisible cases.For me it is Vatican Council II in which LG 16, LG 8 refer to invisible cases.Let me qualify this at the outset.) its reforms, and the Modernist hierarchy which promulgates them.(the modernism comes from assuming LG 16, LG 8 are visible instead of visible) This position is in contrast to the seminaries of traditionalist groups that operate with the approval of the Modernist hierarchy, or who seek this approval.( they also assume LG 16, LG 8 are visible instead of invisible. So Vatican Council II ( with the irrationality) becomes a break with Tradition)

The Seminary trains priests according to pre-Vatican II standards.( but they also accept the Baltimore Catechism and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 with the same irrationality) Its rule, discipline, spiritual formation, and academic curriculum imitate faithfully those which were in effect in seminaries before the Second Vatican Council.( before 1808 there were no known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. For the seminary the baptism of desire and baptism of blood are exceptions. This is an innovation) By training priests in this manner, the seminary hopes to contribute to the solution to the problem of the nearly universal desintegration of Catholic faith, morals, discipline, and liturgy  which the Second Vatican Council has caused.(When Vatican Council II is referred to it needs to be qualified that this is Vatican Council II in which LG 16, LG 8 etc are invisible instead of visible.For me LG 16, LG 8 etc is invisible so Vatican Council II would not be a break with the pre-1808 ecclesiology in the Catholic Church).

The seminary sees that the only solution to the problem of Vatican II( in which LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc are visible and known in personal cases.This is irrational.It is also Magisterial.), however, is to condemn it as a false council( it would be a false interpretation of the Council, I agree. If I would use the irrational premise I too would get a non traditional conclusion)  which was dominated by heretics, and to discard and ignore its decrees and enactments. Consequently, the Seminary does not seek to be recognized by the heretical hierarchy which promulgates Vatican II,(also with the same irrational premise i.e LG 16 etc are visible instead of invisible and so is a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the old ecclesiology which the seminary follows by excluding Vatican Council II)  nor does it seek to work with the Novus Ordo clergy, as if in a single church or religion.( since they too are using the same irrational premise but accept Vatican Council II with the same non traditional conclusion.)

The Seminary therefore repudiates the idea of the Motu Proprio Mass, or that of a fraternity of priests which has received permission or seeks permission from the Novus Ordo hierarchy to function in communion with the Modernist heretics.

The Catholic Church, in the outlook of the Seminary, will not be cured of its current problems until the hierarchical sees, particularly the papacy, are once again occupied by Catholics. For as long as Modernist heretics possess the mere appearance of authority which they now possess, the problem of Vatican II (with LG 16 visible instead of invisible) will continue. In the meantime the Seminary, as well as the priests who emanate from it, shall abhor even the suggestion of an official recognition from the Novus Ordo hierarchy(which interprets Vatican Council II irrationally like the seminary), or of a compromise with the Modernists, whom St. Pius X called the “most pernicious of all the enemies of the Church,” who are striving “utterly to subvert the very Kingdom of Christ.”


http://www.mostholytrinityseminary.org/home.html



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An innovation was made in the Baltimore Catechism ,accepted in the Catechism of Pope Pius XII became Magisterial in 1949 at Boston and was included in Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/an-innovation-was-made-in-baltimore.html

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